New Yorker magazine alert thread

Re-read world's strongest man piece from last year. That piece is soooooo great.

irl lols at that. he was a real up his own ass kinda dude, kept pointing out busts of albert camus and saying things like "at your age, you are not ready to read camus. you are not ready to read shakespeare." the cult of personality shit around him does not surprise me at all, seemed like a real prey-on-the-weak type.

This is the Chris Berman article?

David Berman obv

not that this is the right handle by which to pick up something so serious, but . . . I have to say that the role of Miltonic "greatness" in Berman's predatory schtick was really particularly enraging to me- as an early modern academic, I have to say that the kind of parental superego of Miltonic authority is the most irritating part of Milton studies, the way that the rhetorical construction of Milton's lone visionary genius as the yardstick of all human achievement is just rife in the field as a disavowed-yet-obvious means by which Milton critics in turn pump up their own greatness as scholars/humans (and by extension flatter their readers as a "fit but few" exception to the herd who don't bask in the greatness), and to see this kind of debased variant of that cultish critical apparatus used as a tool to scare and intimidate (let alone molest) high school kids is just stomach-turning. Ugh ugh ugh x infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92JCleCaCj4

^^^wish she touched on that in the article

gr8080 i have a current print subscription and couldn't get in on the ipad last night -- it only showed 2012 articles in my library, wanted me to pay for anything in 2013. i think they're having some problems

just got a response:

Our records indicate you have purchased a print only subscription, which does not include digital access.

We would like to offer you the opportunity to upgrade your print
subscription to digital access for an additional $10.00.

is this a new thing? (i suppose it's worth it, i just don't remember this being the case)

I think it's an old thing that the subs system is screwed up -- in my 14 months "between subscriptions" I still had full access to the desktop digital archive.

weird....

also i feel like i clicked on a dozen diff pages last nite and couldnt ever see what the cost for a "digital only" subscription was?

sorry i know this has probably already been discussed upthread

http://i.imgur.com/WOfPVNt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y1QsBGx.jpg

that's just for the didge???

i think so

apparently

dear new yorker: giving me free digital access will prevent me from bitching at you when my print issues fail to arrive, like the one with the professor who went on a shooting spree

yeah and thats basically the same price for print + digital tho right?

ok so its $60/year for print OR digital, $70/year for BOTH

there's some nefarious pricing mind control at work:
http://conversionxl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/economistpricing.png
http://conversionxl.com/pricing-experiments-you-might-not-know-but-can-learn-from/

One of Berman’s lists tracked the thousand greatest people who had ever lived, and, Berman confided, he himself had recently reached No. 27, surpassing Herman Melville.

not that this is the right handle by which to pick up something so serious, but . . . I have to say that the role of Miltonic "greatness" in Berman's predatory schtick was really particularly enraging to me- as an early modern academic, I have to say that the kind of parental superego of Miltonic authority is the most irritating part of Milton studies, the way that the rhetorical construction of Milton's lone visionary genius as the yardstick of all human achievement is just rife in the field as a disavowed-yet-obvious means by which Milton critics in turn pump up their own greatness as scholars/humans (and by extension flatter their readers as a "fit but few" exception to the herd who don't bask in the greatness), and to see this kind of debased variant of that cultish critical apparatus used as a tool to scare and intimidate (let alone molest) high school kids is just stomach-turning. Ugh ugh ugh x infinity.

― the tune was space, Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:12 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

curious why these psychos are drawn to milton

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/03/sonali-deraniyagala-wave-review-teju-cole.html
― s.clover, Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:54 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reading this book rn; awful story

One of Berman’s lists tracked the thousand greatest people who had ever lived, and, Berman confided, he himself had recently reached No. 27, surpassing Herman Melville.

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:06 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

i like the "recently," like what happened that in his head he was like "nailed it"

that was amazing. like he thinks he's being humble not putting himself at the top

i love david carr so much in that clip

I immediately searched on line for a downloadable version of Berman's novel. No luck.

http://i.imgur.com/azKsgZf.jpg

lunatic in repose. gonna pull out all the stops to find a copy of his novel.

(btw it still being 60/yr for a subscrip is killing me, is it really worth that price rn?)

He looks like a Godard character.

hey I got an idea for that pointer

i wonder who berman roots for in milton. you've got your lovable scoundrel satan and evil manipulative stalin-like god, i could see it going either way.

(btw it still being 60/yr for a subscrip is killing me, is it really worth that price rn?)

― ta-nehisi goatse (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:30 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's 48 issues. gd is it worth it

what ugly hands!

word @ s1ocki, nyer subscription is easily the best thing i spend money on. & i just bought a really nice loaf of onion bread.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/03/sonali-deraniyagala-wave-review-teju-cole.html
― s.clover, Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:54 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reading this book rn; awful story

― cozen, Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorta wanna read this, though contending w/feelings of self-disgust at it being like evocatively rendered grief writing. how is it?

lol veg

boy's school teacher cult thing as old as the hills. ancient greece to thread. not that abuse is good obviously. but its typical. especially in previous eras.

"the didge" !

One of Berman’s lists tracked the thousand greatest people who had ever lived, and, Berman confided, he himself had recently reached No. 27, surpassing Herman Melville.

Wonder if Stanley Fish made the list.

"the didge" !

― k3vin k., Tuesday, April 2, 2013 6:53 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8TRoMSG-5I

lol

Won't download in the background my ass, I just cleared 2 gigs of these things offa my iPad.

they do if you elect to receive background downloads (impractical if you use wifi at work or phone tethering or w/e). if you manually kick off a download and close the app, i think it stops.

after a few minutes

vice piece kinda seemed like it was trying to indite them with banality

I don't even wanna read that one

boy's school teacher cult thing as old as the hills. ancient greece to thread. not that abuse is good obviously. but its typical. especially in previous eras.

otm. no coincidence this horace mann creep's heyday was during the late 60s & 70s, the age of cult leaders, gurus and "sexual permissiveness"

All this Vice synergy ... disconcerting. First Rodman goes to North Korea. Then there's a huge New Yorker piece, in advance of an HBO launch. And they were just profiled on NPR this morning, all with the same sort of formula of awed established names paying lip service to spunky edgy upstart as journalist for the 21st century. Like capturing the attention of the 18-24 male demo is something to be proud of.

vice has been grinding for a decade now to be the next mtv, their aspiration is big and ugly and now they have the clout of mtv and face time with a reclusive dictator. it's 15 minutes time. i hold out hope to have schadenfreude when the hbo show tanks but i dunno.

boy's school teacher cult thing as old as the hills. ancient greece to thread. not that abuse is good obviously. but its typical. especially in previous eras.

otm. no coincidence this horace mann creep's heyday was during the late 60s & 70s, the age of cult leaders, gurus and "sexual permissiveness"

― screen scraper (m coleman), Friday, April 5, 2013 5:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i forget who it was now but they quoted somebody who actually tried to excuse the abuse basically on these grounds: it's been commonplace for centuries and the era in question facilitated such "sexual experimentation" or however he or she chose to put it. i almost threw up