MoMA's new admission price $20???

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乒乓, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

It used terms like "postwar japan" and "allied forces occupation" a lot.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen the exhibit but i wonder if it's not a move towards deemphasizing the impact of the united states on post-war japan. not that these pieces of art wouldn't reflect the war and the atomic attack but that they reflect other things that aren't dictated solely by the often overwhelming american projection. it's hard for me to imagine tho that anyone attending MOMA would be unaware of hiroshima and nagasaki.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

i just mention this bc i've seen exhibits on post-war vietnam that were entirely about american crimes and went so far in the other direction that you didn't learn anything about vietnam that wasn't actually about the united states.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah but you can't show a bunch of surrealist paintings of people's faces melting off and piles of dead mutant fish and "deemphasize the impact of the United States" at the same time

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

anyway I also think you're overestimating the MoMA crowd, it's disproportionately tourists

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

when i used to go to the free friday admissions it was mostly students

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

well yeah at that time probably. I think you're right that the NYU etc kids going there are all thinking about hiroshima when they see it whether or not the text tells them to.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

they've shown about 70 films in the 'sidebar' for this series, many of which are explicit on US/bombs etc.

I haven't seen the gallery exhibit cuz I fucking hate crowds, and it's always crowded.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

I've seen the show twice and though I get your point, I think the artwork's placards make it pretty clear that this is reactionary work and that the historical importance of WWII and Hiroshima and Nagasaki IS a given.
But I really liked the artwork and it was all totally new to me so maybe I just wasn't looking for any other agenda.

Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 05:26 (eleven years ago) link

as someone who likes to cruise around with headphones on & not necessarily read the text is this a good exhibition, y/n

schlump, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 05:36 (eleven years ago) link

yes the art is good

Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

I only saw the top floor, and I think there was also stuff on the fifth floor, yes? I was in kind of a hurry. Anyway I liked the art, and it was kind of refreshing since, at least until the recent Yayoi Kusama exhibition at the Whitney, a casual art fan like myself could kind of get the impression that Japanese art went straight from Hokusai-type prints to cartoony stuff like Murakami.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

so Matisse Cut-Outs is running 24hrs this weekend, which means in my zombified state i might make it at 2a.m., waving my membership card.

$12 afterhrs for nonmembers (still need timed tix)

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

so you still need a timed ticket for like 4 in the morning...

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

that's my understanding, for nonmembers

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 February 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

http://news.artnet.com/art-world/how-will-momas-bjork-debacle-impact-klaus-biesenbach-279582

As recounted by anonymous sources, Biesenbach interrupted Abramović's precisely-timed 736-hour-and-30-minute marathon action in order to bask in some of the artist's accumulated megawatt company. Scheduled to endure the performer's gaze for a quarter of an hour, the curator lasted just eight minutes.

After vacating the chair, applause followed; but it was obvious from Abramović's expression that something had gone wrong. The problem: Biesenbach had cut the performance short by throwing off its strict time signature. As relayed to artnet News, Abramović was livid.

According to Artforum's Linda Yablonsky, things quickly went from bad to mortifying at Abramović's celebratory dinner. Writing in the “Scene & Herd" column, Yablonsky described the excruciating series of events that followed as “the tippling Biesenbach took the podium" to kick off of the evening:

“He didn't thank anyone. Instead he used the moment to make public his two-decade-long unrequited love for Abramović. ‘Look at me, Marina,' he began. ‘Listen to me, Marina,' he went on. ‘Why don't you look at me? You know,' he then said to the guests, tossing aside his prepared remarks, ‘she can't see anyone without her glasses,' thereby negating the experience of all those sitters who thought she was paying special attention to them. This brought loud murmurs… Recalling how he had fallen in love with Abramović, twenty years his senior, at first sight, he said that he believed she had fallen in love with him, too. ‘Biggest mistake of my career,' he said.”

Aghast at the spectacle, Yablonsky added her own lapidary rejoinder. “Though clearly, not bigger than this one," she wrote, channeling the gathering's dazed chagrin.

drash, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 11:41 (nine years ago) link

big lolz there

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link

A MoMA curator who hangs around with celebrities? Well I never!

badg, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link

a curator who subverts the message of a major artist's retrospective in the closing party by pointing out that she couldn't see anybody anyway and then avowing his love is big lolz

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

anything that takes that con job down a peg is to be cheered

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

this is the best

nose, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

How, for example, does one begin to explain the institutional relevance of the band Kraftwerk's eight-gig show “Retrospective 12345678" staged inside the museum's atrium in 2012? How, one might ask, do you account for the 2013 spectacle of actress Tilda Swinton sleeping inside a glass box at MoMA—

Presumably the same criticism would apply to the Tate Modern who also ran Retrospective 12345678 to near unanimous five star reviews and the Serpentine Gallery who originally did the Swinton piece.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

yeah the linked article goes into that

Number None, Thursday, 26 March 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

@NickPinkerton
Anyone got any good tips on tonight's mentally-ill hobo fights at MoMA?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 May 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

apparently that was real (far from unheard of at the theaters there), and might've happened at a Straub-Huillet film.

https://twitter.com/NickPinkerton/status/729063029615284226

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 May 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

Lol, tradition

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 12:42 (seven years ago) link


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