The Police - what's the best album?

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Copeland was born in the fifties iirc. It was just Andy Summers that was the old man in the band. He's in his 70s now btw, which is just astonishing to me.

as a sock, son, you flop (NickB), Friday, 12 April 2013 09:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh, ok then...

Mark G, Friday, 12 April 2013 09:05 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe Sting and Stewart both sing the song, and Andy just keeps quiet and plays..

Mark G, Friday, 12 April 2013 09:06 (eleven years ago) link

More than likely, the song is from their Henry Padovani days...

Mark G, Friday, 12 April 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

He keeps quiet and thinks 'I hate these twats already'

as a sock, son, you flop (NickB), Friday, 12 April 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

He's in his 70s now btw, which is just astonishing to me.

I guess it's not so astonishing if you think of him as a contemporary of the Stones and the Animals etc who got his break a lot later on in life.

as a sock, son, you flop (NickB), Friday, 12 April 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

They had better songs and musical interplay on some of their other albums but I always liked Ghost in the Machine as that record has a distinct vibe through the whole record. I think part of it is that there is synth throughout most of the record and it's like the same synth and when added with the echo guitar kind of gives that album a somewhat uniform sound, which gives it a pretty distinct flow compared to the Police's other albums.

earlnash, Friday, 12 April 2013 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

These interview excerpts are amazing, thanks Alfred.

Kitchen Person and Naive Teen Idol otm about the first and last three Ghost in the Machine tracks, Omegaman/Secret Journey/Darkness is such a great bit of sequencing.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 12 April 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

agree with all that has been written here - all albums have filler, sting is a prick, etc. considering that, 'Ghost...' and (to a lesser degree) 'Synchronicity' feel more coherent for me - if not in songwriting terms, at least in terms of mood and sonically/production-wise. I'm going for 'Ghost...' since it was the first record i heard from them, apart from one of the greatest hits.

rusty_allen, Friday, 12 April 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm looking through the tracklistings and I keep changing my mind. Reggatta is probably the most listenable front to back.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 12 April 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol this is grim

Post-Police (1984-2007)
Summers' solo career has included touring, recording, composing for films (including 2010, Down and Out in Beverly Hills, The Wild Life and Weekend at Bernie's), writing books, and exhibiting his photography. In 1992, he served a brief stint as Musical Director on the short-lived Dennis Miller Show.

Rapper Boy (some dude), Friday, 12 April 2013 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

I'm looking through the tracklistings and I keep changing my mind. /Reggatta/ is probably the most listenable front to back.

Zenyatta was the most popular, but I liked Reggatta the most of the first three records -- it's where they felt most like a band. It has great singles, the best filler (the interplay between Copeland and Summers on this record is incredible) and loads of space and atmosphere.

To that point, something that's mostly forgotten now -- when Ghost came out, the critical consensus was that the denser production by Hugh Padgham didn't play to their strengths. In retrospect, it was a pretty amazing left turn -- one I kind of wished they had explored more on Synchronicity.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

the Police seem like they had one of those rare charmed careers where each album was bigger than the last, but once they hit their peak all boats lifted and hear songs from all five albums pretty equally, even the first two from before they 'broke' America.

Rapper Boy (some dude), Friday, 12 April 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

and they were, I guess, the Biggest Band in the World in '83. Rare for a band at the peak of its powers to simply....stop.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

The only other one I can think of is The Jam splitting around the same time - although they obviously weren't as popular worldwide. Some obvious parallels between the two as well.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 12 April 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

okay reading these quotes of them bouncing off of each other is reminding me of why I ever liked Sting in the first place

relentless technosexuality (DJP), Friday, 12 April 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Like them all. But going for Zenyatta Mondata for 2 reasons:
1) it features the first pop song I was really mad about Don't Stand So Close to Me (fish aged 5)
2) Shadows in the Rain and Voices in My Head

OutdoorFish, Friday, 12 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

his Klark Kent stuff is like a lost Police album

I dispute that "Don't Care" could have been a Police song

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 April 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

OK:

Outlandos best album though it's very close and Regatta is probably my sentimental favorite and one I've listened to most times in my life (w/ Synchronicity second)

Worst filler tie between "Born in the 50s" and "On Any Other Day" though I can't deny really digging the SOUND of both these songs.

Cosign love for "Fallout" -- if they'd put it on Outlandos my vote would have been easier. Have never heard the B-side, "Nothing Achieving," is it good?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 April 2013 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

Listening now, no, "Nothing Achieving" is not that good.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 April 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

On Any Other Day is the best of the filler.

OutdoorFish, Friday, 12 April 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

I dispute that "Don't Care" could have been a Police song

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, April 12, 2013 9:53 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed but if you have the Kollected Works comp (I don't know what's on the actual album) you can hear that a lot of these songs were written for someone with a higher range. the overall sound is much closer to the Police than anything Sting's done!

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

that group interview is really really great by the way

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

I note that it is dated April 1.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 April 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

I actually bought that issue of Revolver while waiting two hours for a table on Mother's Day 2000.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 April 2013 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

at a mall Cheesecake Factory.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 April 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

that's when i'd reach for my revolver too

Rapper Boy (some dude), Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

I've often been half-tempted to call up record stores asking what Police albums they have in stock, just to see how they pronounce the titles of the first three...

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

But is the interview real? That's what I'm asking.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

yes. it's probably just their april issue and when someone wanted to put an exact date on it they defaulted to "april 1."

Rapper Boy (some dude), Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Worst filler is Secret Journey or Omegaman

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

no way, both those are great

frogbs, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. I'm listening to the back half of Ghost in the Machine now and it's terrific. Dunno why the band describes it as a dense, crammed album since the bits of saxophone and synth remind me of what Steely Dan might have done had they stuck around through New Wave and Gone Political.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

Shall have to listen again. Liked Secret Journey at the time, but recall it now as a bit corny. Omegaman seemed like a rush job.

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

That interview is real. Supposedly it was recorded to be bonus material on remasters of the albums, but was discarded for obvs. reasons. (makes 'drinky-drinky' motion with hands) Revolver (which had just launched as an American answer to Mojo or Q) picked it up and ran it in their first issue.

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

I like the idea of Sting thinking, "Man, I miss the boys, let me invite them to Tuscany for the weekend for swimming and wine," then regretting it as they start beating each other's asses again and vowing never to speak again

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

bet it happens once a year at least

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

i watched that Police documentary that Stew put together a few years back and that is definitely how they always talked to each other

frogbs, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

I thought for sure I was gonna vote Ghost in this but I am surprising myself by hovering my finger over the Zenyatta button instead. I would propose that the guitar sound on 'When the World is Running Down' is one of the most edible ever put to tape.

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

what would it taste like?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Zenyatta!

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

a smooth, translucent slice of pickled ginger

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

I was gonna say: a martini with St Germain instead of vermouth, with a slice of cucumber.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

i concede to you!

brad palsy (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Listening to Ghost for the first time in ages. I like the sound but can't shake the sense that it's basically Regatta with a wirier, more menacing sound (which they would bring to full fruition on "Synchronicity II") - that is, some killer singles, generally energetic playing... and a lot of underwritten songs whose choruses amount to everybody chanting the title repeatedly. There are still some great moments along the way, for example the way the solo comes in on "Omegaman" (too bad it's so aimless), but it kind of empties the magazine in the first three tracks.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

synchronicity because it is different in that it is goin into new directions. btw it's rare that a band finishes with their best album, the only other one i can think of is talk talk (though laughing stock and spirit of eden are about equally great).

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Mother is quite amazing

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 14 April 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

How unfortunate that Stingo didn't share his impressions.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqIkazCdAA

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 14 April 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Does Everyone Stare" may be their best filler. Is it their only piano-driven song? It's wonderful/awful how the piano just... can't... keep... in the groove with the incredible rhythmic tightness of the other instruments.

SlimAndSlam, Sunday, 14 April 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link


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