Shakespeare Films - S and D

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Very much yes to Throne Of Blood and Ran, and Chimes Of Midnight too. Why has no one else mentioned Peter Greenaway's version of The Tempest? Well I like it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 December 2002 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Julie Taymor's "Titus" -- maybe a bit long -- is charmingly gruesome and an outrageous rush.

Predictably, I thought this said "Tits". Comedy bedlam may now ensue.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 December 2002 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

thanks dakatin!!

kephm, Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

i enjoyed shakespare in love greatly, mostly for the wit of tom stoppard ie the john webster jokes- also the gender bending was hot.

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

like he had gywenth as a boy- unbound her breasts and then had her as a girl, a perfect idea for someone who was supposed to like both.

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 5 December 2002 20:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nearly 50 posts in, and no one's mentioned Vincent Price and Theatre of Blood yet? :)

Joe (Joe), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked the Zeferelli (sp?) Romeo and Juliet, although I saw it 20 (!) years ago. The two young leads seemed really in love, the boys all wore tights and had cute floppy haircuts, and you saw Romeo's butt.

Dakatin, what's your new name mean? I get sad when people don't return my emails; do you not answer to Erik anymore?

Sean (Sean), Friday, 6 December 2002 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Predictably, I thought this said "Tits".

Dan, do you read with your penis too?

Leee (Leee), Friday, 6 December 2002 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ya know, get all the best actors in all of the Hamlets in all of their various roles, and check them off against the dramatis personae.

Hamlet - um, Branagh. although I like Olivier's calmness and Gibson's antics.

Gertrude - they're all bags! Except Glenn Close. And the one from Hawke's.

Claudius - Kyle MacLachlan was interesting, but nobody is Derek Jacobi.

Ophelia - [Insert nubile hot babe here.]

Fortinbras - Rufus Sewell, by default!!!1

Laertes - who?

various lords, attendants, maids and servants - Billy Crystal.

The Ghost - Paul Scofield, in Gibson's

Osric - am I alone in thinking Robin Williams was okay in that role? Just okay, mebbe, not atrocious.

Polonius - lots to choose from here: Ian Holm, Bill Murray. Tough to do on film, methinks.

did I miss anybody?

Note: I have not seen the Russian version alluded to, but I have seen the Russian Lear (translated by Pasternak), and that's probably as good as Lear will get on film, imho.

weatheringdaleson, Sunday, 8 December 2002 09:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I sure hope Lawrence_Kansas comes by with a pun or two. Thanks the tip.
-w.

weatheringdaleson, Sunday, 8 December 2002 09:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

daleson, do you know who directed the russian lear, 'cause it's certainly the same man?

http://www.starkecounty.com/hamlet_statistics.gif

erik, Sunday, 8 December 2002 09:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grigor Kozintsev directed both films, aye? Then I shall have to bug the local library for a copy of the Dane's.

ADDENDUM: Godard's Lear WAS atrocious. All that time wasted waiting for Woody as the Fool? Gaaaagh! Burgess Meredith was good, but, aieeeee, total monkey business.

weatheringdaleson, Sunday, 8 December 2002 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kosintsev! yes, that's him! I think they have a copy of his Lear on video in the library here...but sadly not the one abt that dane :/

http://www.shakespearemag.com/images/lear1.jpg

erik, Sunday, 8 December 2002 10:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't have much hope for my library's success, either. And while I'm here, *Ran* was fantastic. The Fool was absolutely crazy and wonderful. Kozintsev's Fool does not disappear midway through, but comes back at the end playing the flute! Nice.

weatheringdaleson, Sunday, 8 December 2002 10:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kurosawa rules because he's prevented from being too literal. Welles might've beaten him if his budget stretched past papier-mache.

B.Rad (Brad), Sunday, 8 December 2002 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

if his budget stretched past papier-mache.

I like that phrase!

erik, Sunday, 8 December 2002 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
Tell me more about Godard's Lear! Is it completely indefensible?

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow no one mentioned Rozencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead on here.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i finally saw throne of blood recently and it is indeed pretty damn incredible. parts of it (the witch scene, the ending) actually improve on the original. #2 on my shakespeare fillum list (after chimes), easily.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Godard's King Lear is sort of a JOke, but far from his worst '80s film. For adaptations that 'loose, stick with Forbidden Planet!

Welles' Othello is even better than Chimes at Midnight.

The best Hollywood Shakespeare is likely the Julius Caesar with James Mason, Gielgud and Brando.

The Branagh Much Ado About Nothing isn't bad, esp Denzel, Emma and Keanu.

The best Olivier film I've seen is Richard III. (major source for Johnny Rotten)

I really hate Greenaway's Prospero's Books.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Polanski's Macbeth, anyone?
Thirded.



What's the verdict on Scotland, PA?

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Forbidden Planet!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Fucking hell, Derek Jarman's Tempest.

Total lurve for Branagh everything.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Michael Almereyda, who made a splendid modern corporate Hamlet film w/ Ethan Hawke no less, has done Cymbeline in a biker-gang world.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/film-comment-selects-2015-cymbeline

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

I'd like to see Godard's King Lear and also Peter Brook's version from '71.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

10 Things I Hate About You is clearly a vast improvement on the original.

I like 10TIHAY. That said, in my opinion it's a close second to the Pickford-Fairbanks Taming of the Shrew (1929).

Miss Anne Thrope (j.lu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link

Can anyone recommend a version of "A Midsummer Night's Dream"?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 March 2015 01:17 (nine years ago) link

have only seen the deHavilland-Cagney-Rooney one from the '30s, which is a mixed bag but worthwhile

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link

I need to see that anyways, that's the one Kenneth Anger says he was a child actor in.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 March 2015 03:43 (nine years ago) link

love Chimes at Midnight

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 March 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link

I've still never seen any of Welles's Shakespeare films.

Titus rocks. The Shakespeare scholar at my university agrees. I like Olivier's Hamlet a lot too.

And, not to be a killjoy, but it looks like we have reached a point where Ten Things I Hate About You is officially Overrated. It's far from awful, but c'mon.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 5 March 2015 04:13 (nine years ago) link

Cymbeline gettin divisive press

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/cymbeline

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link

I'd like to see Godard's King Lear and also Peter Brook's version from '71.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 5:15 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Paul Scofield is good in the Brook, but on the whole it's maybe a bit too chilly and spare (though it's been nearly 20 years since I saw it). def worth seeking out

rob, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, I like the idea of Peter Brook but I've yet to explore either his Shakeapeare or stuff like "Marat/Sade"

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:56 (nine years ago) link

Saw Godard's King Lear on its one week run in London at the old Cannon Swiss Centre cinema, back in the day. Only things I can remember about it are Woody Allen unexpectedly turning up (and having his speaking voice obscured on the soundtrack), Burgess Meredith (the quasi-Lear) saying, "Are you making a play for my daughter?" to the 'Shakespeare' character, and Godard wearing dreadlocks in his hair and playing 'Pluggy', "an eccentric professor obsessed with Xeroxing his own hand." (The whole wiki entry is worth a read - "The film earned $61,821 against an estimated budget of $2,000,000.") Now that Love Streams has been given the Criterion treament, maybe this will follow.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link

Ha, I (mis)read about this upthread and figured it had to be some joke post. (How could Molly Ringwald and Peter Sellers be in a movie together?

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

It's Peter Sellars the American theatre director, rather than Peter Sellers the English comic actor (who died in 1980).

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I read up on the facts after seeing the film's second mention upthread

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Only things I can remember about it are Woody Allen unexpectedly turning up (and having his speaking voice obscured on the soundtrack)

Woody has got to talk about this someday. Hopefully he'll be doing so from jail

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Almereyda's Cymbeline is pretty good! Hawke, Dakota Johnson, Ed Harris, Leguizamo, Delroy Lindo all fine.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

also Milla Jovovich sings Dylan's "Dark Eyes"

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Terrific production of KING LEAR on BBC4 last night. It's from 2018 I see.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Lear_(2018_film)

the pinefox, Monday, 27 April 2020 09:14 (four years ago) link

Missed it, I should pay more attention to BBC4's schedules.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 27 April 2020 09:55 (four years ago) link

it'll be on iplayer, i noted it was on but i was watching Wolf Hall at the time

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 April 2020 10:04 (four years ago) link

saw it on amazon prime last year, really fantastic

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 27 April 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

Yes!

I wish to watch all of WOLF HALL again soon.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

Was that BBC4 King Lear from 2018 the one with Anthony Hopkins?

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Monday, 27 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

Yes.

Caught the end of it last night. The guys in military uniforms seemed a bit too obvious an update.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 27 April 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link


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