What happened to LUSH?

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I had fun flirting with Miki at a show once. She was sweet.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They did some amazing songs in their early days for sure. I've always been in love with Miki and Emma just for the vocals on Spooky and all the different stuff that was on Gala. Chris was a great drummer too..

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
I was never a huge Lush fan, but good grief I heard 'For Love' for the first time in years last night and now it sounds like the best song in the world.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

:-)

But as the others upthread note, "De Luxe" = winner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

man, i used to be nuts about that song. i think that was one of the first CDs i ever bought!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Incidentally, I came across Emma from Lush on Friendster once. She didn't say "I am Emma from Lush" but it was her and it was funny.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Re-reading this thread, I have the urge to pick up some of their records again.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think Lush are back.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

did she talk about when she auctioned off her bed for charity?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oi, sarky. (x-post)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I wasn't being!

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

what do you mean they're back? back in style or planning to play again?

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sorry - the former.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 17:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I saw Lush quite a few times in the early 90’s. On one particular night they were playing at the trashy Prince club in downtown Los Angeles called Glam Slam. This was the summer of 1994 and they had this unknown band open for them called Weezer. After Weezer played there was this unusual long break in-between bands. I was dating this girl, talking to her and her friends and was telling them about this brand new band called Oasis. If I remember correctly only two singles were out by Oasis at this time and told them to remember their name because they are going to be something special. Finally after a long break they came out on stage and said that Lush’s U-haul broke down, on their way down from San Francisco, and won’t be making it that night. So we came back the next night and got to see Weezer again.

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I still think Split is an incredible album - I'll never get sick of it.

vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Monday, 9 May 2005 03:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If I ever got really stressed out from work or whatever, this was my solution: queue up Spooky (followed by MBV's Loveless), run a bubble bath, pour a glass of wine and light a spliff, read New Yorker in bath, always worked a charm.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Teeny truly has great insight!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If I ever got really stressed out from work or whatever, this was my solution: queue up Spooky (followed by MBV's Loveless), run a bubble bath, pour a glass of wine and light a spliff, read New Yorker in bath, always worked a charm.

Replace Spooky and Loveless with At War with Satan and What's THIS for...!, replace bubble bath and glass of wine with 40 oz of Crazy Horse and eliminate the reading material entirely and you have my solution.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 May 2005 13:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Last night I heard a couple tracks from "Spooky", and I was surprised at how uninteresting they sounded. That's not at all how I remember them. I think a teenage crush on Miki may have coloured my original feelings towards their music. They were pretty good the one time I saw them though.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 03:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

what should I think about Sing Sing? I see they have another record out.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ah sir, I think this thread will give you some good guidance.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Here's another vote for "For Love" for Lush's best EVER song. What's wrong with you people?

daavid (daavid), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Listening to Spooky today, 3 times over. I expect this note to disappear, but if anyone else wants to chime in with praise for this album, it'd make me smile.

paulhw, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's a winner still. But I haven't listened to it in a bit -- should dig it out here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Gala is all I need from this band and I love it.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm a big fan of "Nothing Natural" myself.

Trayce, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd like to chime in, really. I just never liked Spooky as much as Gala. The songs aren't as hooky, the production is weird. I always try to give it another spin and it's just flat. Sorry.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

these records sorely need remastering, but they are still fantastic.

a friend has fond memories of hanging out with Lush on their initial US tour in SF, including taking acid with them and hanging out for a couple days. he said they were good folks of the highest caliber.

if you want a new-school Lush fix, check out the first track on the forthcoming Ulrich Schnauss album Goodbye, as it's a pitch-perfect homage/copy.

BATTAGS, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

I wore my LUSHAPALOOZA shirt the other day, was feeling particularly LOLWTF.

wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

I only saw Lush play once - at the Red Parrot (now Metropolis) in Northbridge, Perth, Western Australia. This was early 1990s. I was so hyped - my friends told me (later) that they thought I was going to faint. Being sandwiched down the front may have had something to do with this too. But when they came out and powered into 'Superblast!' with the lighting EXACTLY like the video...I thought I was in heaven.

Going back to listening to 'Astronaut' now.

SeekAltRoute, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

I saw that same tour!1992 I think it was. (Dec?). I saw them at the Palace in Melbourne and they were awesome and didn't say a word all set and the lightshow was v impressive.

Then some cock shouted "Miki, sharrrs yer tits!". She looked up, glared into the gloom, snapped "get fucked, cunt", and then they kicked into "Babytalk" as their final song, which KICKED ARSE.

Trayce, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yes, I'm sure that you're right about the date - I remember thinking that it was the best birthday present ever (at the time) and I'm a Sag.

As for best song, I'm on the 'Nothing Natural' bandwagon too. For the killer bass line, the patented Robin Guthrie blast of white noise at the end of each verse, for the gal's vox and the panning across the speakers during the outro.

Perfect when played (very) loud.

SeekAltRoute, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

DESIRE LINES

oh man...

pisces, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 03:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

I found Lovelife for a dollar the other day, it's pretty rad. Very chipper for what appears to be a concept album about breaking up.

Jeff Treppel, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've reintroduced Spooky into my rotation in the last month or so. Somehow, before, my attention had always drifted off by the time the album reached "Monochrome." So I was listening on shuffle the other day and that song came up and absolutely wiped me out; the choruses in particular and the bridge at about 2:15 are Lush at their melancholy best.

I'm really happy about my poor listening habits way back when, because now I get a new favorite song without having to buy another record. It's the small victories.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

spooky is the only lush disc i've never heard in full. i don't know why people are so keen to work with robin guthrie as a producer when he clearly isn't terribly good at it.

electricsound, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

"For Love" > "Sweetness and Light"

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hmmm ... I've never been one to really pay too much attention to production, but I don't notice any thing overtly bad about Spooky. I mean, it sounds pretty damn good to my ears.

A quick scan looks like all their records were produced by him, except for Lovelife.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

I miss Lush.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Early singles are obviously terrific, but Split is easily their best full-length - and one of my favorite records period.

Pillbox, Friday, 25 January 2008 03:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

(to elaborate on that) Split straddles the middle ground between Spooky and Lovelife and combines the strengths of both: buzzy power-pop & Cocteau/shoegaze dreaminess, whereas the other two LPs lean a bit too far in either direction.

Pillbox, Friday, 25 January 2008 03:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

ah but Split transcends the sum of its parts no? I'm with you in saying its one of my favourite records ever.

Thomas, Friday, 25 January 2008 10:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

pillbox sort of otm, but to me those slow tracks in the last 2/3rds of split kind of kill its momentum. "lovelife" is my favorite lush song, though, and "kiss chase" might be #2

this was my favorite band in high school. it's been too long. those guitars + miki and emma's voices together was such a rush..

winston, Saturday, 26 January 2008 02:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

Winston, I'll give you "Never-Never" on you observation (though I still really like that song, I can see how it would drag for others), but if you're referring to "Desire Lines" or "When I Die," you're nuts.

Pillbox, Saturday, 26 January 2008 22:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

oh no i loooove "when i die"! "desire lines" i would probably be more ok with if it didn't follow "lovelife" (let alone the previous 4 tracks)

winston, Sunday, 27 January 2008 00:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

You know, my mate put on "Spooky" one evening and I really liked it until I found out it was the same band that recorded "Single Girl".

Bodrick III, Sunday, 27 January 2008 12:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

you're weird

winston, Monday, 28 January 2008 00:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

At some shows during Lollapalooza '92, Miki and Emma would join Ministry onstage when they played "Supernaut". I always thought that was pretty cool. I can't imagine the boys from the Jesus and Mary Chain doing the same thing.

j-rock, Monday, 28 January 2008 02:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

The latest from Miki

Jack Burton, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 09:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thanks for that, Jack.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 13:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

So what really happened with Phil that caused him to up and quit?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 04:40 (two months ago) Permalink

He's in the Jesus And Mary Chain now, by the way:

"Damage and Joy is out March 24 via ADA/Warner Music. It follows the band’s 1998 LP Munki. The new album was recorded with producer Youth. It features contributions from the band’s touring drummer Brian Young, ex-Lush bassist Phil King, and Youth on bass. They’ve so far put out “Always Sad” and “Amputation” from the album."

StanM, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:52 (two months ago) Permalink

He's been playing with JAMC for years.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

ah, ok - didn't know, sorry :(

StanM, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah he completed those sessions before he left for the reunion, IIRC.

Should note that the two Thoughtforms fanzines that were put out last year essentially act as the perfect complement to the box set, being de facto liner notes for it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

it's not clear at all but I got the feeling he maybe wanted to spend more time with his family. but there was some weird twitter back and forth with mickie where he insinuated she was unpleasant to him or had said nasty things about him.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:07 (two months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/berenyi_miki/status/803268520586989569

Miki Berenyi‏ @berenyi_miki 28 Nov 2016
@londonphilking I admit it, I was angry. You dumped us in the shit Phil, refused to play the show. Didn't have to be this way.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 17 March 2017 23:17 (two months ago) Permalink

and his posting that ('classy') was in response to her saying "you might have noticed Phil’s got shorter, and blonder, and better at playing the bass…sorry!" Seems innocuous unlesss she was giving him shit the entire tour or something. dunno.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:19 (two months ago) Permalink

it's too bad because there was an interview with her and emma that came out in tape-op that was done before that happened, but published well after phil had quit, and they were pretty obviously talking about recording more and how great it was. and since he quit, they've said they are done.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:20 (two months ago) Permalink


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