I want to be Elliott Gould (when he wasn't crap)

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And the old guy with the beard was SO annoying! Sterling Hayden you say? A pox on him and his offspring!

― Dan I., Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

(but if I watch it again and try to see the intent in the non-acting maybe I'll see what you're talking about. cause it was a pretty movie, I remember thinking that if I just turned the sound off completely I could maybe pretend that it was a good movie instead of bullshit at all times.)

― Dan I., Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:22 (twenty years ago) link

i think the only relentlessly banal bon mot = "that's ok with me" which PM says abt 2348756891723465 times

roger wade is a veritable fount of pompous bullshit, but then he's a bad writer and a drunk, and that's what they're like (actually i've never met one)

otherwise the only bit of really spare business is the cat stuff at the start — which i like — and the malibu gatekeeper who does moviestar impressions — which i also like

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

i think part of the point is that everyone marlowe encounters is a TOTAL fake — which is pretty true to the books, oddly enough, given that marlowe has become totally a non-chandler character, plus the plot is importantly changed (supposedly cz altman got bored and couldn't be bothered finishing the book THOUGH I COMPLETELY DON'T BELIEVE THIS)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

But the naked gangsters!

― Dan I., Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

marty augustine likes capricious power-trips, they keep people guessing — hugh hefner as a pathological gangster-swinger, this is such a funny-terrifying idea — esp.with that poor girl in her nose-reconstruction bandage!!

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

the half-mumbled, borderline-incomprehensible overlapping dialogue was altman's big innovation (aside from the sophisticated use of zooming and tracking in deep focus shots)..it sort of turns hawks (who also made a marlowe movie!) inside-out, instead of the dilogue overlapping in these sophisticated snappy rhythms with great clarity, it's submerged and arrrythmic. i'd say it only goes so far, and in other films the dialogue seems pointlessly empty and flat (almost like bad improvisations) as if just the gesture was enough. but i like it a lot in "the long goodbye."

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 16 August 2003 06:12 (twenty years ago) link

the thing about altman is that i find the revisionist quality of his plots in this period ultimately not v. rewarding...trite. it isn't as thoroughly conceived/achieved as the half-revisionist fantasies of ford, boetticher, hawks, etc. (his forebears) so seems a bit like an adolescent provocation. I usually don't realize this until after the picture is over, or as it's winding down. "McCabe & Mrs Miller" is the most obvious example. the surface attractions are so inventive that it keeps you sufficiently distracted.

the best parts of "Long Goodbye" for me are the multiple versions of the title tune, sung and performed in every manner imaginable (toward the end, by a mariachi band!). again, a facile thing--it isn't funny the second time, but it's awesome the first time.

― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 16 August 2003 06:17 (twenty years ago) link

i woke up with this is in my head: "if you try your luck you could be donald DUUUUCK!! hooray for ho-ollywood"

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

Great Elliot Gould moment - in 1979 war flop bag'o'stars w/nice Schifrin s'track Escape To Athena, EG is led for first time into Greek PoW camp. He passes completely uncredited William Holden and says, "You're still here?!"

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 16 August 2003 10:49 (twenty years ago) link

i loved this as a kid, hell 70s Disney live action movies then were fab.
http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/48711.1020.A.jpg

― H (Heruy), Saturday, 16 August 2003 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

Saw that one in the theaters. Ah, memories.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 August 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

"their main goal is swiping soul"?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 17 August 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

I saw California Split last night!

Best actor ever! Hands down!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

... you'd have to marry Barbra Streisand tho - and, ask yourself this, do you really wanna do that?

― Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

elliott gould was NEVER crap.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i wouldn't kick her money out of bed.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

It certainly didn't harm Elliott's career

― Den Dadaismus in seinem Lauf hält weder Ochs noch Esel auf... (Dada), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

elliott gould was NEVER crap.

I think I agree with you!

Gould, being who he is, would applaud and forgive my change of mind!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I be Elliott Gould now??? PLEASE!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Saw that one in the theaters. Ah, memories.

How many times and in just how many theatres did you see it Ned?

― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Elliott Gould was pretty embarassing in The Big Hit. Or at least embarassed.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

btw, if you haven't seen The Big Hit, see it now. loopy.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Just sell your soul to Bill Cosby and you can be!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Elliott Gould plays the same slightly bemused, slightly offended, somewhat laconic dude in every goddamn picture ever. He may be miscast in roles, he may pick shitty scripts from time to time, he may be distracting, but it's impossible to say he's crap, because you either have to discount everything he's ever done or say that he's great in everything.

If this is debatable, please do not let me know.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

(no one tell girolamo that it's very debatable)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread keeps reminding me of that Simpsons where the teenaged Barney is told "I wouldn't go to the prom with you if you were ELLIOTT GOULD!"

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw Gould outside Roseland a few years ago, looking very confused in the midst of a pre-concert Hole crowd.

My best friend's look and style so recalls EG in Long Goodbye that I occasionally call him MARLBORO!

>the loungy guy who plays terry lennox

Former Yankee pitcher (and author of Ball Four) Jim Bouton.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

GOULD!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

ELLIOTT GOULD!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

GOULD!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

WHAT A WOOKIE!

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

GOULD RUSH!

THERE'S GOULD IN THEM THERE HILLS!

GOULDFINGER!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

GOULD!
Always believe in your soul
You’ve got the power to know
You’re indestructable
Always believe in,because you are
GOULD!
Glad that you’re bound to return
There’s something I could have learned
You’re indestructable,always believe in

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

adam, you're solid gould

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

GOULDS (We're All)...

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 23 November 2004 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I was TOTALLY WRONG about something on this thread!!!!!

AND IT WAS THIS:

He even makes Donald Sutherland (a pretty decent actor, but no icon)

Sutherland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

How good is LITTLE MURDERS??? (thanks milton)

SO good.

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't stand Donald Sutherland or Elliot Gould, but at least Sutherland was in a good film or too (and Kiefer was in Freeway and uh nothing else, but YEAH Freeway.) What a crappy pair of actors.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

sutherland = hotchie motchie. they just don't make em like that anymore.

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

sutherland can either be icky or TOTALLY HOTTT

"... you'd have to marry Barbra Streisand tho - and, ask yourself this, do you really wanna do that? "

YESSS!!!!!

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 23 June 2005 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

HOTCHIE MOTCHIE

― a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 June 2005 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Gould. And I even, once, liked Cosby.

That Max Devlin thing looks awful, though.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 23 June 2005 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.robinsonarchive.com/images/photolarge/Sutherland02.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 23 June 2005 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link

sutherland = brilliant. aside from naming his son kiefer, anyway

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread needs more Gould & Sutherland photos

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

http://sfstory.free.fr/images/Invasiondesprofanateurs78/09.jpg

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.siegelproductions.ca/images/Sutherlandgoodhoriz.jpg

― jody l'anti-vierge (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2001-12-06/movie_repfeature-1.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 23 June 2005 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link

& Alan Arkin as Lieutenant Practice from Little Murders:

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/diatribe/images/2004/jun4/littlemurdersmilkglass.jpg

― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 23 June 2005 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

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Gould, Robert Blake and Allen Garfield might be the schlubbiest cast I've ever heard of.

― Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Thursday, 5 March 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

In a one-to-one swap of Blake for Ned Beatty, Nashville wins that round.

― clemenza, Thursday, 5 March 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

the cast is great, but the premise (virtuous vice cops busting junkies, prostitutes, hippies etc.) is very reactionary/wtf

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

“Harry And Walter...” is a real folly but I enjoyed it. Exquisite production design, great cast and I belly laughed a few times so it gets love. Gould and Caan are fun together and on their own.

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 30 May 2021 08:21 (two years ago) link

Elliot Gould is on cameo and that makes me sad.

― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 May 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

Oh wow that *is* sad. Ass-backwards time we’re living in.

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 30 May 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

gould is a legend and v hottt

― plax (ico), Sunday, 30 May 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

i feel like this last point is under appreciated

― plax (ico), Sunday, 30 May 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

Not by me!

― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Sunday, 30 May 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

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