CURRENT "BLACK FLAG" tour

can't speak for anyone else posting itt but I can 500% guarantee that if I had never read or posted to this board I would still be aware of what lots and lots of ppl think about Greg Ginn

<i>as opposed to FLAG which features 100% former members.</i>
Except for Edgerton.

If Ginn, Dukowski or any of these guys want to ruin their legacies or play in pathetic cover bands, I'll check it out.

It's not a great tune, but that new song does sound like Black Flag and you can tell it's Greg Ginn on guitar.

Out of curiosity I went and looked up for some video of Flag!!!! with Keith Morris. Check out every other person with a cell phone or camera filming the band. Wacky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZt8yiwN-o

I'm holding out for the IRL not-asshole super group of Ginn/Don Henley/Mike Love/Lou Reed and a few other assholes. I mean, non-assholes. I was thinking ILX, not IRL.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/08/black-flag-sues-flag-henry-rollins-for-copyright-infringement/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com//sites/default/files/custom/Documents/ESQ/SSTRecordsvRollins.pdf

I'm no lawyer, but I don't see this going very well for Greg.

Fuck this clown forever.

I'm supposed to see Flag at FYF Fest in a couple of weeks. Only way this could get sillier is if a cease and desist was served on stage.

Black Flag sues Henry Rollins for copyright infringement, demands immediate amputation of his left upper arm, neck

Oh please, Oh please, Oh please Keith, just name the band 'Fuck Greg Ginn' and call it a day.

In what is probably the only time in my life I'd ever advocate for a corporation suing a person, I would like to see the manufacturers of Black Flag bug spray sue the shit out of Greg Ginn (and win!).

What a prick. Raymond Pettibon came up with the name and the logo for Black Flag anyway. Wonder if Ginn ever paid his brother anything for that.

They fell out in the mid-80s after Pettibon discovered SST types cutting up his original artwork for flyers and such. Be surprised if he's seen a single dollar from his work (a common SST complaint).

Yeah i remember them talking about why RP fell out with Flag in this - but I can't recall if they said he was ever paid even a token sum for the name or logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0u04EqNVjo

He's properly minted now, of course, so I'm sure he's not too bothered!

for sure - just the principle of the thing, with ginn suing over the value of the name & logo

Let the cats claw you to hell - you silly cunt.

God I hope they counter-sue for royalties from (as Ginn's suit says) "over one million units sold"

^^

http://www.spin.com/articles/flag-black-greg-ginn-lawsuit-won-keith-morris-henry-rollins/

verdict: rollins never quit the band

and Ginn lost

love the comments

Uh.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/what-the.../id727788209

http://a1.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Music6/v4/9f/2c/d7/9f2cd77d-59a7-78f0-ed6c-49aa6a945431/888003267824.170x170-75.jpg

that artwork is hideous, and would be even if it was a NOFX or Less Than Jake album cover....

I have a feeling that cover perfectly encapsulates the music within.

this is the REAL FLAG!

This is what happens when you burn bridges with your infinitely more talented brother, I guess.

btw I went to the Flag reunion and Pettibon designed an (awesome) new tour t-shirt for them that was on sale

This one?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1401385_646393225405340_1520880077_o.jpg

I love that one part of the whole attitude of FLAG is seeing how much they can get under Greg Ginn's skin.

oh fuck I want that tee shirt

From a friend on FB: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=597856710275916&set=a.149258521802406.30503.100001547769952&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=597856710275916&set=a.149258521802406.30503.100001547769952&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

can you post whatever that is? link requires facebook

Link doesn't work even if you have an FB account fwiw

Ah - it was the My War sleeve with WHAT THE HELL printed on top of it in a box, like the recent Bowie sleeve.

hey this record sucks ass

what you don't believe me?

http://www.stereogum.com/1554272/stream-black-flag-what-the/mp3s/album-stream/

You're fine, I believe you

Black Flag vocalist Ron Reyes has parted ways with the currently revived incarnation of the legendary punk act. In a post to his Facebook page earlier this evening, Ron reveals that he was fired on stage at the November 24th date of band's Australian tour and was replaced by professional skateboarder Mike Vallely.

Good for Ron.

He should join Flag.

"fired on stage" as in during the middle of a song?

"RISE ABOVE! RISE AB-"

"Ok, that's quite enough, off you go."

lol

naw it should be more like an oldtimey baseball umpire

*points off stage* YOU'RE OUTTA HEAH

Lol - apparently they fired him with two songs left, and finished the show with another band member on vocals. At that stage of the show, what was the point?

Sounds about as awkward as the Misfits show that Michale Graves quit the band on-stage.

He should join Flag.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:51 AM

On November 24th 2013 the last night of the Australian Hits and Pits tour with two songs left in the set Mike V comes on stage stares me down, takes my mic and says “You’re done, party’s over get off it’s over…” He said something else to me but it was a lie so I won’t repeat it here. So with a sense of great relief that it was finally over I left the stage and walked to the hotel room. They finished the set with Mike V on vocals. There is much more that can and perhaps should be said. But for now I will spare you the gory details. The writing was on the wall since before we played our first show. So many things went wrong from the start. I was into things like having a good drummer, rehearsing and spending time on things like beginnings and endings of songs, being a little less distracted with tour life and a little more on the ball. You know things that would make our efforts worthy of the name Black Flag… Yes it is my opinion that we fell very short indeed and the deminihing ticket sales and crowds are a testament to that. However It was made clear to me that raising these issues was tantamount to a blasphemous stab in the back to Greg. How could I question him, his efforts and hard work? How could I dare be a fan of OFF! And or be friends and a fan of Flag? I was told that I had to chose sides. But I refuse to treat someone like an infalable Pope figure. No guitarist deserves such unquestioning blind devotion. And so I have been excommunicated in a very strange fashion. I truly feel sorry for anyone who had to witness the infantile behaviour and the relentless provocation I was subjected to both on and off the stage. I regret that under such fierce provocation and taunting I sometimes responded in maners bellow my standard. I am greatful for the opportunities Greg gave me. There were some magical moments at first. I was naive enough to believe in the promise of potential. But in the end the good was no match for the overwhelming bad. It am proud of my contributions including the new album and it’s cover. Come on folks it’s only rock n roll. I would not be surprised if Mike V becomes the new singer for Black Flag. It is my opinion that they have been planing this for some time. I wish them well. Mike is a true deciple of Greg and so they have a good working relationship. And Ironicly the tension over the last weeks has brought out some of Greg’s best playing. So it could be interesting. I will miss playing with Dave Klien. He is a great kid and truly an outstanding bass player. Dave was an anchor that kept me from losing my place on a nightly basis. Trust me that was no easy task for either of us. I truly apologize for being in or more accurately “appearing” to be in competition with “Flag”. They know my heart on this matter. From the beginning I was happy for them and fully supported and understood why they would want to rock those songs and have a good time with friends and family. Yes I questioned their use of the name and logo but in no way questiond their motivation or right to do their thing. I envy them for they have succeeded in ways that were never possible with “Black Flag”. And once again for the record, I agreed to do Black Flag before I knew there was a Flag. I mean no malice towards Greg or Mike although they will most likely see things very differently. I wish them luck and prosperity. I have learned many valuable lessons this year. And these lessons will enrich my personal and musical endeavours. Cheers. Ron Reyes.

PARTY'S OVER, TELL THE REST OF THE CREW

we're probably only about two-three months removed from a pro wrestler joining the lineup

lol Ginn should change the name of the band to The People's Republic of North BlackFlagistan

it's sad, who will give us more crayon-vomit cover artwork?