AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

Cold blooded Dirty Harry Carl made some good points. Raylan Givens would not have put up with as much shit as Rick et al. have. He'd be dropping bodies with a smile.

There was some great tension in this ep, but it was still mostly wheel spinning bullshit. Agree they gambled wrong that we would be invested in Andrea. Did Michonne know that Rick had sold her out? I can't remember what Merle said. If she did and forgave Rick, that's as stupid as Merle's sudden change of heart last ep. Also, Cutty as slow on the uptake as ever. This was an entire season of people somehow missing what's coming at them in slow motion. On that front, sort of enjoyed the belated prison battle being so brief.

Letting the Gov survive was the worst, because that means he's going to stick around for most of the next season, too. I guess they understand they have to kill protagonists to keep things dramatic, so they need a clear villain to keep the heat off the main cast. I hope they don't bring him back as a good guy or at least a better guy united in the fight against a bigger evil.

i'm resigned to liking this show because i just kind of like watching zombies, and it kinda looks cool and is a good escape for an hour, but it's definitely afrustrating, dull and not very good show almost all the time

carl otm. hopefully he goes off and establishes the Facist Republic of Carlistan

why did they go BACK to the prison
why bring all those people with them when a whiny backpacker is too much trouble
seriously fuck these idiots i have no idea wtf they are even doing anymore i mean COME ON

Yeah Michonne forgiving Rick was a whole scene in the ep, you missed it?

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Michonne did forgive Rick ... for considering turning her over. But he had decided, she just didn't seem to know it, which is why I was trying to remember what Merle said or whether she believed it.

Occurred to me that maybe show runner wanted to kill the Gov, and the network disagreed, which is why there is no closure on that front. Perhaps they did kill him and just either reshot the ending or cut it out. Would certainly explain why this ep rolled like a flat tire.

"why did they go BACK to the prison"

Could just be until they find the Governor. They'd be more vulnerable there until he is eliminated.

"why bring all those people with them when a whiny backpacker is too much trouble"

You could argue that was pre-full-clarity Rick

Just devil's advocating.

Oh Josh, I see. Actually I think she forgave him for not going through with it, not whether it was considered/decided. Though you're right wouldn't she assume Merle was carrying out that decision? So yeah I'm not sure.

She and Merle did talk about it in that ep - they actually both came to the conclusion that Rick never would've gone through with the trade

BTW, apparently there were some reshoots of the last three eps after Mazzara was taken off the show, so I bet that explains this unsatisfying fizzle of a finale.

some deets: http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/01/the-walking-dead-dallas-roberts-milton-andrea/

don't know if that specific bit with Andrea and Milton would've been better without their conversation, tbh. wanna know what else was changed though

weak weak finale. not only do we not get the obvious pay off, but there wasn't even a good hook to keep watching.

But .... The Governor! What of the Governor!!?!?!

(zombies too, I suppose, but mostly the Governor. He's the only reason people have been watching, right?)

One of the all-time great TV characters.

They should have just called the show "The Governor," and made it about the various problems the Governor faced. No clean drinking water! Lice outbreak! Zombies! People would tune in to watch how these problems got solved, and wonder ... how did The Governor become the Governor?

The finale would be set in heaven, btw.

Opening should be like The Rifleman except he's shooting random civilians.

I was thinking more along the line of "The Oregon Trail." With zombies.

tbf, david morrissey has been brilliant

Sorry if this has been covered upthread, but how did they manage the CGI for Herschel's legs?

Or lack thereof I mean.

Cgi probably

LOL at asking how they got rid of his legs in a show about zombies tearing people to pieces when they're not exploding.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-07-10/entertainment/ca-14048_1_gary-sinise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqAbjHKO5jM

huh, i'm watching "In Cold Blood" and i'll be damned if good ol Hershel doesn't play one of the killers

scott wilson's awesome

Oh this is back.

it's always nice to see new faces... even if they will inevitably die

"Oh, hello there. It's been a hot summer down here in Redshirt Corners..."

Apparently if you were on the show 'the wire' your mortality rate improves. D'angelo Barksdale just walked on set. He joins the boxing coach...sigh.

WTF at the women with the Cork accent!

woman, rather than women

The crazy lady? I was wondering what that accent was.

Really odd choice to give a minor character an accent v specific to a county in southern Ireland, presume they just liked her work.

Liked her acting more than her attempt at US accent.

She was supposed to have just stopped in America flying somewhere else on her honeymoon

I wondered if they added that in to explain the accent.

That was tonally weird and kinda unpleasant. And PETA is probably pissed.

one thing I wonder - maybe Patrick didn't kill Karen at the beginning because he could sense she was already infected (ala Alien 3)

if this is the case it could lead somewhere a little more interesting

Meanwhile

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fox-news-says-the-walking-dead-is-brainwashing-ame,104517/

Yeah, that stuff with the pigs was just brutal to watch. That whole episode was one of the darkest things I've ever seen on television.

The first episode, when the dying Irish woman asked Rick what the three questions were, I really, really, really, wanted him to start with, "WHAT . . . is your name?"

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this season is even worse than usual. the pigs thing was weird and sort of needless, not least since the show actually appeared to write some pigs into the storyline as a key plot device. real no kidding pigs.

on the other hand, as regards the cruelty, halfway through rick's pig murder it occurred to me that was probably what was going to happen to them anyway, in the end.

That was tonally weird and kinda unpleasant.

It's as though everyone involved forgot that, as well as gruesome/bleak, this is actually also supposed to be entertaining

i quit the show after the incredibly lame season finale last year where the governor hobbled into the woods shaking his fist and going "i'll get you rotten kids next time!"

I appreciated the grimness of this episode a lot. It's still hard to care about many of the characters, though, which is a big problem. They can only hold backstory so close to the vest before you start looking at everyone like zombie food.

I do appreciate how suddenly diverse the cast has become.

^^

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day: this Sunday's ep was pretty solid. The characters even take some time to talk about stuff that happened in previous seasons.

yeah, good episode. good coverage by Y2J on the Talking Bad episode afterward too, actually

And then, not unlike the turn from corpse to zombie, the show gets a lethal case of the stupids. If you're monitoring a host of patients on the cusp of death, and the dead come back to life, and you know many if not most of these people will likely die and come back to eat you with little or no warning, you do your rounds armed, morons.

Also, if hundreds of zombies are massing up against the visibly weakened fence for a few episodes, you don't put that shit off.

I did appreciate how for a minute there the survival of a number of major characters seemed uncertain.

i actually really liked the episode - pretty effective and exciting overall. the stupidity is sort of explained away by Hershal's stubbornness- Caleb even told him to take the loaded shotgun! if nobody acted stupid there wouldn't be a show, tbh

otoh the Governor reveal was way too easy. guess nobody noticed him stalking around these past months

He's very quiet.

But really, they've showed the fence buckling for a few episodes now, which means several TV-show days. Fix the damn fence! Also, why was whatshername the only person on fence duty? They sent off every able bodied person on their quests and left behind only the sick or infirm? There's stupid, then there's stupid as contrivance, which is less forgivable.