omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

or PS 4. which i think we may go for. it plays blu-ray, right? i might consider getting all the president's men on blu-ray.

yes, this has to be a story (ooooh NARRATIVE) for months to come.

Unfortunately, both parties in lockstep supporting this and national attention span is 83 seconds so u know.

i'm always shocked by the amount of people who fall off of turnip trucks on a daily basis. the whole CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? outrage junkie response. can we believe it? you betcha. kinda figured it was happening all along for decades. is there any reason to believe that any part of the world wide web is off limits to the u.s. govt? or any cell phone. or anything? they can snatch you out of your bed at night, what's a cell phone call? #crustpunx4truth

goddamn lazy average american unwilling to grumble on a music forum

ah yes such an insightful point it needed to be made for a thousandth time

http://d.wapday.com/animation/ccontennt/13165-f/coach_blowing_whistle.gif

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

this does actually remind me of when people on my facebook post stories from the news that are like OMG can you believe the cops harrassed this guy because he was BLACK! no way! that is NOT what the police are supposed to do. and i honestly don't know what fucking planet they have come from.

maybe outrage is just a commodity now. you can buy and sell it on the open market. the perfect capitalist trick.

the entitlement of internet users is also baffling.

my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, June 10, 2013 12:38 PM (3 minutes ago)

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"maybe" its a commodity. sorry, strike that maybe. and the "now" too.

Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.

Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.

even in that guy's video interview he's like they'll be able to use your past phone conversations against you and make a case even if you did nothing wrong. law enforcement does that every damn day! they don't need your damn cellphone calls! #edangerlives

even THAT guy lives in la la land and he's the whistler. well, he is 29. what does he know about anything...

yes, really, let's feel "entitled" to what the Constitution guarantees us. Jesus Christ you ppl

I do have a renewed appreciation of middle-class cynics being an essential Democratic-voter set after deluded liberals, so thx Snowden.

It's sad. It was a Bill of Rights.

this is for you morbz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mCC1wktIZ0

also it's funny to be 'confronted' about issues like this by a Brzezinski

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/glenn-greenwald-spars-on-morning-joe-92479.html

yes, really, let's feel "entitled" to what the Constitution guarantees us. Jesus Christ you ppl

lol like guns, amirite

also slaves

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.html
http://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q113.html
http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html
http://www.justia.com/constitutional-law/docs/privacy-rights.html

Of the various things that have been found to be covered by the Constitution by the Supreme Court, "who you've been talking to" isn't listed.

However, there is a rebuttal: http://harrybrowne.org/articles/PrivacyRight.htm

I think there was an amendment I saw in some movie last Christmas....xp

"a well-regulated militia" xxp

I can't watch that clip right now, Comrade Scott, but I'll boot it up at the cell metting tnite.

Gen Keith Alexander, head of the NSA: “The great irony is we’re the only ones not spying on the American people.”

Disregarding the blatant untruth of this statement he made to Congress a couple of weeks ago, this idiot seems to think that this would, if it hadn't been a bald lie, be a merely ironic happenstance, rather than a fundamental distinction. The Chinese don't make or enforce the laws that govern us. The Germans don't. The Russians don't. The Brits don't. Google doesn't. Apple doesn't.

Combining indiscriminate and near-universal survelliance with the power to imprison or execute creates an entirely different entity from those other ones he was referring to. That's no irony. That's a vital safeguard.

i think i get where you are coming from DJP but honestly i think the task at hand is to link the NSA story to, say, this one:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/lawsuit-mississippi-prison-mentally-ill

...which is that in the name of public safety, the appointed "guards" can do whatever they want

fyi that link needs whatever trigger warning nsfsanity ruinyourday tags you can throw on it

the constitution does not actually guarantee guns fyi

p. sure it guarantees one (1) per customer, please show up at city hall between 11am - 3pm for yours

that is my fave law enforcement trick, by the way. tell people with outstanding warrants that they have money waiting for them and then they come and get it and blammo! into the pokey. that's just good old-fashioned trickery. i think i saw that in a movie...

It's the one where the gangsters all get free tickets to the Yankees game and blammo!

i love that trick!

hey i'm here for my free motor boat...hey forgeddaboutit!!!! wait was it the simpsons where it was a free motor boat? best trick.

i have offered that deal

xp yes, which leads to the police manhandling Homer, who shouts, "Hey! My boating arm!"

even THAT guy lives in la la land and he's the whistler. well, he is 29. what does he know about anything...

a guy who works for Booz Allen probably doesn't have much first hand experience of the criminal justice system

this is a weird opinion piece by jeffrey toobin

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/06/edward-snowden-nsa-leaker-is-no-hero.html

it's not wrong but it seems to be totally missing the point

toobin is a disgusting jerk imo

that toobin piece is such bullshit

first of all, he apparently finds the idea that snowden might have had complex motives for releasing the NSA documents shocking! utterly shocking!

then, he makes out like this has any bearing on anything.

finally, there's this helpful suggestion to future snowdens:

they can take advantage of federal whistle-blower laws; they can bring their complaints to Congress; they can try to protest within the institutions where they work.

b/c that's worked out so well under the obama administration

fuck this guy

He is, rather, a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison.

Toobin was on CNN last week saying the same nonsense last week before Snowden revealed himself

He is, rather, a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison.

i love how the implication here is that his supposed "grandiose narcissism" is what should land him in prison

if that were true, 2/3 of political bloggers would be in guantanamo

^^^ tempting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgN6xkfgvls

http://bit.ly/16XNszo

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Roughly a quarter (27%) of Americans say they are following news about the government collecting Verizon phone records very closely. This is a relatively modest level of public interest. Only another 21% say they are following this fairly closely, while about half say they are following not too (17%) or not at all (35%) closely

WHY ? • 12 hours ago −

Edward Snowden, great American hero and true patriot. Thank you Mr. Snowden....stay safe & God Bless.

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i guess that shows how far "the internet" skews off IRL?