HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

Oh yeah, was wondering that as well.

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i'm curious if Roose knows that his bastard is writing letters to the Greyjoys, making demands etc.

don't think they made that clear. Bolton told Walder Frey "but my bastard has his own way of doing things" and then they cut right to the pork sausage scene. def. implied that he knows about the torture but maybe not about the letters, i dunno.

Yeah the context of that remark was both the taking of Winterfell and Theon torture. I'm sure Greyjoy threat requires Rooses input.

My impression was that now that Bolton is the Warden of the North, he's letting Ramsay take care of the Ironborn problem.

xpost No, he's pretty excruciatingly tortured in the books too.

He is, but iirc it kinda happens mostly in flashback? Or at least with Reek remembering it, as opposed to actual flashback. Maybe I've got that wrong.

But I think Forks has it pretty much right, these early stages of torture (as in, immediately post-capture) aren't shown so far as I recall.

straying close to non-TV show spoilers itt w/the reek chat

yeah its tough to get involved in the reek/ramsay storyline bc theon is a fuckin cunt, its heavy handed torture porn and it concerns a part of the world thats basically been looted and sacked and the owners of it all got murdered.

don't think this season was brilliant overall - still enjoyable but they're having problems telling all the stories at once, it could do with a few more episodes, the red wedding was obv shocking but that's just a one-off massive event which only serves to make it more uneven as a whole.

Anyone else notice how central crows/messages were in this episode? Balon mentions Theon killing all the crows in Winterfell, Measter Aemon asks how many crows they have before ordering them all sent out. We see their messages in the hands of Joffrey and Davos (which later saved his life).

Onion knight is the most likable character in the show.

...he's doomed...

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lol

man I would pay good money for some between-seasons Lone Hound and Pup like webisodes or something

<3 sandor clegane, grumpy killer dad so much

The rise and rise of Daenerys has been a bit too much of a walkover for me. I loved the unsullied liberation episode but it's been a piece of piss since then. It was obvious from the first scene her would-be assassin had the hots and would shit out, she hasn't been in any real peril and everything was easily won. Too much Triumphalist yaying going on for my liking. I get the feeling this was her League One promotion season and things will get more interesting next season. Grey Worm is awesome.

I love the burgeoning, improbable friendship between Sandor/Arya, it hasn't come easy and is genuinely touching. Also there isn't any of that risible dodgy Leon type shit or soppy shit to ruin it.

I like all the boring one-on-ones, but yeah, could totally have done without more Theon torture, and Dany's storyline bores me to tears.

I guess Jon Snow is going to live, huh? Boo! I am tired of looking at his simpering little sad muppet face.

The jumping around can get frustrating. I wish they would do a Very Special episode with nuttin but Lannisters.

Rogermexico otm

totally

I really liked the Hound/Sansa storyline in what I read of the books, I was kinda bummed they didn't do more with that in the show. Interested to see where the Hound/Arya story goes, lil baby badass in training

It was so great when she went ham on that dude. It was kind of awkward that the Hound didn't notice what she was doing, but then again maybe he did & he was just letting her do it and then pretending to be all tsk tsk.

I really enjoyed this one, felt like it was setting everything up really well for next year.

Presumably the Night's Watch are basically bros with everyone and the Lannisters will get a raven as well? Here's betting they ignore it.

Any scene with Tywin and Tyrion and Joffrey altogether is de facto the best in the episode. Also, Davos is a dude.

the "she's going to be such a badass" line has been getting a lot of play, and obv she was born with a natural inclination toward running with scissors, but i find it hard to celebrate her education.

given what she's seen (headless father sorta, countless tortures and cruelties, headless brother sorta) and what she's been through (flight, capture, imprisonment, threat of torture, threat of rape, forced servitude, flight, capture, abandonment by substitute family, flight capture, etc) what she's turning out to be is less a badass than a hollow bullet of rage and pain just looking for a direction to be fired in. hound could teach her a lot about picking your damn battles and thinking for god's sake at least one step ahead.

she'll certainly kill again, and from my seat in the audience i hope she'll achieve some spectacular vengeance before it's all over. but if she lives to 17 she is def going to date a lot of bad boys before she sorts herself out. if she's not already too far gone for sorting.

"hollow bullet of rage" is how i would interpret that character too but who knows what demon's lurk in the GRRM mind

(demon's soul joke maybe too esoteric there never mind)

captain save-an-arya xxp

kid has a hitlist and she's how old?

badass

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ygrette shooting john snow full of arrows was so good and lol

ygrette shooting john snow full of arrows was so good and lol

I was mentally yelling at her, "IN HIS PRETTY FACE DAMMIT, IT'LL STICK THAT WAY."

i find it hard to celebrate her education.

I was actually bored by the stabby, it was a lot more invigorating in the books. Also, as this is fiction, I'm less inclined to be moralistic here.

oh god Rob's body/head thing might have been more traumatising than the damn red wedding.

OTM, but IMO this was a LOT more disturbing in the book, at least how I pictured it.

I was actually bored by the stabby, it was a lot more invigorating in the books

agree

Also, as this is fiction, I'm less inclined to be moralistic here

am i taking a tone? fwiw i certainly don't see this as a question of right or wrong, just its sad bc if things had been different she might have been a girl.

BOO TO THAT ROGERMEXICO

I'm trying to avoid getting too much farther into the books, but there's a thread in teh fandoms about how Arya's storyline isn't COOL BUTTKICKING GIRL GETTING HER BUTTKICKING ON, no, she's the child soldier whose psyche has been horribly distorted by the violence she inhabits, that your aside references, but I want to revel in the former without complications! And my out is that it's a story, and I can happily wallow in my shallowness.

I would say Arya's arc is going to be a tragedy but if the alternative is her following Sansa's route then idk. Westeros just seems a shitter for all involved.

or a "shifter", I guess.

lol

Eh don't mind me, I'm just airing some percolating stuff to avoid finishing a review for something else right now.

roose bolton is gleefully evil, i loved his little scene w/walder. barely concealed contempt, humoring the old psycho, pretty pleased with himself overall.

glad the direwolf head/stark body thing was in the show.

xpost oh i have no idea what the internets have to say about any of this beyond this thread. i think i dipped in once a while back but had to flee bc too much stupid

never mind jon snow, her hair was too orangey for crows

this was a satisfactory closer/prelude but i did miss a bit of littlefinger craftiness somewhat

as epically cringe as the daenerys scene was this show knows damn well they can get away with anything if it ends with a dragon flying @ u face screeching

In that case I am glad they didn't try to get away with a whole penis chopping off scene because that technique would have made the experience even more horrifying and also confusing.

Got to have the dungeons, if you want the dragons. GRRM, he doesn't make the rules.

The rise and rise of Daenerys has been a bit too much of a walkover for me

Weird how no one has bothered to even be particular suspicious of that grey haired dude who just turned up and started hanging out with them and has so far played no discernable plot function.

Barristan Selmy? That's probably got something to do with his being pitched as a legendary ideal of nobility and heroism unfairly cast aside by King Cnut.

There was a fear from Jorah that he knew that he was spying on Dany for a time.

He's so dumpy I still have trouble buying that he is some legendary warrior. Blackfish is much more believable as a badass old guy warrior.

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note the writer.

i was hoping for Jonah Lehrer but this is arguably even better

what the

waht?

must be someone else?

yeah probably but lol if that's his secret side gig