Documentaries I have loved

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You'd have to go a long way to beat the first series of Fred Dibnah.

Peter Miller, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"The Thin Blue Line" (that's the 1988 Errol Morris doc with the Philip Glass score, not Ben Elton's lamentable attempt at a "Dad's Army for the 90s") is one of my very favourites.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Can I get an "Amen" re ,i>Hands on a Hardbody? It's a documentary about a radio-sponsored contest in a small town in Texas. Twenty people or so put a hand on a brand new pickup truck (the "hardbody") and the last one to take their hand off wins the truck. They only get a short break every few hours to eat, rest, etc. The contest lasts for DAYS, as the contestants try to stay conscious and win the truck. What makes the movie is the fact that some of the contestants are incredible storytellers, who have a complex strategy mapped out and take the contest very seriously (it is for a $20,000 truck, after all.) After-the-fact interviews are spliced with the contest footage. Pick it up if you see it.

Mark, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We had that over here, called Touch the Truck. I missed it, but I must say it does seem to have made quite a "this is the end of civilisation! cool!" impression on a number of people.

N., Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why would they change the title from "Hands on a Hardbody" to "Touch the Truck"? That's not nearly as snappy.

Mark, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is 'hardbody' a recognised synonym for a truck in the US? Over here it isn't so I fear it would have fallen foul of "wtf?" tv executives.

N., Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

One of the best documentaries I ever saw was "Five Hours In My Lai" which was about the My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War (when a load of American troops rampaged through a village raping anyone who looked female and then killing them and everyone else). It featured on camera interviews with several of the perpetrators, and also (shorter) interviews with soldiers who refused to take part in the atrocity (thereby disobeying orders) and some other heroic American soldiers who trained machine guns on fellow GIs to protect Vietnamese civilians.

The commander of the unit involved, and the man who ordered the massacre, was on Lt. Col. William Calley. He served one day in prison for his crimes, before Nixon commuted his sentence (or pardoned him, or something). He declined to be interviewed for the programme. One of the most eerie pieces of footage in the whole thing was some long range shots of him walking down some ordinary American high street.

DV, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is 'hardbody' a recognised synonym for a truck in the US?

If it is, I've never heard it before.

Sean, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nissan has a truck model called the "Hardbody."

Mark, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh my god! I can't believe I forgot "Paris Is Burning" -- move over, Friends Forever. "Paris is Burning" had me throwin' shade for weeks!

Mandee, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is 'hardbody' a recognised synonym for a truck in the US?

Yes. Most trucks over here are made from treated cloth and canvas.

Sherman's March was good, but in a real sickly kind of way. I have to see that again. I remember it seeming pretty humiliating for its director. It felt condescending too for some reason. Maybe I'm just being defensive about the South, but both Sherman's March and the Errol Morris one about the town in Florida have a Cohen-brother-style "aloof among idiots" tone. Though to be fair Errol Morris's great project seems to have become finding the most eccentric and intense people that he can.

Hoop Dreams is very good.

I've had many opportunities these days to remember a vivid doc I saw at the Walter Reade Theater 3 years ago, about the role of hijacking in modern geopolitics. At the show I saw the sound designer played the entire soundtrack LIVE - including transitions, fadeouts, FX, fuzz synth noise etc. with the volume turned up to 10. Here, I've found it -

dial H-I-S-T-O-R-Y(Johan Grimonprez, Belgium, 1997, 68 min.)

An eyepopping and mordant compendium of airplane hijackings and counter-terrorism set to texts from Don DeLillo's Mao II and White Noise and a remarkable music and sample collage by David Shea. This alternately heartbreaking and sardonic video is a tour through, in Grimonprez's words, "the media politics of contemporary catastrophe culture."

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jarvis Cocker's Outsider Art series.Made me Cry.Secret rulers of the world was pretty good (also Ronson's 'For the love of..'shows.Not quite a doc but 'historical reconstruction' and brilliant is Wiscosin Death Trip. Did anyone see the 'possessed 16 yr old girl in Tuscany' ("you shitty little priest!") one the other night? Pitch for channel 5: 'When pets go wrong!'

Evil Neilson, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This Is Spinal Tap.

nickn, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why would they change the title from "Hands on a Hardbody" to "Touch the Truck"? That's not nearly as snappy.

Perhaps I should point out here that Nick wasn't referring to the documentary you mention, but the British TV coverage of the same type of event. It was held in some big shopping centre, broadcast live at various points throughout the day on channel 5 and hosted by Dale Winton.

Of course, Hands On A Hardbody might also be the name of the competition in the US, in which case forget everything I just said.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I watched a documentary about the Avebury stone circle, that was good. It made my blood boil!

Peter Miller, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There were a couple of crackers on last night.

BBC2 had a repeat of "Challenger - Go for Launch" a documentary about the Challenger disaster. The way it followed the countdown to the launch was chilling. Some amazing quotes: "My wife asked how my day went. I sighed and said, "Well, it was fine. We had a meeting, and we're going to launch tomorrow and kill all the astronauts, but appart from that it was okay."" Most painful fact - post-crash investigations revealed that some of the astronauts would have been conscious on descent, and all were probably alive until the moment of impact with the sea.

Then Channel 4 had "Changing Sex" on the history of transsexual surgery which, while not for the squeamish, gave a fascinating insight into the subject. I had no idea, for instance, that female=>male transexuals would be able to have sex post-op. Although interestingly, the guy who seemed to be in the most stable relationship had opted not to have phallic construction, which raised quite a few more questions I wished the programme had investigated.

Better than "Foorballers Wives" anyway.

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But on Footballers Wives Page 3 model Chardonnay's career was wrecked following an unfortunate hen night incident with a candle and a garland! What could possibly be better than that?

Does Fat Club count as a documentary?

Emma, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What about the Fellowship of the Ring?

mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hope that's a response to Emma's first question.

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Footballers Wives is like Dream Team except it takes itself more seriously. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

Ronan, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ronan! Dream team *is* serious, dedly serious, just ask Fletch. Oh what will happen to him? I think he'll leave quite soon, which is a shame in a way, cos Harchester need a striker of his calibre.

chris, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I flicked through a bit of Footballers' Wives yesterday (God, that makes it sound like a dirty mag - sorry). Enchanted by 'did I hear that right?' name of Chardonnay and Harchester equivalent 'Sparks'. Is the club really called Sparks?

N., Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The club is called Eton Park hence Sparks. Chardonnay's full name is Chardonnay Lane. God I am craving alcohol.... only 15 days left.....

Emma, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Jon Ronson's Jonathan King documentary is finally being shown tonight at 10PM.

N., Monday, 11 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm watching _Dr. Death_ right now, and I found this beautiful little note from Harvey Weinstein on Errol Morris' site.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's _Mr. Death_ to all you sticklers out there.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Harvey!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

1. Crumb
2. The Kids Are Alright
3. Baseball
4. Blue Planet

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Kid Stays in the Picture

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Le Mans with Steve McQueen is the best documentary masquerading as a narrative film.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

World Link TV has run some amazing documentaries lately. My favorite one is of the Masai tribal warriors who end up working UN peacekeeping detail in Bosnia as part of their mandatory Kenyan military duty.

I'd go with Architecture Of Doom over Triumph Of The Will for the obligatory Nazi documentary, but that's just the cultural art sociologist in me.

I'd also go with East Side Story (about the Soviet-era musicals) for fave film documentary and a toss up between Theremin and Another State Of Mind for best music documentary. Shotgun Freeway for best Los Angeles documentary.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know how I missed this thread. I must have been working or doing something *social*.

Anyhow, I loved 'Dirk Bogarde: The Name Above The Title' and 'Imagine', which is more a docu-film I suppose.

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 09:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also 'The British Empire in Colour' and the BBC's 'The Human Body' if that counts.

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 09:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've just googled and found out Martin Parr was behind it. The boring postcards man.

Ha ha. This reminds me of the opening line of my friend Jason's first philosophy essay at Trinity: 'Rene Descartes is a dead famous French philosopher.'

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hoop Dreams and Crumb spring to mind.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Crumb and When We are Kings.

Do the Qatsi's count?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

my favorite:
sans soleil

the most haunting:
silverlake life: the view from here

gygax!, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. Death was pretty good. Has no one mentioned Vinyl yet? Triumph of the Will was a bit dull, but perhaps mostly because my friend wouldn't let me MSTify it -- he was studying German and wanted to see if he could follow Adolf without reading the subtitles. (There is a shot, early on during the endless parade scene, where you see a kitty sitting in an apartment window, and that is the image that has stuck in my head all these years: The poor kitty in the Nazi family! So unaware of what was going on!)

My favorites are probably Frederick Wiseman's, or at least the two I've seen. His technique is to shoot a lot of footage, edit it, and not really add any background music or provide any explanatory context, just "let the scenes speak for themselves", so to speak. It's fairly different from, say, the Errol Morris style. "High School" is about a late 60s Philadelphia high school, and is scary and fascinating in exactly the ways you'd expect: The faculty come up with all these petty ways to show how much more powerful and important they are than the students, and it's all very sad. "Meat" is a detailed look at the meat industry, following some cows as they go from the farm (where they're fattened) to the slaughterhouse (with a very long and detailed and disgusting at times disturbingly beautiful sequence of the entire slaughtering process) to the market.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

American Movie is hilarious and very non-intellectual

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Harlan County, USA

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grass

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

which was the one about the U.S. street kids/homeless teens
which was nominated for an oscar for best documentary, and
wherein the main guy in it died before the end of the film ?

piscesboy, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chris, 'Shotgun Freeway' was like City of Quartz-lite. I was disappointed...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Somebody has spoken about this before, but A Century of the Self (shown in the UK about a year OK) was the best documentary I've seen in years.

In fact, I'm still trying to lay my hands on a copy of it.


bert, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

What was it, Bert?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

adam curtis is my god (see upthread several times)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anyone seen Wisconsin Death Trip?

Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Recent ones I have seen and enjoyed:
The Agnes Varda one about rummaging in the rubbish - Les Glaneuses or something - fantastic.
Promises - about ickle kids from Palestine and Israel - poor little things.
IMAX 3D documentary about Spacestation Pongo - you get to wear Elton John Rocket Man glasses.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was a cultural history of the twentieth century, focusing on successive members of the Freud family. It argued that Freud's concept of the subconcious had led to the birth of public relations, modern advertising, and modern government. It also showed how psychological theory had been used by corporations and governments to influence the behaviour of the masses.


bert, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

That sounds good.

I saw some of Wisconsin Death Trip. I didn't really get into it.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

morbs otm

harlan county usa is so great, saw it for first time today & cannot stop thinking about it

also thank you to this movie for introducing me to hazel dickens <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 May 2021 06:07 (two years ago) link

saw Sherpa last night after my brother recommended it a few weeks ago. Quite moving and also quite disgusting how little regard teh sherpas are treated with by the streams of people wanting to get to the top of Everest. Photos of the amount of people trying to climb resembled those of the lines trying to get into the Yukon for the goldrush.

Story of Plastics
saw this last summer and it hasa really scathing view of the continued cosntruction of single use plastics as well as the overly complex mixture of different plastics that go into packaging which make them very difficult to recycle.
Also goes into the whole idea of recycling overseas and what the reality is. They go to some place in Asia to see the effects and the actual process of recycling which is only used on a very small percentage of what is shipped because too much stuf can't be recycled as is. plus things get corrupted with dirt, foodstuffs etc and are therefore not able to be recycled even if they could be when pristine. Mouldy paper attached to plastic also a negative.
& plastic is still pushed by teh fossil fuels concerns. Time for a rethink.
I had seen a different doc on the effects of plastics on wildlife around the Atlantic how birds were flying thousands of miles on food runs only to come back with loads of plastic that wouldn't nourish their kids, how snails were building shells out of plastics and how the salination process of the oceans was being screwed up as plankton were processing plastics instead of their old process. So may have bits of that doc mixed up with bits of this.
BUt one takeaway I had , though possibly something I'd arrived at before, was plastic has been marketed asa disposable material since it was introduced only there is no easy way of disposing of it. Hope that changes soon, I am hearing some indications that there are ways of disposing of plastic underway but not fully established as yet.

I saw several green docs last year about the ecosystem and how things grow in good soil I think these included Soil, Dirt and Growth.
All of which seem to be really good indications of how things should be looked at and why one should move away from the monoculture that has been a farming method during mass production. Because it is detrimental to teh state of the soil that one needs to grow things in.

Tomorrow an English language version of a documentary originally released as Demain
A look into various aspects of systems theory and the work of Joanna Macy.
Has some really interesting things turning up Finland Education system, local area currency, biodiversity and several other things. Worth a watch.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 May 2021 09:45 (two years ago) link

I put off watching Collective on Hulu for weeks, thinking an expose of corruption in Romania couldn't be all that shocking. But it's great as cinema, and pretty appalling as well.

Displaced Intimacy Coordinator (punning display), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link

oh, that was on BBC4 recently as part of the Storyville strand, so the pvr picked it up on my season pass. but i've not watched it yet.

it's still available on iplayer here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000tpzn

other recent things on the same season pass, the one about the 80 year old mole undercover in the rest home, which was great.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000th7v

and the one about Goebbels's 103 year old secretary which i thought was really short on details but she had such a striking face.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00052bf

koogs, Monday, 10 May 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

just watched Collective. started with a literal sparkler, went big places. but the end was gutting. still 7 months left to watch on iplayer.

(actually, both the ones i mentioned above were up for the documentary oscar, both lost out to the octopus teacher thing)

koogs, Sunday, 1 August 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

(both = collective and mole agent, i didn't notice i'd also mentioned Goebbels' secretary)

koogs, Sunday, 1 August 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000kxl0/storyville-united-skates

"When America's last standing roller rinks are threatened with closure, a community of thousands battles in a racially charged environment to save an underground subculture - one that has remained undiscovered by the mainstream for generations, yet has given rise to some of the world's greatest musical talent."

koogs, Thursday, 7 October 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link


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