CARCASS - Surgical Steel (2013)

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typed and retyped stuff here but i'm just really thrilled, so i'll just go w/ that

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

It's great to have Carcass back in 2013. between getting to see them at MDF and getting a new release, this feels like a belated dream come true.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 June 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

Non-Compliance to ASTM F899-12 Standard

Well of course they're in non-compliance--this standard has been revised 2 times since then. They need to reference ASTM F899 - 12b Standard Specification for Wrought Stainless Steels for Surgical Instruments

Hideous Lump, Monday, 1 July 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

Going to see them next month at BA, hope they'll be able to squeeze one or two new songs in the setlist.

Siegbran, Monday, 1 July 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link

Pity, the new one's been taken down. I'm doubly excited now having heard it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 July 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvHn1IlK5c

crying a little

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

In a good way?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link

totally! joy cry

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 July 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

shit is perfectly "progression from heartwork" all of my dreams come true

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 July 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

music to my ears. part of me wondered if they were going to go 'backwards' to their grindier days, which would have been the wrong decision.

instead we're retconning Swansong out of existence yayyyyyyyyyyyy.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

Er, I kind of like Swansong. This sounds much better though.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link

oh i totally dig swansong but yeah that doesn't diminish how great this sounds to me

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 July 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link

my issue is not with death 'n roll, which I actually like quite a bit of, but that I didn't think it worked for a band like Carcass.

stoked for this release. considering that by the time I first heard a note of Carcass, they had already disbanded, this is a treat.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

the problem with Swansong in my eyes is how out of sync the themes and subject matter are with the complexion and rationale of the band. they were still very much a socially conscious entity, but lyrically speaking everything was watered down to the point of ennui. that said, there are some cracking riffs on there; it's just difficult to appreciate it as part of the Carcass canon.

charlie h, Thursday, 11 July 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

really, really looking forward to this new one. i'm hearing both the technical ascendancy of Necroticism and the production of Heartwork in the teaser.

charlie h, Thursday, 11 July 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

sweet bass neck inlays

worldstar (am0n), Thursday, 11 July 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

there are some cracking riffs on there

This is what I like most about it; the opening to Black Star is up there with the all-time great Carcass riffs.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

It's funny, the song structures and production on Swansong are very much geared towards a more mainstream audience, then you throw in Walker's alienating to all but the core audience vocals. The whole thing is rendered half-arsed as both a mainstream hard rock album and an extreme metal album.

I for one still really enjoy its grooves though.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link

i guess they're officially previewing "captive bolt pistol now"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSsrKl6HtAw

hits the spot

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link

I like the shot in the vidoe of Jeff Walker (I think) drinking from a Symphonies of Sickness mug. The track is solid too!

Neil S, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link

Early reviews are glowing.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 28 July 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

yeah, Decibel loved it.

it showed up on Amazon. clicking the Pre-Order button never felt so grand.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 28 July 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

Invisible Oranges called it perhaps their best album.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 28 July 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

think this is extra special for me because "Heartwork" was the third death metal cd I ever owned (first two were Six Feet Under's "Warpath" and Cannibal Corpse's "Gallery of Suicide"). Saw it sitting there in a CD Warehouse, as an 17 year old just getting into metal, and picked it up on a hunch, fell in love with it.

got into the back catalog as well, but they're really one of the first death/grind acts I ever followed, so it's great to have em around in 2013 since by the time I got into them, they'd already split.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 28 July 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link

think this is extra special for me because "Heartwork" was the third death metal cd I ever owned

First for me!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 28 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

Except I had it on cassette, haha

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 28 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

I think a large portion of my early metal listening was dictated by what I could fucking find in CD WArehouse or the now non-existent "Blockbuster Music".

Neanderthal, Sunday, 28 July 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

: )

j., Friday, 2 August 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

Leaked. Dammit, I have to go to work.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 2 August 2013 06:38 (ten years ago) link

this will make you more efficient

j., Friday, 2 August 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link

three listens in a row, i have nothing but esteem for this thing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

want to write small poems about/to each of the riffs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 2 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

CAAAARCAAAASSS

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 2 August 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

All I have to say for now.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 2 August 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link

Will take me awhile to decide if the songwriting is as good as on Necroticism or Heartwork, but this is definitely proper.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 2 August 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

this record is making every other record i thought was a good record this year sound boring

j., Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

infinite, human, con, flict

j., Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

The graaaanulaaating daaark sataaaanic......... Mills!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

This is my third favourite Carcass album.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

i would like to post on this thread more but brad's "crying a little" post is a good stand in for every post i would have made anyway

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Except I had it on cassette, haha

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 28 July 2013 15:21 (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still own my Heartwork cassette!

Neil S, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

Oh man! Can't wait to hear this

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

I refuse to listen to the leaks on principal, since the prospect of a new Carcass album is something that I've dreamed of for over a decade and I want to listen to it the way I would have in 1996.

already have the shit on pre-order and if UPS is one minute late dropping that thing off, i'll do sick medical shit to them that was only hinted at on Reek.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

^^yes, agreed

prepping 4 frenzied detruncation of mailman

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 August 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link

so the new exhumed sounds p. much like the 'grindier' still-melo album some reviewers of the carcass were wishing for.

j., Saturday, 24 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

kinda feel like I've heard so much mediocre imitation grind that hearing Carcass go back to that style in 2013 woulda been....dull.

they went the right route IMO.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 24 August 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Vocals aside, Mount of Execution could totally be by Megadeth.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 13 September 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

just changed to "Shipping Now" on Amazon.com. so excite.

yeah yeah I know I could have heard this thing online for weeks now but I'm tryna experience this like it's still 1996

Neanderthal, Saturday, 14 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

*tears streaming down face*

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

yep

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

Whatever for?

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

There's a "visualizer" for the new song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdcfhccjk78

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link

I'm assuming the super tidy production style they've favored for the last little while is a turnoff for some people who desire EDGE but in the context of current metal I find it refreshing

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

ppl will always find a way to complain about carcass, meanwhile they continue to rock

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 18 June 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

folks. it is almost time.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link

before we go there, can i just say i cannot believe it's been 8 years since Surgical Steel. feels like half that at most.

my life is flying by. :(

alpine static, Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

seriously. like it's half the length of time of their previous hiatus!

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

IT'S TORN ARTERIES time.

here's my track by track review.

Torn Arteries - HOLY FUCK there's a lot going on here! delightfully this is a lot more nutbar on the fretbar than anything on last year's underwhelming EP. there are some tasty harmonized leads.

a nice little 90s alt rock Foo Fighters riff shows up shortly

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link

Dance of Ixtab (Psychopomp & Circumstance March No. 1) - another snarling melodic riff. this feels like a cousin to "Congealed Clot of Blood" from previous album.

much more restrained than previous track. but earwormy as hell

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link

Eleanor Rigor Mortis - awwww yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis. delightfully thrashy opening riff slows way the fuck down into a churning slow assed, heavy riff. great layered vocals between Bill/Jeff.

lovely harmonized guitar riff with that delightful Steer tone. middle section is mega-catchy but not in the cheesy way some melo-death groups do. and every lead is delicious.

OOOOOOOOOOOH now a new riff just showed up and I like it a lot!!!

fuuuuuuuck 3 songs in and I'm already so excited.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link

Under the Scalpel Blade - heard this one when it dropped in 2019. still love it.

again, just a cornucopia of ideas. too many good moments to pick from. middle section feels so arena rocky, I love it.

this is like a candy bar of a song except I'm not throwing up.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:08 (two years ago) link

The Devil Rides Out - mid-tempo crunchwrap, hooking its talons into a nice groove. Walker/Steer's vocals are unsettling af here, but the song is very pleasant albeit it gets very moody, like visiting an elderly grandma's house and hearing someone duct-taped and screaming in the other room and hoping against hope that you imagined it, and gradually finding out that no, grandma has a prisoner after all.

what I love is they have definitely not regurgitated Surgical Steel. it's similar, obviously, but this is a more patient album, it plays with space more, and it is not as obsessed with speed as its predecessor.

there are also more ideas to each song, this is definitely a "room with many doors" song as someone on ILX once put it (via a thread).

holy fuck the ending riff is amazing, I needed 30 more seconds of it.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:14 (two years ago) link

Flesh Ripping Sonic Torment - beautiful classical guitar gives way to chugging.

this song has a traditional heavy metal underbelly, like it's as if Angel Witch crashed the party and also spiked the punch with some of its own ingredients.

Steer just seems to be having fun from a guitar standpoint. and man do his vocals sound gross af here.

ok, moshy breakdown riff in the middle. hi. how are you?

I swear to god, there are way more elements per song than on SS, like a party where the guests never stop streaming in but they're all delightful so you don't care.

ok we're back to the Angel Witch-cum-death riff. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i'm not drunk i'm just so happy for this album

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:18 (two years ago) link

fuck the song is still going

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:20 (two years ago) link

mid-song calm riff coulda been on a fucking Christopher Cross album and then they went back to the face melting

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:21 (two years ago) link

9:42 - longest Carcass song ever?

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:22 (two years ago) link

Kelly's Meat Emporium - I know this was released months ago but I deliberately didn't listen to keep it a surprise.

more of a bite-sized immediate track, love the main riff and the thunderous drums underneath it. less surprises lurking around the corner, a little more "first three tracks of Surgical Steel" energy.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:27 (two years ago) link

In God We Trust - opening riff is practically doom metal. then it goes to fist pump tempo pretty instantaneously.

this almost feels Sabbathy at times, but faintly.

a beautiful clean arpeggiated riff featuring another beautiful melodic solo from Steer, lord he's just giving it all on this album.

ok there are hand claps on the song, i am dead. like i'm talking "That Thing You Do" handclaps.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:31 (two years ago) link

Wake Up and Smell the Carcass/Caveat Emptor - this starts out like a fuckin' Sword song.

sinister riff takes over with octavized lead guitar over it, then we're back to the Sword.

for some reason Jeff Walker is enunciating a lot more on this track.

wow this got hyper melodic real fast, and then goes from an arena-rock riff to a mosh pit crunch-riff instantaneously.

I am describing this album terribly. it is fantastic.

ok now i can't tell if this is gonna slow down extremely or get mega fast.

oh fuck it did the former and it's heavy af. yes.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:34 (two years ago) link

The Scythe's Remorseless Swing - 70s hard rock riff begins this one, could appear on Jesus Christ Superstar.

Jeff Walker is doing a pirate voice, perhaps unintentionally.

ok i give up, i have run out of ways to describe what I'm hearing, I just really like this song.

I didn't dislike a song on the entire album.

i can't wait to relisten to this shit.

my rating, out of 10, is 300.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 05:39 (two years ago) link

I'm about to listen. The consensus of the early write-ups seems to be 'good not great', but Neanderthal has given me hope...

chap, Friday, 17 September 2021 09:37 (two years ago) link

ok there are hand claps on the song, i am dead.

There was one review I skimmed bemoaning the handclaps, but I am down with handclaps in metal.

chap, Friday, 17 September 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

i love “eleanor rigor mortis” title on down

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 17 September 2021 10:04 (two years ago) link

The Devil Rides Out

Not a cover of the Whitchery song I take it?

Taliban! (PBKR), Friday, 17 September 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link

So it's good! Not quite delivering the "fuck yeah" endorphin rush that Surgical Steel delivered on first listen, it's a murkier, more convoluted affair (sometimes to a fault, "Flesh Ripping..." could easily be a few minutes shorter). The quality of the riffs can't be denied though. It will take a few more more listens to assess the songcraft.

chap, Friday, 17 September 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link

part of Surgical Steel's initial endorphin rush for me was the fact that we had one of my top 5 favorite bands back after a 17 year hiatus. I feel like had they gave me this album instead of SS, I might have had a similar reaction, though I do think SS is a more 'immediate' album. the songs use similar songwriting philosophies as Heartwork does.

this one definitely seems more ponderous and goes more angular directions, but never without being hooky af. can't wait for my third listen. it's on deck!

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

there's a boxed set version of this album that comes with the vinyl, a cd version, and....get this....a dinner set, including a plate with the cover of the album on it. and a 24-page booklet.

tempted. I want to eat off a Carcass plate.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

I'm willing to bet that almost none of these plates will ever be used as actual dinnerware, unfortunately.

Siegbran, Sunday, 19 September 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

I would totally eat bagel bites off it

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

hammer smashed

beard papa, Sunday, 19 September 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

Middle aged metal bands are really only an inch away from the Elvis porcelain figurine stage of their careers.

Siegbran, Sunday, 19 September 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

I would totally eat bagel bites off it

― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal)

Or microwaved uterogestation...

chap, Sunday, 19 September 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link

Iron Maiden will be pissed off they hadn't thought of it

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 19 September 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

This is not a good album.

It is a great one.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

Otm. I am enamoured with it after five listens

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 September 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

less immediate than surgical steel but after a few days with it: probably better

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 20 September 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link

kinda feel that way too. I'm also not burning out on this one. Surgical I played to the point of ridiculousness for a few months and I still can jam it and love it (in fact, it's going on next), but for a little while I was wiped out on it.

I think I'll be playing both back to back for a while. I love this band. and when I first saw them in 2013 I had no idea we'd get two new studio albums from them.

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link


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