ya i mean he does not work for them anymore FWIW
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah all i'm saying is let me know the next time mtv arranges a boredoms performance that morbius gets sunburnt waiting in line for
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
he used to write like the entire magazine
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Before the nyer article all i knew of Vice was the cover of a book i used to see displayed in "staff picks" sections of bookstores 10 years ago. I think it had a white guy with a fro and gold teeth on the cover. That and on ile threads when someone would say "i hate linking to vice but..."
― gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
the more up to date critique of vice, as outlined in the nyer piece, is that theyre basically just a an advertising firm
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
some of their video stuff is pretty cool, tho i think its better understood as travel documentary than journalism
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
There's this real lame "we're just putting it out there, maaaaaaan" aspect to what they do, which I find tends to severely undercut even the stuff of theirs that has merit. Also, I never thought what travel shows and investigative journalism needed was a dose of the Xtreme or other Jackass!-ery.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
^ this. pretty much the only worthwhile part of the enterprise in 2013 are the travel vids. xp
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
what travel shows need is exactly a dose of jackassery!
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
did u see the mormons fighting the drug cartels one?
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
no that sounds good tho!
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
i mean maybe not exactly jackassery but at least like a little bit of real people seeing real things, usual travel shows are just like this boring narration and some smiling person being all look we took a plane to a waterfall, doesnt at all capture the vibe of traveling, vice may be a little douche (tho not always) but they def come closer to some sort of travel verisimilitude
the japanese suicide forest one was obv exploitative but really fascinating and touching too
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
ladies and gentlemen, the target audience
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol forks media critic
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
lol u feeling the need to get defensive about the stuff you claim to like
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
jeez forks i just think your media criticism is funny
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
if anyone doesn't want to check out the vice travel videos bc gr8080, lag00n and i give considered praise for them, i think that's legit. i certainly don't think my taste in media jibes w/ everyone
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
japanese suicide forest sounds extremely interesting to me tho, and i will check it out now
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
brb starting a media company w/ lagoon and mordy
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
forks standby for the press release
1080p HD is sweet too
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
let's do it guys
1st order of business hire forks as public editor
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
forks i'm gonna need 700 words on spring breakers by 4:30 pm get to it
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
i'm pretty excited for the HBO series actually.
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
brb, cutting and pasting "horseshit" 700 times
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
feel like youll prob want to work 'white western male privilege' in there somewhere
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
enjoy what you wanna enjoy, i genuinely think you guys ARE the target audienceme, not so much anymore. ahma go throw some ceramics
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
goodnight sweet prince
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
u might like this video they did on anarchist pottery throwers
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Like, it's not enough that they go to Chernobyl. They have to do it drunk.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
you just cant deal w their bad boy take no prisoners attitude man
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
actually i guess theyre more dont give a shit than take no prisoners
if they added rocket-skates I would never watch anything else BUT their vids
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
the vice photo book is u+k
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
in the nyer piece theyre covering the flooding of venice and its connection to global warming and they goto a flooded bar and have a drink and are all NOW this is a real vice piece lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Xtreme Bar
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
vice target audience: alcoholics
― Mordy, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like vice are more ironic detachment than they are extreme, like theyre not making a big deal out of things generally, hipsters arent xtreme
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, April 5, 2013 2:44 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that scene cracked my ass up
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
the article kinda made me suspect that the business wasnt as financially sound as they were making it out to be
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
At present, Vice’s profits—which a source estimates were forty million dollars last year—seem to be dependent on securing and maintaining partnerships with a few major corporate clients. If you spend enough time inside the Vice empire, much of its noise and energy—the Web site and the ad network, the international offices, even Smith’s talk of global domination—can start to feel like a ruse, in the vein of its “basketball diplomacy” stunt, a show to make those partnerships happen.
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
― Jopy's on a vacation far away (Jon Lewis), Friday, April 5, 2013 8:51 AM (3 minutes ago)
guy yelling "look its CNN" was a great KO
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
i like their video work too. i dunno. i think the vice yall are thinking of is really fucking different from what they do nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYFEoWwDvxY
travel stuff like that is dope to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQC3jp1udUg
there's that kind of thing, too.
and HEY fuck it sometimes i just want to see a guy taking acid and going to a dog show. does that make me a bad person?
― dylannn, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
westminster lsdiplomacy
― johnny crunch, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
dylannn otm
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
someone was telling me that there was some major fallout from the exploitative libera piece they did.
CNN picked up and after it ran a few times it killed what little tourism economy librea previously had
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
a friend of mine who works in libera wrote a v angry blog post abt that piece
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link