Talking Heads' More Songs About Buildings and Food Poll

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That's why I really like the True Stories film as a kind of not-quite-so subtle manifestation of his lyrics into a movie. It's a celebration of the mundane, not of the futuristic but of the present - treating shopping malls, mobile homes, project management, computer chips as works of artisanship. Kind of saying that in the future our architects and designers will be praised much in the same way as the ancient architects of the past.

On the other hand the tongue's also firmly in cheek. The natural "beauty" of a metal container is through its functionality and its function is to contain. There's that wonderful bit in the film where the business owner sits down with his family at the table and does a crazy choreographed serving routine that explains the structure of his business model with the different foods. I think I read something somewhere about Byrne's vision being "so normal it's crazy", and I totally agree with and love that aesthetic.

the next grozart, Monday, 16 February 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Aw man, messed around with that for 10 minutes before I read this:

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Hrm.

There's that wonderful bit in the film where the business owner sits down with his family at the table and does a crazy choreographed serving routine that explains the structure of his business model with the different foods.

Spalding Grey. Yes. Wonderful bit.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Monday, 16 February 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I will grant that "Found a Job" is the most 77-like song on the record. But the rest of it is borderline sinister. And then there's "Take Me To the River," which is just off the freakin' map.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Monday, 16 February 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Gahhhhh this thread makes me want to listen to this album NOW. And my iPod and headphones are right in front of me, bbut I'm in my extremely shite work and can't. Frustrating.

Found A Job, FWIW.

Chris in Belfast, Monday, 16 February 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

See, I got the "Take me to the river" double single. "Found a job" on b-side, and "Love->Building and "Psycho Killer" on the other single.

How was that package not bought by *everyone* I'll never know...

But that's why I like "Found a job", even though I never bought "MSABAF"...

Mark G, Monday, 16 February 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

"Pretty soon now, I will be bitter."

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"I don't have to prove that I am creative."

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Friday, 20 February 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

If I could vote over, I would go with "The Big Country". I just listened to the album and read the lyrics. I've always liked Talking Heads' slow country songs.

"Take Me to the River" always seemed out of place on this record, it was such a big radio hit and sounds more like Fear of Music.

drunk dudes NOTM (james k polk), Friday, 20 February 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Great album...The only I'm not keen on is 'Take Me to the River'.

Weird to see that '77 photo in this thread...I used to be really fixated on Tina in the 77 cover photo when I was very young, and turned out gay.

"And you may ask yourself - well...how did I get here?" - indeed.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 February 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

heh... Tina looks as boyish as any of them in that photo! Ah, youth.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening again and I wish I would have voted for Warning Sign. That little two-note guitar part on the verses "Right when David's singing 'Warning sign! Warning sign!'" into the sliding syncopated chords is so beautiful. And like Kenan said, SCARY. What a great song. I still Found a Job though. The only way it could possibly be improved is if they would have made it the first track of side B instead of the last of side A. It would have made such a perfect opener for a side!

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Play Find the Typo in that paragraph. Hint: there are 32.

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

are nwot.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I always appreciated Sand in the Vasline for including the non-single "Warning Sign" -- it was the extra bit of taut weirdness that convinced me to buy the damn thing.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

And for Sugar on my Tongue.

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Saturday, 21 February 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Its a matter of degrees
And that's true
That's true
It's taken to extremes
and that's why we work so hard to
Take that love away

^^^ The theory of emotional relativity

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Saturday, 21 February 2009 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

stay hungrayyyyyyyyyy

s1ocki kong country (cankles), Saturday, 28 February 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I searched out this thread to revive it and...apparently make the same comments I already made almost a year ago. Good lord I love this album. Things are puttering along nicely until musical satan descends upon the scene and possesses Talking Heads starting in the last minute of "The Good Thing":


So I say:
I have adopted this and made it my own:
Cut back the weakness, reinforce what is strong.

"Warning Sign" starts after exactly a bar of empty space, and is creepy as fuck. Putting aside the lyrics, listen on headphones with the volume turned up and witness the really subtle swirling backward vocals leading into each phrase. At first I tended to agree with the person upthread who thought that Eno's presence on this album was largely unnoticeable, but after about the billionth listen his influence is apparent. "Girls Want To Be With The Girls" is a fine song, but to be honest for me its primary value is to serve as the perfect setup for "Found a Job", which again starts after a 4 beat pause and makes people shit their pants.

I love MSABAF more and more with each year, and now it's my favorite. One of the best things about Talking Heads is that each one of their first four albums have been my favorite at some point, and each time I couldn't conceive of a way that it could be any other way. What a great band.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Saturday, 9 January 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Gackazoid. Bottom seven songs are the whole entire reason this album rules. Single vote getter "With Our Love" is merely the greatest TH song ever & one of the greatest period (period). "Found a job" is the merest of conceptual clams next to the pink hearts exploding "girls want to be with the girls" but when they don't

fuh-huh-huh-huh-huckle-fuck-already

No wonder "Remain in Light" keeps winning polls as best Talking Heads record: because of this most utter fuckerottering tastelessness. If David Byrne comes from somewhere between Jonathan Richman and the Africanized future of pop music (that future that was expected, that future that didn't actually happen,) then the best songs on MSAB&F are the place where he owes nothing to nobody and, more importantly, where the Talking Heads as a band playing together show off their utterly original, dare-taking synthesis of KC & The Sunshine Band & Modern Lovers in the most utterly realized way. It's the second best record Eno was ever involved with after Another Green World.

{& this was the final VP pest at aye el ex}

Vic Perry, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

I first discovered TH in a kind of bulk-buy of albums, starting with SMS and then acquiring all their albums in rapid succession. As such, I never really managed to separate a lot of the material form the first few albums - they all seemed to work together in a kind of temporal soup. But now I'm going through each album in chronological order, their career arc is starting to make much more sense and this is maybe song-for-song one of their best. I especially like the bassline towards the end of The Big Country.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 12 November 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah and Warning Sign and Stay Hungry are both fab.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 12 November 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

i love that every song on this got a least one vote. such a great album that i only discovered a few years back, probably 2008 or so.

probably going to spin this tonight because of this bump.

Bee OK, Thursday, 15 November 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link

To help keep be focused, me and my guitar teacher have been going through the first three albums track by track. Some strange stuff going on here, especially as far as the song structures go. This is my fave of the first three.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 November 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

Me focused, not be focused.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 November 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

That's a great idea. I'd love to do something similar with bass guitar.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 15 November 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

"warning song" = weirdest song about sex ever.

i've been listening to the 1975 cbs demos thing a lot recently, which interestingly has like all the songs from 77 and about half of this one it; angel, girls, stay hungry, with our love, warning sign. crazy that they had already written so many of their hits 2 years before the first album was even released. demo version of "thank you for sending me an angel" is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_R3WYryz3Y

flopson, Thursday, 27 June 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i feel like that was pretty typical back, when back-to-back albums were common and people weren't burning off material on b-sides and side projects all the time -- lotta people built up a catalog before getting a record deal that it took 2 or 3 albums to use up.

some dude, Thursday, 27 June 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

typical back THEN

some dude, Thursday, 27 June 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

my cardboard fliptop double sire cassette of 77/msabaf from about 82 or 83 is now some rosebud level shit in my memory banks.

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Thursday, 27 June 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link

They'd been performing pretty much all of 77/More Songs live before 77 even dropped.

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 June 2013 09:29 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, there's a fan letter in the liner notes to Sand In The Vaseline wherein the writer lists their fave Heads songs (all from MSAB&F), cncluding "I hope you make an album."

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 June 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

loved how "Warning Sign" shows up on SITV.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:24 (ten years ago) link

i've been listening to the 1975 cbs demos thing a lot recently, which interestingly has like all the songs from 77 and about half of this one

Haven't played those demos in a while but aren't there actually more MSABAF songs on it than '77 songs?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link

I think it wasn't until "Fear of Music" that a lot of their stuff was jammed out in the studio and sort of assembled later, which partly explains the really weird structures, especially once you get to "Remain in Light." If you've ever seen a band cover (or been in a band covering) "Once in a Lifetime," it's almost impossible to tell where the "one" on the measure is.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

I assumed that was down to listening to Fela Kuti

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

5. The Girls Want to Be With the Girls 1
7. Artists Only 1
2. With Our Love 1

robbed!

piscesx, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

girls are getting into
abstract analysis; they want to
make that intuitive leap!
they're making plans with
far-reaching effects!

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

this is my most listened to Talking Heads album at the moment. also doing a Talking Heads poll sometime in the year 2020.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link

my cardboard fliptop double sire cassette of 77/msabaf from about 82 or 83 is now some rosebud level shit in my memory banks.

I had that cassette. And likewise about the rosebud effect.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

it was fuschia and turquise you know.

updates from chuck and betty (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

or turquoise or whatever, with a big number _2_.

updates from chuck and betty (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link

This has fast become like, my joint second favourite TH studio album.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 09:19 (nine years ago) link

the best thing about it is how short the gaps between the tracks are. a real sense of urgency.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 09:19 (nine years ago) link

both the first 2 albums are such GREAT guitar records. The way the guitars are arranged, the way they're played, the way they're recorded. I like the fourth world funk dream stuff that came after but their sound on the first records is even more special to me. Meat Puppets Up On The Sun has that same clean, interlocked ecstatic sound.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

xpost just as rosebud for me was the special walkman I always played it on. It was the first walkman that was barely bigger than the tapes that went in it. Silver. My friend who was kind of a klepto stole it from me (I know he did). Its constant inhabitants were the 77/Buildings & Food 2fer and this weird Iggy cassette that mixed up tracks from New Values, Soldier and Zombie Birdhouse. And PiL generic.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

This one! Rosebud...

http://www.oobject.com/12-vintage-walkmans/wm-10-foldout-tiny-walkman/5510/

I bought it with my paper route money

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

xxp i must check that Meat Puppets album.

piscesx, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

It's not their only great album but it's the only one that has that particular sound. Definitely my favorite of all 80s US indie albums, even edging out double nickels and new day rising.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

oh, yeah, i had that walkman too, precisely like that picture, gold and red!

updates from chuck and betty (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link


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