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it's funny, you see this idea used all the time in cartoons, but i can't really remember ever seeing it used much in comics.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link
So apparently there'll be a new Sandman prequel coming out next year, written by Gaiman and drawn by J. H. Williams. It'll tell the story of what happened to Sandman just before issue #1, as hinted in one panel in Brief Lives, and in Gaiman's introduction to the Doll's House TPB.
I know Gaiman's mentioned before that he might some day write this story, but I wonder if the real reason he's doing it 15 years after the series ended is because DC finally promised him a big enough pile of cash to write a new full-length Sandman story. I predict it'll be like the stuff in Endless Nights: an okay-ish story, but mostly just a showcase for the artist.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 July 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
he spent ages trying to get them to let him do this same story for the 20th anniversary, but they wouldn't pay him any more than he got in 1988, even on the same page rate but a deferred royalty program that he proposed to not kick in until after the collection was out. so I think it's less likely "a big enough pile of cash" and more likely "a royalty higher than 6%, from 2015," once another year of JHW's exclusive has recouped
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
details are in the Bissette/Golden
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
I predict it'll be like the stuff in Endless Nights: an okay-ish story, but mostly just a showcase for the artist.
Yeah I'll probably buy it, but mainly for the drawings
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
Which is about how I looked at PROMETHEA during its second half or so.
― Matt M., Monday, 16 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Has J. H. Williams actually done any comic where the writing would be on the same level as his art? Maybe Seven Soldiers #0? Batwoman and that one series with Ellis were okay, but it still felt like the art was the bigger draw even in them.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
The writing in the first year or so of Promethea was terrific IMO.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 16 July 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, and I don't think he's outshining the writing in Chase at all
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
it wasn't until Moore got locked into his "and now we're going to visit EVERY sefirot!" thing that it started to get tiresome imho. actually the sequences after that are pretty good too.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, I forgot about the first third of Promethea, when the "lessons on Magick" thing hadn't started yet. Yeah, that was pretty good stuff. I wonder if Moore always intended Promethea to go from regular plots to lecturing, or whether (as Douglas suggests in his book) he only changed gears when he realized Williams and Gray were actually able to illustrate whatever kabbalistic concept he threw at them?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 08:20 (eleven years ago) link
First third/half/whatever of PROMETHEA is well-written. I guess DESOLATION JONES was, too, though I'm not a big fan of Ellis' work overall.
― Matt M., Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/07/01/arts/ap-us-comics-sandmans-return.html
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Gaiman is giving a talk at the MFA and one of my friends is trying to crowdsource a ticket into it
― big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Monday, 1 July 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
I hope he's offering beer and/or hugs in exchange
Wasn't this Sandman prequel announced like a year ago? I guess J.H. Williams finally finished drawing it...
― Tuomas, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah, looks like we were talking about the prequel when this thread was last revived, exactly a year ago. I can see why DC would want to put out a new press release, now that it has an actual publication date, but the wording of the news is still weird: Shelly Bond, executive editor of the imprint of DC Entertainment, said Monday that Gaiman is working with artist J.H. Williams III to tell stories of Morpheus' world before he was captured. As if all this is new information.
― Tuomas, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, since this one is supposed to be set in another galaxy (if we are to believe Brief Lives), I guess we can expect some widescreen cosmic visions from Williams? I've no problem with that.
― Tuomas, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
"under the influence of writer Neil Gaiman" - does this mean he's not actually writing it?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 July 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
post-AP Gaiman so comfortable with RTing praise that he can cite himself as his biggest influence
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
What do "post-AP" and "RTing" mean?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 06:51 (ten years ago) link
Post- Associated Press?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link
Amanda Palmer, Retweet
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
Thanks! Still don't get what "post-Amanda Palmer" means...? From what I've gathered, she's some sort of a controversial musician? I've noticed the ILM thread on her, but it has like 2000 posts, so I haven't dared to try and read it.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
She worked hard for every one of those posts, you should respect her effort.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
pvmic
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
Tuomas on the money in this case
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Tuomas:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman#Personal_life
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
Ah, okay. I read Amanda Palmer's Wikipedia page, and it seems she's some sort of an attention-seeker? Is Sic suggesting Gaiman has become an attention-seeker too, now that he's married to her?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 06:36 (ten years ago) link
It's not the seeking as much as the getting - the levels of self-absorption apparent in the recent Guardian interview are more relevant to sic's joke, which has been thoroughly beaten to death by now.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 08:54 (ten years ago) link
I kind of want Tuomas to watch The Wright Way and read the Ben Elton thread now.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link
Must start 'Explain these clusterfuck threads to Tuomas' thread on secret board ILILX.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
Or possibly on the higher-traffic IHILX.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link
Tuo, you're a beloved poster and a cherished member of the ilx community. You should read the Amanda Palmer thread, starting maybe a year back into it, and next time it pops up, join in the discourse.
― how's life, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 10:52 (ten years ago) link
i will never, ever understand US ilxors' fascination with some C-list goth of negligible fame and less interest
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
Or Amanda Palmer.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
for many people a really special fingernail clipping makes a huge difference
― the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 July 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link
so this is happeninghttp://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/12/joseph-gordon-levitt-sandman-movie
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
still skeptical
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
Not sure why, but I can't imagine this going well at all.
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Sandman is unfilmable, and WB is a joke of a company with no respect for its IP. Wouldn't be surprised if the final product (which probably still won't happen) resembles Constantine.
― The He-Man-O-Centric Worlds of She-Ra (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
oh wow there's a producer attached to a Sandman movie for the first time ever
― giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
literally nothing about the story makes any sense, the setup, the characters, the resolution. All feels made up as it goes along, with plenty of garbage details and crappily conceived gender politics window-dressing thrown in, the art is painful to look at, BLECH
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
I remember GoY being one of the medium to better arcs, but I haven't read any of the original run for at least a decade.
― chap, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
there's a lesbian character who describes being coerced (although tbf it isn't really clear what happens, her description is deliberately muddled to foreground the character's total ignorance of hetero sex, which is really weird) into sex with a man and then skips a period and thinks she is pregnant so she asks Barbie how can she find out if she is really pregnant/what should she do. She asks Barbie if it hurts to have an abortion and Barbie says "not really". It is one of the most tone-deaf and poorly conceived sequences, it's really flabbergasting. And this is in the middle of a story arc that involves a trans character being told she's not really a woman cuz "the gods don't see it that way", and is subsequently killed (along with a homeless black woman) because Thessaly violates some magical law about the moon. And then Barbie is sad that her trans roommate is dead but apparently bears no ill will to Thessaly even though it is 100% her fault god there are so many fucking plot holes in this thing.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
So anyone else watched the Good Omens mini-series on Amazon Video or whatever they call it?
It's... as good and bad as the book. Aziraphale and Crowley are pretty damn great in it though.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 June 2019 03:52 (four years ago) link
oh nevermind, this thread is in comics... didn't realize
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 June 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link
Discussed on the Amazon Prime thread.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 21 June 2019 04:15 (four years ago) link
any version of the phrase "This is a story about stories" - argh.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 August 2017 12:57 (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink
"Sandman is a story about stories"Author @neilhimself explains the story of his famous comic ahead of its Netflix release#KayBurley MT pic.twitter.com/Zv0DjukouI— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) August 3, 2022
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 09:30 (one year ago) link