The Hobbit films, previously to be directed by Guillermo del Toro and now to be directed by Peter Jackson again.

The only thing that could likely get me to see this after sitting through The Hobbit is if Peter Jackson bred himself a real, live dragon.

what, like a fathered a dragonchild? thats p gross

"Peter Jackson and Guillermo del Toro would like to announce..."

...Pacific Rim Job.

xpost Ha!

Dragon sex will be the next big thing for rich people after space gets boring.

"About 135,000,000 results (0.25 seconds) "

Ah, of course, Cosmo's got you covered:

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/positions/the-dragon-sex-position

Thx for googling so that I don't have to.

Dragon sex:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3DxZt7DXf8E7uW5VetxWy_MiRBbf2RD2TBq-o8UOzIudBGgC9

Hey, baby, how about a little dragon head?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0lQ4z7we9Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qrgbIP7Vvc4#t=186s

Holy shit, did you dredge up that Wizard People bit from memory?!

i've um heh seen it a lot

the number of articles i've seen praising GoT for being more 'adult' and 'complex' than tolkien (salon ran one of these the other day) have pretty much killed any interest i had in seeing or reading it (which was minimal to start with).

yesterday I was idly wondering if you could chart some audience-aging trajectory from Harry Potter to GoT. idg people's fascination with this crap tbh. Tolkien is on another level but these Hobbit movies look so far removed from what made them work idgaf about them either.

like young fans that grew up on Harry Potter are now ready for SERIOUS fantasy ie rape and boobs and beheadings and shit

Back in the seventies and eighties we only had Gor.

it is generally a pretty orwellian use of the word "adult"

i dunno i'd rather just read about actual medieval history, that shit is way more dark and fascinating than any contrived swords n' sorcery claptrap.

Back in the seventies and eighties we only had Gor.

did people not take Conan seriously

i dunno i'd rather just read about actual medieval history,

yeah me too. I watched the first two seasons of GoT and they were okay, I didn't particularly care about anyone involved and it just seemed like it was going to be an endless slog of power struggles requiring no real resolution. also boobs.

i just wish he were more into the english civil war than the wars of the roses

also kinda annoyed me that it's not really *about* anything...? like it has no thematic structure, it's just a bunch of shit that happens via quest for power. You could say that Sopranos is about family, or the nature of evil, or late-period capitalism; Breaking Bad is about nihilism/the death wish; Mad Men is about the social transformations of the sixties, American capitalism, etc. GoT is about nothing afaict.

and that's why

GoT = secretly Seinfeld

Misunderstandings leading to extreme consequences; many plots would not work if there were cell phones.

Abusive power-mad dictators handing out scraps to underlings who fight for them.

Sex, in various combinations.

etc. etc.

those are plot mechanics, not underlying themes

I would take this to the GoT thread but everyone would just be yelling at me to read the books/watch s3, I suspect

i wish more ppl talked about the english civil war. learning about it was kinda my biggest revelation as a history major, i literally can't remember ever hearing about it in any history class i'd ever taken before college.

I remember learning about Cromwell and the Roundheads, we probably spent a week on it in AP English or something iirc

er AP History that is

those are plot mechanics, not underlying themes

Seinfeld is rather famously a show about nothing, he said, explaining the joke.

are you really gonna get me started on Seinfeld

Please tell me you didn't like Seinfeld, I will feel that much less alone in the world.

according to larry david the actual seinfeld concept was 'where a comedian gets his ideas from,' and they just pushed the 'show about nothing' stuff to the media because it sounded catchier

xps to jd: well, high school history. i was kicked out of honors history freshman year of high school for poor grades so i'm sure my friends got a better education than i did over the next three years, but i learned nothing. like literally not anything at all. (said this before but once we watched spartacus cuz we were doing the spartans.) my sophomore u.s. history teacher was this older guy who banged his fist on the desk exactly once on the second or third day because everyone was being an asshole and yelled (this is still rly vivid and sad) "this is MY CLASS!" and then never did anything like that again and let everybody walk all over him for the rest of the term while we crawled through one of those empty u.s. history textbooks and nobody paid any attention or learned anything. once i went into a bar(/grill) with my dad and saw him there, and he left. so yeah i was not taught about the english civil war either. (except by my mom, but i didn't listen.)

i think i want to teach high school history.

Please tell me you didn't like Seinfeld, I will feel that much less alone in the world.

Neither did I so I think we're all united, actually.

It has its moments but it is invariably ruined by Kramer, the most obnoxious variant of the "wacky neighbor" trope ever. I also think the "it's a show about nothing!" interpretation is just a marketing angle designed to obfuscate the fact that it's actually a show about misanthropy and alienation, made especially clear in its final episode. I don't hate the show as much as I used to - it's occasionally amusing.

xp

'where a comedian gets his ideas from,' = misanthropy and alienation

I rest my case

Curb Your Enthusiasm, now there's a good show.

i had an 8th grade teacher who did some great units on nazi germany and the civil rights movement but yeah, apart from that history was a total boring blur for me until senior year of HS when i got obsessed with it after reading james loewen's 'lies my teacher told me' (which i still rate as one of the best ways to get obsessed with history).

i can't really get with 'curb,' larry david playing larry david is so much less interesting than jason alexander playing 'larry david.'

People consider GoT adult and complex? I think it's totally hilarious (the show and the opinion). A great soap opera with beheadings and boobs and the occasional dragon or two.

I've avoided the GoT threads, btw, because I'm still catching up. But I think it's a hoot. Mostly well acted and extremely well executed in service of totally silly sword and sometimes sorcery stuff. I love its embrace of grime and bad things happening to good and bad people alike. The Hobbit movie is just so bright and mechanical compared to pretty people rolling around in the mud and blood.

i dunno i'd rather just read about actual medieval history, that shit is way more dark and fascinating than any contrived swords n' sorcery claptrap.

i'm willing to bet that there are some people who read both

Curb is great but it is also 90% people yelling at each other. Seinfeld at least knows how to have fun.

Yeah, those bombadil scenes were a bit silly, but I always liked what he signified for the mythos.

The shape and history of that world is mapped out so exhaustively, from the creator god down to the smallest of small details. And just when you think it's all pretty much pinned down and you know where you stand, along comes bombadil to upset the apple cart. Tolkien basically pulls the rug out from underneath the whole hierarchy that he created. I mean, I wish TB didn't sing so much, but I like his status as more or les the only total mystery in his universe.

Fwiw thought this film was excellent in places but a bit of a drag over 3 hours, same as most everyone else it seems.

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