Nu-Metal re-assesed?

at lot of these albums got great reviews when released of course

what do static-x, judas priest,bay city rollers, lostprophets have in common?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, June 29, 2013 2:50 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I see where this is going!

what do static-x, judas priest,bay city rollers, lostprophets have in common?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, June 29, 2013 2:50 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post

they all played on Pandora the night j@gger lost his virginity?

xxpost well yeah, I mean "One Step Closer" with its "shut up when I'm talking to you" is a perfect example.

― Neanderthal, Saturday, June 29, 2013 2:44 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A better example is the video. The video opens, they do that stupid little jiggy dance, and then Bennington sings "I cannot take this anymore" with a grin on his face. Yeah, you look pissed off mate!

I hated the "Last REsort" video for similar reasons

now that was a bad song

re-assed is right

now this was a terrible song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-sYWaOrLdI

i've copied my spotify playlist of great nu-metal elsewhere but here it is http://open.spotify.com/user/unbornwhiskey/playlist/7DM4wgAaZRcHn0VbhEiAFC

starting a thread to shit on a subgenre is like *yawn*

just a bit of nostalgic fun for grumpy old people!
DMB threads bring together US ILXors
Britpop threads bring together UK ILXors
Nu-Metal threads bring together the whole of ilx!

the world really needed a slipknot clone NOT

i mean dude mudvayne were not a slipknot clone but whatev

I think I lost brain cells reading this thread.

we'll be sure to return both of them to you if we see them lying around

:) thanks.

Hey Neanderthal, you said you were in dalnet on #metal? Were you ever in #mp3_death?

lol YES. for a little while at least. I remember Postmortem being the dude that ran it, and a few other people. and _b0b_. and Depresy, and.....a few others.

basically taht's how I discovered Immolation.

Hey me too, wow yea I remember those names.

yeah, I was in college with a T-1 connection sucking down downloads. often times I'd snag one-two mp3s, found out I liked them, then take the bus (I lived in Tallahassee) to Vinyl Fever (r.i.p.), and pick whatever it was up, since they had a huge metal selection. usually using my financial aid or credit cards (lol stupid 19 year old).

this is why I have cds I never listen to now like Impaled Nazarene's "Nihil" and God Dethroned's "Bloody Blasphemy"

Nu-Metal seemed to be big from the start of my time at highschool to the end. Funny how even as I was 12-13 it often seemed obnoxiously immature and embarrassing, many of my friends were into it big time; although even at that age some of us were doing mocking impressions of kids who would like Linkin Park, Papa Roach and Limp Biskit.
I absolutely loathed the aesthetic and it gave me a bit of a prejudice against metal until I got over it about age 17.

These days as I explore music of the 70s and 80s, I find it interesting trying to spot the reasons why old bands and genres got a reputation for doing things they rarely if ever did at all, it seems everything prog, glam, hard rock, early metal and folk all would have seemed more blended together at the time than it does to me now that all the genres and canons have largely settled.
It was similar in highschool that you could be disparagingly referred to as a "goth" or "mosher" for liking a whole range of different bands that sometimes had so little in common.
Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Limp Biskit, Bloodhound Gang, Avril Levigne, Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, Staind/Stand, Rammstein, Alien Ant Farm, POD, Static X, Puddle Of Mud, Hell Is For Heroes, System Of A Down, HIM, Queens Of The Stone Age, Mudvayne, Deftones, Korn, Lost Prophets, Nickelback, Good Charlotte, Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41, Machine Head, Offspring, Nine Inch Nails and many others were bafflingly treated as if they were the same thing by a lot of people; even Muse, White Stripes and even Stereophonics were lumped into the Kerrang channel and magazine.

perhaps two or three years ago, I was at someones house and they had on the Kerrang channel and they played the exact same stuff they would have played at the height of Nu-Metal. This really made me feel a bit horrible, and not only because it was music I didn't like, just the idea that some people are stuck in that era was unpleasant (even if it was great music); I still see people who dress like that with the skater shorts and the pointless chain on the belt and the hairstyles.
I don't know if there is a proper name for that feeling, but I call it "ugly nostalgia", when the memories leave a bad taste in your mouth.
Slasher films of the era were another thing that makes my memories of the time unpleasant. I really don't think there was much good in popular culture at this time, or at least the sort likely to reach a lot of highschoolers.

I have almost zero experience with Emo music, but I always got the impression it was influenced by Nu-Metal. Is this so?

not originally but certainly the 3rd wave? was? sund4r to thread!

I knew that Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance were big into Smiths and Cure, it seems an odd mix with Nu-Metal. Although The Cure did work with Korn's producer, Bloodflowers and the eponymous album do have something of the era.

nu metal bands loved the cure too. Lots of people with shitty taste love the cure ;)

Yeah, Chino from The Deftones and Jonathan Davis were both well-known fans of the Cure if I recall.

I wonder what that Ross Robinson Emperor album would have sounded like.

I got into Deftones and Korn at about the same time, with both of their first albums.. For me, I was very interested in exploring the rap and metal combo, but it never really seemed to mesh enough IMO. I started a band around this time and we did just that, tried to mash those two worlds so hard that it became a new thing. we had a legit MC, and I think thats what made the difference for us in '96/'97, especially here in the SF Bay Area. For us it was a way to reflect how all of our friends had a wide range of musical tastes, ad we fit the bill for a lot of people. We started seeing bands in our area that were opening for us, start sounding a little more like us, and before we knew it, those bands were getting label attention and we were getting overlooked.

IMO, there wasn't anything really heavy in the early 90s that most kids could get into. Underground music was hard to find cuz no one was online in mass quantities.

what ruined the genre was the baffoonery of Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock. But even before those guys-Coal Chamber, Stuck Mojo, Snot-there was a glossy nod to an urban mentality that was fake as fuck. Remember Downset. Those fools were the real deal, but there wasn't enough talent there-especially in the MC dept, for it to hit. When these assholes, Limp writsed and Kid Kock, started to be the standard of what it was about, it had been lost. Anyone doing anything real was then compared to that crap and it died a painful death.

there is a huge appeal for the run off/lighter side of the nu-metal thing in the Nickelback type bands, cuz they're not heavy enough that chicks won't like it. And in the midwest and the south, there is just enough twang for them to be huge there. They've created a perfect shit storm of music to appeal to a lot of the bible thumping rednecks that make up middle America.

Now there is a new look at the rap and metal combo-a re-examining, if you will.. Its still sounding forced, cuz the music doesn't sound rap enough for the MCs to sound natural, but whatevs.. Its dead, let it be dead.

Its funny.. I love the idea of a MC doing his shit over heavy music, but I fucking hate every band that ever did it.. lol!

Tom Araya did some good rapping on Hell Awaits, lol

and as far as SLipknot goes... I was never a fan, but i think most people that see them live are usually turned into fans... 9 dudes in masks going off hard on stage is pretty impressive no matter who you are..

Remember, the early 90s produced some of the best, most diverse and best selling hip hop. So heavy bands were greatly influenced by this, and would bring in any of those elements they could-DJs, samples, whatever.

I forgot Evanescence. Was that Nightwish for Nu-Metal fans? I remember Lemmy saying Evanescence were one of his favourite new bands.

this is more like post-grunge mixed with a nu-metal chorus but it will always be memorable to me for the line "they tried to fuck me from behind/because i am a cloud".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGTJv4OVJPM

dirty cloud

Scott is there a nu metal meets metal/death core band out there?

^^^ YES!! Haktavist

I remember seeing the Deftones at the first Warped Tour (95, iirc) on the second stage (they played after Sick of it All) and thinking they were a bad version of Quicksand. (Who also played.) Also seeing a very early RATM show, and all of us sorta laughing at Zach trying to rap and annoyed that it didn't sound like Inside Out. It was kind of those Revelation Records post-hardcore bands that started it out, right?

Does anyone remember a band called House of Suffering? I still think they started the rap-hardcore thing...

Biohazard also responsible perhaps?

Giving me flashbacks to Dog Eat Dog on Headbanger's Ball. Who's the king who's the king who's the king who? Who's the king who's the king who-ha!

macdara is no fronting here ;)

anyway weren't Urban Dance Squad the first?

Senser ftw

I remember being in #metal on DALnet and there were vicious multilingual flame wars going on whenever anybody even mentioned Slipknot. At one point the metalheads running the channel (most of whom were Swedish) got so pissed off at nu-metal they basically coded a script that kick-banned people who even mentioned the names "Slipknot", "Korn" or any other band of the moment. Even if you said "Limp Bizkit sucks", as they weren't that good at programming.

haw haw, I remember this. i also vaguely remember Emperor and Cradle of Filth coming close to the status of Slipknot and Korn, but not quite.

Oh yeah, House of Suffering and Biohazard were around the same time. Anyway, just wanted to drop in to make sure nobody forgot Downset.

Emperor were getting flack for IX Equilibrium at the time, which was misguided. I also was a huge CoF fan (not so much anymore) so I fought over that, lol.

Some of the worst cover versions ever came out in the nu-metal era

lol YES. for a little while at least. I remember Postmortem being the dude that ran it, and a few other people. and _b0b_. and Depresy, and.....a few others.

wow, this is all coming back to me. I used to be an op on #mp3_death.

xp Two words: "Smooth Criminal"

xpost lol. I was Hell_Awaits and I got banned a lot. remembered nuking one of the Ops once in retaliation, was fun.

xp Two more words "Blue Monday"

"Word Up"

"Shock The Monkey"

"Mission Impossible theme"

xxxxp woah, I think I remember you. I was Desantnik.