Macklemore, "Same Love"

Except that Macklemore is worse than Tone Loc for any possible reason you could come up with.

along these lines, it cracked me up that "Afternoon Delight" was an AM easy listening staple when I was younger once I was old enough to get the lyrics

all the articles critical of "same love" i have seen are completely filled w/ comments by ppl defending it, claiming the author of the piece is stupid or ignorant or a bad writer (the latter always cracks me up b/c the comments are not very well written themselves), etc. :\\\\\

Indeed. Karen Tongson, who wrote the (quite excellent) article the Rev linked a few posts back, put up a response on FB about that kind of reaction.

to me i think its a weird/cool sign of progress that the al madrigal thing is a mexican american dad kvetching over raunchy lyrics by a white rapper

along these lines, it cracked me up that "Afternoon Delight" was an AM easy listening staple when I was younger once I was old enough to get the lyrics

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like all children, i assume, i thought afternoon delight was about spaceships

I wondered why my mom would giggle when I sang along and refused to harmonize with me; later on, I looked back on that decision and realized exactly how wise my mother actually was.

Thanks, Daniel Stern.

I agree w/Karen Tongston & I know what she's saying but I gave a big involuntary privileged eyeroll to "CHANGE HETEROSEXUALITY"

I think I've posted this elsewhere, but when he was 4 or 5, one of my kid's favorite songs was 3 by Britney Spears. I mean, it really has a certain appeal for people with rudimentary math skills.

Crut, I wanted a further elaboration on that as well.

"...dare to imagine beyond a certain kind of normativity, and challenge the power that adheres to these very categories"

Is this part, which directly follows "Change Heterosexuality", not a (brief) explanation of what she means?

idk. it's probably best that I don't explain why that rubbed me the wrong way because it's not really relevant that it rubbed me the wrong way.

That isn't really an explanation, imo.

But also know, the phrase itself didn't rub me the wrong way. Just that she didn't explain it.

Same Love is #7 on Billboard's R&B/Hip-Hop Chart and rising. I'm preparing myself now for all the think pieces about ~What It Means For Hip-Hop~.

you're literally a year too late for that

Before the chatter was about whether hip-hop was finally ready or whatever, and mostly about patting Macklemore on the back for his daring, but at the time the song wasn't actually making any waves in hip-hop or having any notable impact on hip-hop charts or radio. Whereas now (according to the way Billboard does the charts at least), the song is actually doing something, which could inspire another wave of navel gazing. Now that I check, it's not just rising on those chart's either. It gained a new peak on the Hot 100 too, is rising on itunes and is building on radio. It could become a legitimate hit, which is what it hadn't really been up to this point, despite being a much discussed song.

The 'daring' there should be in massive sarcasm quotes.

It's completely inescapable here right now :|

rising on the hot 100 = rising on r&b/hip-hop songs now, btw. the data used in both charts is now compiled in exactly the same way so they don't really represent anything different w/r/t audience anymore.

but yeah i am hearing the song on the radio more now and i have to bite my tongue in the car while my friends all praise it

about 5 of my friends seem to post this on FB every two weeks.

heard this on the radio today, it made me cry, omg i love weddings

the more i listen to it the more i can feel my support for gay men pulsating

there's a man on the radio saying "if i were gay", omg i love 2013 so much thanks obama!!

I deal with condescending white liberal Seattlites day in and day out and I have never, not even once when encountering these folks, thought to myself, "you should rap."

― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:40 PM Bookmark

qft

does anyone else listen to this song and just poop their pants

i played this song for my gay teacher and he started crying and i started crying and the whole class started crying and applauding me and my bravery and that's when the soviets finally attacked

when i grow up i want macklemore to eat my asshole

i think the level of hate being evinced for guy is kinda sad tbh

― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp)

i agree, the guy's not a great rapper or even a good one but his songs are catchy as hell. (i remember saying the same thing about jay-z at one point)

i have never heard "same love" but i read the lyrics and they seem pretty on-point for a chart rapper. rev i would be v interested to read your takedown.

haha i am realizing that if i like the hooks i should be praising ryan lewis? the guy looks like such an immense douche though. :(

i have never heard "same love" but i read the lyrics and they seem pretty on-point for a chart rapper.

It's a pretty corny song from a musical standpoint. But yeah, there's nothing wrong with the lyrics. I think there's a good argument that it would've been braver to have the hook sung by a dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUw4Qh9uFK8

heard this on the radio today, it made me cry, omg i love weddings

i agree, the guy's not a great rapper or even a good one but his songs are catchy as hell. (i remember saying the same thing about jay-z at one point)

O_O

emphasis on the content in parentheses

can i get a what what to these bitches from all of my uncles who don't love hoes, because they're homos

lol

Neanderthal you laugh but that was a pretty uncontroversial opinion for awhile; i don't take any credit for its originality

i agree, the guy's not a great rapper or even a good one but his songs are catchy as hell. (i remember saying the same thing about jay-z at one point)

i have never heard "same love" but i read the lyrics and they seem pretty on-point for a chart rapper. rev i would be v interested to read your takedown.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:31 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i am realizing that if i like the hooks i should be praising ryan lewis? the guy looks like such an immense douche though. :(

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:41 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

people upthread saying catchiness in music is unimportant made me wonder if i was reading an alternate universe ILM

it's making me wonder when the last time such an explicitly political protest song had some chart burn.

green day's politics are murky at best, and then We Are the World 25 or w/e?

Maybe Dixie Chicks' "Not Ready to Make Nice," which was 2006, but seems like an eon ago

I'm not really familiar with the lyrics, but didn't Born This Way cover similar ground?

The piano is playing "Waiting on the World to Change"

Or maybe it's "People Get Ready"

I think there's a good argument that it would've been braver to have the hook sung by a dude

how's life hates lesbians

"Born This Way" > this > "Where is the Love"

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Neanderthal you laugh but that was a pretty uncontroversial opinion for awhile; i don't take any credit for its originality

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh I know, I was actually one of those folks in my early 20s! well except that I hated him outright so I could listen to backpackers rap about the filthiness of tap water and how the periodic table was dope

did you

ok i figured it out, it was driving me nuts

"I Love College" by Asher Roth. it's in the same key and everything.