he was a tv writer for quite a while and that definitely shows in his writing. a lot of the first season of this show practically just used the book as the screenplay
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
The chapters feel perfectly paced to be scenes in a tv show.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Yeah the first book is rather tightly structured for a 900 page novel
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
he's talked some about how the act structure of building to commercial breaks by cutting on a cliffhanger really influenced how he approached the chapter structure.
― Clay, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer)
The first is my favourite in some ways because of this. There's a neat inexorability to the plot which is missing in the later ones, particularly the last two.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah the first book is really the best-written one
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
The third is the most exciting though.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
daario kept making me think of the groosalugg
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
"The third is the most exciting though."
For sure, I'm not sure I've ever read a book quite like it in that respect. Once it hits its stride it's totally relentless.
― Windsor Davies, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Seven Hells at the book's description of Daario! Still, I think it would have been more... interesting if the TV show had gone with something closer to that than the bland, romance novel guy that they did go with.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
Daario morelilke Fabio amirite
― DavidM, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
FWIW I really don't think his prose is particularly bad. He's never going to win any awards as a stylist of course, but his writing is often pretty evocative, and he has a way of describing the big dramatic scenes in a somewhat understated way which is very effective. Also a good dialogue writer. As Roberto said, there's a ton of far far worse professional SF/fantasy writing out there.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah I was pleasantly surprised tbh tho by the third book he's definitely showing tics and by 4/5 he's straight-up lazy/maybe even a little bored.
aka second act problems I suppose
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
GRRM vs. Robert Caro in prose style showdown
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
if hes too lazy to write the books and hes bad at writing why doesnt he just hire someone to do it for him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
I'm strangely upset that TV Daario doesn't have a gold tooth.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
― shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat shit, cat (zachlyon), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:14 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, yes
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 21, 2013
he totally should tbh. too rockist tho.
(except I bet he's left instructions just in case something happens to him)
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
GRRM supposedly told Benioff and Weiss where he's going in case he kicks off.
― llama del rey (Leee), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
the show is going to catch up to the books if he doesn't speed up his process significantly on the last two
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
even if it takes 2 more seasons to get to the end of book 5, he needs to have book 6 ready by then and also suddenly has a year to write book 7
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
i could imagine him writing the last season of the show before finishing the last book. i think he might revel in the howls of outrage
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
otm
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:21 (ten years ago) link
but the show could probably spin the balance of 3 + 4 + 5 into…maybe even 4 more seasons.
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Also GRRM is only two years older than my mom and I want her around for another 30 years :( :(
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 06:26 (ten years ago) link
which book is the show in now
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
Three. They're likely to get about 2/3rds of the way through it.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link
do you guys think grrm is outraged over the casting of Daario? like arguing with the producers -- "no, this isn't attractive, this isn't attractive at all."
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Not even a mustachio to be found, pointed gold or otherwise...
― Evan, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
he doesn't seem to precious about his 'vision', as long as the cheques keep rolling in.
"bland, romance novel guy" is totally otm. but i like dude's casual smugness for the role.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
"Ahhh, I know exactly the sort of guy that a stunningly beautiful and independent and strong-willed young queen with armies and kingdoms and dragons would be into"
Hah, from this I was expecting the description to be "portly bearded aging scribe"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
Also he cut his teeth in TV, he must be resigned to the fact that some stuff is going to have to be changed/watered down. He's probably delighted to see his world realised on screen with the level of accuracy it has been.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
I mean Tyrion's described as horribly ugly in the books, and he seems to be totally behind Dinklage's casting.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
also he had his nose cut off
― Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
I suspect the reason for that change is to avoid having to expensively cgi out Dinklage's nose in every scene.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
I think it also has to do with an attempt to give him a wound without seriously detracting from his overall attractiveness.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
it would be too gross, like reading abt it is one thing
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
i bet they told dink they had to surgically alter his nose and he squealed like a bitch about it. fucking actors.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it would've been too much to make him go the full Time Traveler's Wife
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/b37ef1a61d968520e9d1bed7a6123300/tumblr_mn59h2j2cM1qb0gmwo3_r1_400.jpg
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
http://pixieorsomething.tumblr.com/post/51069131125/game-of-thrones-s03-my-understanding-so-far
okay, wait, is this not running tonight?
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 May 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
Memorial Day, and Liberace.
― llama del rey (Leee), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
yeah hbo always skips big weekend holidays which is odd cuz that's such an old network mentality and hbo famously isn't even out for night of broadcast viewers anyway. no spoilers but i will advise ppl that they will want to watch the next episode as soon as it is broadcast and that they will otherwise want to stay the hell away from the internet until they do get to see it.
― balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/be6c2dcbdb270ea7341f193766cb8a57/tumblr_mnfphz8f971qbypg1o1_500.jpg
You know, the wardrobing isn't all that different, tbh.
― llama del rey (Leee), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link
Better yet: http://www.earlyword.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/movies_behind-the-candleabra.jpg
― llama del rey (Leee), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link
xp they didn't skip memorial weekend last year and the result was super-low ratings for the 'biggest' episode of the season
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah i guess i can't blame them then
― balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link
Edmure's wedding is on tonight's episode, I'm sure it will be super romantic! <3 <3 <3
― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Pffft, sentimental woman, I only care if his bride is hot.
― Ou sont les Sonneywolferines d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link