If only she'd done it during the spoken bridge of "Graffiti Limbo" it might've worked.
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, in the same vein as buzza's link:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-05-28/features/9202170604_1_blackface-bart-bull-minstrelsy
choice quotes:
At the recent South by Southwest music conference in Austin, Texas, for example, she gave a rambling keynote address in which she compared the black funk-rock group Fishbone to the blackface minstrels of 100 years ago. Shocked now concedes, "My performance could be called into question."..."I felt that this image (a blackface cover) was so powerful, so potent, that the controversy would swallow up the music. I would have been just like a tar baby - controversy would just stick to me."
...
"I felt that this image (a blackface cover) was so powerful, so potent, that the controversy would swallow up the music. I would have been just like a tar baby - controversy would just stick to me."
― a sentimental knife (reddening), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
aaaand the mccabe's show is cancelled.
― my cat is an eliane radigue (get bent), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
wtf
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/19/1363691341607/Michelle-Shocked-in-2005-010.jpg
http://blog.chron.com/askacat/files/legacy/hatcat.JPG
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe it's actually Howard Devoto.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
i read all his quotes with matt pinfield's voice regardless. you know you did it too.
*nods shamefully*
― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
The pure products of Americago crazy
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like pretty much the entire tour has been called off:
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/garchik/article/Shocked-shows-canceled-in-wake-of-anti-gay-tirade-4367370.php
also note: "Cheryl Renee, who was said to have been Shocked's PR person, responded to an e-mail from The Chronicle saying that as of Feb. 25, "I am no longer working with Michelle Shocked. I cannot comment on her behalf and was not present at Yoshi's. ... I personally do not support the sentiment of what Michelle is being accused of saying."
what's it like to work for someone like this who starts to go off the rails?
― akm, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
she's claiming on twitter that she isn't against gay marriage or abortion as well. I think she's having a mental breakdown.
― akm, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
Holy mackerel. This all comes as quite a shock.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
seen shared:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/32624_10200305192405425_1720273674_n.jpg
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
my take: she's mentally ill AND a bigot, and the bigotry is no doubt fueled by the illness, although it must be said that not all mentally ill people are bigots, and mental illness does not excuse bigotry or assholish behavior. also: yes, she's a closeted queer (at least bisexual), and it seems like the is-she-or-isn't-she thing has always been a thorn in her side, based on interviews going way back, and judging from her problems with act up as "outers." to me, her ambiguity is more than bowie-ish mystique-building, it veers close to "don't ask don't tell" territory.
― my cat is an eliane radigue (get bent), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.cosmik.com/aa-septemberoctober05/reviews/pics/review_michelle_shocked.jpg
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:29 (eleven years ago) link
yup, i posted that upthread.
― my cat is an eliane radigue (get bent), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
The cover for 'On The Greener Side' used to freak me out when I was about 8http://ring.cdandlp.com/disclo/photo_grande/114094436.jpgActually got a bit of a fright seeing so many of it in Google images
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
Well...
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/03/michelle_shocke_1.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
The audio of the set, tweeted by Erin McEwan. "Michelle Shocked 2nd Yoshi's Set" will be a noise album title at some point soon I predict
https://soundcloud.com/therealtofuandwhiskey/michelle-shocked-2nd-yoshis
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
dibs
― Heyman (crüt), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
McKeown I should say.
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
"Folks wonder about my sexuality, but denying being gay is like saying I never beat my husband."
― mizzell, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly believe that people with so poor a grasp of rhetoric that they can't mention the "when did you stop beating your spouse" rhetorical gambit without making people wonder if they actually beat their spouse are better off not writing lyrics
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
When did you stop beating your lyricist?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
as discussed earlier here's what she put in the liner notes of Arkansas Traveler:
My early intention was to present this record with a coverphoto of myself wearing blackface. Aside from providingcontroversy for hatemongers or offending the delicate sensibilitiesof the politically correct, my sincere intention was that it wouldprovide a genuine focus on the real 'roots' of many of the tunesincluded; blackface minstrelsy. It's my contention that a blackfacetradition is alive and well hidden behind a modern mask. I believe that'blacking up' should be done correctly; as an exploration for the sourceof that hollow ring we mistakenly believe was immaculately conceived inLas Vegas, and in a context of true respect for the cultures we ape.
iirc the label had to tell her "we're not putting out a record with a white woman in blackface on the cover, Michelle"
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
I believe that 'blacking up' should be done correctly; as an exploration for the source of that hollow ring we mistakenly believe was immaculately conceived in Las Vegas
I think this is where the weed kicked in?
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
the soundcloud makes pretty clear that she's saying what _she_ thinks. "from their vantage point. well i shouldn't say their because i also mean mine. from our vantage point." etc. the "god hates" thing was said ironically/jokingly though.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
my parents listened to a fair bit of michelle shocked in the early 90s, i wonder if they've heard about this.
also never knew any of that stuff abt arkansas traveler, a record i had more than a passing familiarity with when i was 9.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
wow. at 7:30 in or so, things turn ugly.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone suggested that she was doing a significant amount of drugs before the show?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
at 17:00 or so they shut down the show and take her mic while people heckle, and she keeps trying to sing and play guitar even as everyone leaves.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
"i just want y'all to know that i did not ask for a deposit for this performance. and i'm pretty sure i'm going to be told, when i leave here tonight, that i did not give anyone their money's worth. and so now i would like to pass the hat, and ask if you wouldn't mind putting a dollar in."
this is amazing.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
And my statement equating repeal of Prop 8 with the coming of the End Times was neither literal nor ironic: it was a description of how some folks - not me - feel about gay marriage.
this is pretty lol because she literally says the opposite of this from stage.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
if I end up spending the whole time thinking about American race relations next time I blaze up I'm going to be really mad you afterwards
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
"...and in a context of true respect for the cultures we ape."
Hmmm . . .
― nickn, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
Michelle Shocked should start a Kickstarter campaign. For ... something.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
if this happens ask for a rebate from yr dealer imho
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
this whole thing makes me sadi first saw michelle in abt '89 or so opening up for billy bragg, the campfire tapes had given buzz but short, sharp, shocked had not hit yet. all of us were there to see billy but this solo acoustic performer made him work to get the audience back and i became a fan through following albums, live shows(the arkansas tapes blackface idea was ...... umm. complicated, it was a whole idea of how to address blackface and minstrelsy in american music and was a half-baked idea but not racist) (now seems more compliacated)andit is heartbreaking to hear her lose her shit this way and is def fucking with a lot of the audience that supported her over the years
― H in Addis, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
"when did you stop flogging that dead horse?"
― mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
"when it was sold to Tesco"
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
ask for a rebate from yr dealer
lol I'll let you know how this shakes out but I am not hopeful
― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
This is the first time I've thought about Michelle Shocked in like twenty years so clearly she's doing SOMETHING right
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
the written explanation is just...it's so full of handwaving it's almost unreadable.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
oy:
http://www.xojane.com/issues/on-my-confrontation-with-homophobe-michelle-shocked
― my cat is an eliane radigue (get bent), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
“Hey, can you hold on a second? I need to talk to the sound guys.”
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
bring your ball of yarnhttp://www.xojane.com/files/800px-Wild-Goose-Festival.JPG
― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
wow @ that article, great stuff glad the writer found the notes
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Leroy says shut the fuck up, girl.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 March 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
puppet showmichelle shocked
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 March 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
She's due on Nicole Sandler (never heard of her)'s talkshow which has just startedhttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/radio-or-not?utm_campaign=t.co&utm_source=667764&utm_medium=social
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link