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goole, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

would not be shocked if the general public dgaf about this

Spectrum, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

yep

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

unless it comes out that the white house was spying on kim kardashian or something

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

Edward Snowden: saving us from the United Stasi of America

Comment is free

Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

completely invisible in obama's approval rating

and fuck the general public, they are morons u know

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

I know you've gone hoarse explaining these subtleties to the great moronic public.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Perhaps, it is because I never really lived in an internet free-world (the web arrived when I was 7) but am I the only one who doesn't really care about it? or at least isn't surprised?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

if Joe/Jane Average actually found fault with O for this, let's all say their #1 solution together: "Let's 'lect a 'Publican." xp

This is not about SURPRISE; abuses become more concrete when one knows the details.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

My reaction has been: after "Breaking Bad" and "The Wire" and Tony Scott movies, the federal government considers this spymaster horseshit worth keeping top secret? Only in a land where a million people boast top secret clearance.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

high quality tv shows like breaking bad and the wire keep the american public up to date on important issues but also keep them blissfully content

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

if we want an angry and activist public we need worse tv shows

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

worse cable TV shows

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

This is really no big deal until the first person gets wrongfully accused by the NSA and thrown in the hoosegow. When that happens, call me. 1-800-WATERFACE

waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

mad men is possibly the biggest threat to democracy since seinfeld

iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

would not be shocked if the general public dgaf about this

bcz they lack the imagination to understand how this info could be used against them. the average american thinks they are of no interest to the government, but when you combine this program with a few of the overly broad federal laws already on the books and you have the makings of a turnkey police state.

Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/

TLDR article re why privacy matters even if you have nothing to hide

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

What a perv

One can usually think of something that even the most open person would want to hide. As a commenter to my blog post noted, "If you have nothing to hide, then that quite literally means you are willing to let me photograph you naked? And I get full rights to that photograph—so I can show it to your neighbors?"

waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

"quite literally"

waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

there are lots of alternatives to "the general public dgaf about this"
- they don't know about it yet
- they don't understand it yet
- as was noted, the polling numbers don't reflect a reaction yet
this stuff came out, what, a week ago? it takes time for responses/reactions to build. but it is easier to feel superior to strawmen i guess

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

xposts

I think a lot of people understand how this info could be used against them, it is news after all. The thing is, I have no idea how to escape this, I am facebook and google user so I've pretty much accepted that my data is somewhere I don't really know and could be used against me at any times, since what? 7 years? more? People I know who really care about this stuff uses terms like sheeple and dabble in the dark arts of facebook macros. So I guess it's more about feeling specifically powerless, especially when you live outside of the US, cause we didn't even elect those administrations.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

we can't invite Muslim friends over to watch Breaking Bad episodes anymore

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link

right, i guess another option is
- they give a fuck about it but don't know what they can do about it
which includes me

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

the general public already kinda figures that the governement does whatever the fuck it wants. they're good with it.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

for some reason wasn't the case in 1974

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

ie the peak of this country

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

Watergate was the peak of this country? Interesting.

waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

no sending Shitface off in the copter was

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

that wd be a good name for u btw, free advice

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

it took more than two years after the watergate arrests for nixon to resign

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link

Cool

copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore

U a Billy Joel fan bro?

copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

in january 1973, which was seven months after the watergate arrests, nixon had a 67 percent approval rating

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

now if the government were secretly delaying the arrival of the new Xbox system we might see some angry mobs.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

trenchant

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

ppl do figure this stuff isn't likely to ever affect them, which is correct

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

or PS 4. which i think we may go for. it plays blu-ray, right? i might consider getting all the president's men on blu-ray.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

yes, this has to be a story (ooooh NARRATIVE) for months to come.

Unfortunately, both parties in lockstep supporting this and national attention span is 83 seconds so u know.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

i'm always shocked by the amount of people who fall off of turnip trucks on a daily basis. the whole CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? outrage junkie response. can we believe it? you betcha. kinda figured it was happening all along for decades. is there any reason to believe that any part of the world wide web is off limits to the u.s. govt? or any cell phone. or anything? they can snatch you out of your bed at night, what's a cell phone call? #crustpunx4truth

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

goddamn lazy average american unwilling to grumble on a music forum

da croupier, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

ah yes such an insightful point it needed to be made for a thousandth time

k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

this does actually remind me of when people on my facebook post stories from the news that are like OMG can you believe the cops harrassed this guy because he was BLACK! no way! that is NOT what the police are supposed to do. and i honestly don't know what fucking planet they have come from.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

maybe outrage is just a commodity now. you can buy and sell it on the open market. the perfect capitalist trick.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link

the entitlement of internet users is also baffling.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, June 10, 2013 12:38 PM (3 minutes ago)

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Oh+I+see+you+have+a+repost+there+_922e03588f1f114a55bfd4c3bda95086.jpg

k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

"maybe" its a commodity. sorry, strike that maybe. and the "now" too.

scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.

Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

President Trump said on Saturday that he would consider pardoning Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who faced criminal charges after leaking classified documents about vast government surveillance.

“There are many, many people — it seems to be a split decision — many people think that he should be somehow be treated differently and other people think he did very bad things,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “I’m going to take a very good look at it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/us/politics/trump-snowden-esper.html

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

I. Just. Can’t.

Congratulations GOP. This is who you are now. https://t.co/CAE98A7qjV

— Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) August 16, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 August 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Who?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3g8wb/hacker-got-my-texts-16-dollars-sakari-netnumber

It costs around $16 to steal anyone's SMS account, which can then be used to hijack their other accounts.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

In utterly non-shocking news:

Edward Snowden swears allegiance to Russia and receives passport, lawyer says

Edward Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor who leaked information about U.S. surveillance programs, swore an oath of allegiance to Russia and has collected his Russian passport, his lawyer told state media on Friday.

“Edward received a Russian passport yesterday and took the oath in accordance with the law,” lawyer Anatoly Kucherena said, according to Russia’s Interfax news agency. “He is, of course, happy, thanking the Russian Federation for the fact that he received citizenship,” he continued. “And most importantly, under the Constitution of Russia, he can no longer be extradited to a foreign state.”

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 December 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link


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