Sad News About Paul Williams (the Crawdaddy music critic)

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yeahhh, i know, not the easiest interface, but hey. is the Crawdaddy Book presented like this (meaning just reprints of the actual pages)? i would like that.

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

It feels weird to complain about having to squint a little in order to read seminal issues of a seminal magazine that I never thought I'd ever have a chance to read, but jeez, just one more zoom-in would be perfect.

Haven't seen the book, thinking it's time to pick it up.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

The book is mostly that stuff reprinted.

everything, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

i love those early issues of crawdaddy that wfmu is posting...lol at his review of revolver!

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

I like the Revolver review!

timellison, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

no mention of TNK = hilarity

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite bit in the collection Outlaw Blues, which I think is all from the 60s, is when this guy he's interviewing says the last time he listened to "A Day In The Life", he started laughing at the ending--like, "Oooh, is the record gonna blow up?"

dow, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Best parts of "Outlaw Blues" are the interviews with Paul Rothchild all about the making of the Doors debut (before it broke big) and with Brian Wilson associate David Anderle that helped establish all the SMiLe pre-release hype.

I always appreciated Williams' writing for its gee-whiz enthusiasm, plus the fact that he was there at the forefront. RIP dude.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah those anderle chats about the beach boys are fascinating and kind of hilarious in their hand-wringing-ness: "Brian Wilson hasn't released any music in four months -- CAN BRIAN WILSON MAKE A COMEBACK!!!???"

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

no mention of TNK = hilarity

There's a whole paragraph about it.

timellison, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

ach there was another page d'oh

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

basically he says they should save their experiments for the studio and not put them on their albums. so interesting to read relatively negative reviews from the moment of canonical records. he was like, eh it's no rubber soul...and i always thought the rubber soul crowd were just contrarians

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 4 April 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

and he DIDN'T like the strings on Eleanor Rigby! sorry, i'll stop now

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 4 April 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

PW wasn't the biggest Beatles fan (said so in those exact words in his "100 Greatest Singles" book)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 4 April 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

huh, did not know that! thanks, i'll explore...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link

kinda interesting how much ambivalence about the beatles there is in early rockcrit -- nik cohn really blasts them in 'awopbopaloobop,' basically says he detests them except for a handful of lennon songs. i think greil marcus has said a couple places that he thinks it was all the way downhill after 'rubber soul.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, "Sgt Pepper" was when the STRAIGHT world really caught on

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't Marcus call the White Album stunning in Stranded? Sgt. Pepper, yes, he was ambivalent.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 April 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

There was hardly critical consensus about Pepper at the time. Marsh was lukewarm on it, too.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 April 2013 02:03 (eleven years ago) link

Sure, but Time magazine & the like were all over it, was all I meant.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 4 April 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

Doesn't Marcus call the White Album stunning in Stranded?

Don't own it, but he does say that in his RS Illustrated History of Rock and Roll piece. Here's what he says on '66-'67 Beatles:

"At the time, it was obvious that Revolver, released in 1966, was better than Rubber Soul, just as it was obvious that Sgt. Pepper was better than both put together. The times carried the imperative of such a choice--though it was not really a choice at all, but rather a sort of faceless necessity. The only road, after all, was onward.

Such a choice does not seem so obvious now, and of course the necessity has faded. Revolver retains the flash its title promised but little of the soul its predecessor delivered. Compared to either, Sgt. Pepper appears playful but contrived, less a summing up of its era than a concession to it."

timellison, Thursday, 4 April 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

You need to rememberthat Marcus is always referring to the American Rubber Soul when talks about the album (it's the one pre-'68 stateside release of theirs he included in Stranded).

Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 April 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bk-aow/column2.php

timellison, Thursday, 4 April 2013 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful, may well be his best early piece (next to the one about the young woman who starved herself to death on a macrobiotic diet, with a mention of anorexia nervosa, italics his---what a strange thing to glimpse in the mid-60s, it seems). Always good when he lets other people into his pad. Love that he quoted all those early responses to Pepper. and explained his own. I agree with him: they did want to turn us own to the real world, reconcile the generations, to some extent, for inst. But that's not just a conceptual thing, "I used to be Angry Young Man/Me hiding me head in the sand" leads to also the truly confessional side, which wasn't only re that trend in US x Uk poetry: "I used to be cruel to my woman I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved/Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene, I'm doing the best that I can", which puts a lot of strength into "I've got to admit things are getting better." The only one that really doesn't work at all for me is "Within You Without You", although I agree with Williams' interviewee--Anderle? Think so--about "A Day In The Life"'s production getting too self-important.

dow, Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

I remember being shocked in high school to read contemporary, mainstream press reviews of the Beatles catalog and discover that general consensus was it was all downhill once they entered their psych period. at least, that's what the assembled reviews in my hs library indicated.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

Wow! What were the sources?

dow, Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if Marcus viewed the "concession" of Sgt. Pepper as being musical or something to do with the subject matter. In either case, I'm not sure what was conceded.

timellison, Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

dow this was like 30 years ago lol but I remember that the reviews were primarily short blurbs from non-rock-music mags, more mainstream papers/press.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

er 20 years ago? fuck how old am I

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

At least as old as since Sgt. P taught the band to play.

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

here's a funny one from The Harvard Crimson ('68 - White Album review):

ON ONLY ONE of their albums have the Beatles taken a fundamental step forward to compare with their achievements on the singles. That record was Rubber Soul, which brought about the supreme liberation of rhythm-and-blues by injecting an unprecedented controlled melody into the rigid structure of thumping drums and bass. In doing so, Rubber Soul significantly dissolved this structure by making it technically and spiritually possible to fuse a lurching tune onto stuttering, free drums. This development led the Beatles directly through the half-successful numbers "Rain" and "Tomorrow Never Knows" to its culmination in the masterpiece, "Strawberry Fields."
The Beatles does not contain the seeds of such a revolution. It is a traditional Beatle album and as such it consists of a collection of measured and highly crafted songs; therefore it is mandatory to have it around. Nevertheless, even within this limited perspective the record leaves one with a nagging sense of non-fulfillment.

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

"the supreme liberation of rhythm-and-blues"!!

tylerw, Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

"Never in the history of art"

What About The Half That's Never Been POLLed (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

"half-successful"?

dow, Thursday, 4 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Xgau:

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band [Capitol, 1967]
A dozen good songs and true. Perhaps they're too precisely performed, but I'm not going to complain. A

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 4 April 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

to get back to williams, i just posted this thing over here: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/47121287935/caribbean-wind-bob-dylan-warfield-theatre which williams wrote about at length.

tylerw, Thursday, 4 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

h'mm, another encounter with thee, Witcheh Woman. The music would prob make a dif, but reading this, I like Dylan's comments on the song better than the lyrics. How are Williams' Dylan books?

dow, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno, i love that song... williams' dylan books are great if you want to get deep into specific shows/tours/periods.

tylerw, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

Williams considered "Renaldo & Clara" the supreme artistic achievement of Dylan's career!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

Cazart! Any direct quotes?

dow, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Williams considered "Renaldo & Clara" the supreme artistic achievement of Dylan's career!

Are you sure? He writes a whole thing in his Performing Artist book about R&C and I don't remember anything about him saying, "Oh yeah -- I directed this."

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/the-improbable-birth-of-american-rock-writing/

Yet Crawdaddy! was a long way from mere teenage snark. When Paul Simon read Williams’ insightful review of Sounds of Silence in the first issue, he called him up—finally getting him on the floor phone in his freshmen dorm.

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According to Williams’ lore, of which there’s no shortage, the young editor became a rock ‘n’ roll gadfly. In his Zeligesque history, he got turned on to weed by Brian Wilson in the psycho refuge of the Beach Boy’s living room tent. He not only made it to Woodstock, he arrived there with the Grateful Dead in the band’s limo. When you hear the rifle being locked and loaded on The Doors’ “Unknown Soldier”, that’s Paul Williams doing the locking and loading. He served as campaign manager for Timothy Leary’s brief attempt to run for Governor of California against Ronald Reagan—

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

his PKD book is so great

flappy bird, Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

good digital versions of the Williams era of Crawdaddy here -- some great stuff
http://www.vistaservices.com/crawdaddy/
need to read his PKD book

tylerw, Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link

oh! and there's this cool radio show w/ williams and producer Tom Wilson chatting in early '68. http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/69887

tylerw, Thursday, 23 March 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link


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