Insomnia.

team insomnia

I can't believe what I need to do to get tired and have a good sleep.
On Monday, I got up at 5am, spent all day in Wales, walked about 15 miles along the coast and got home about 5pm. I Felt a little tired when I got back, but started coming around about 8.
I must have fallen asleep between 12 and 1am, but still woke up at 6am wide awake. I felt like I'd had a good sleep, but what do I need to do to get to sleep and sleep longer than 4/5 hours.
Unfortunately, I can't spend my days walking along beaches to get enough fresh air and exercise to make me tired.

hi dere

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/marek-doyle/help-me-sleep-magnesium-secret-to-sleep-problems_b_3311795.html

trying a magnesium supplement next week

interesting. thanks for the link. i have been doing OK recently, but am worried about the future when i expect to have more stress than i do now.

How can you tell if you need more magnesium? Well if you're having difficulty in going to sleep, find that you wake easily or wake before the alarm, you may be short. If you get cramps regularly, find that fluids pass through you easily, have cold hands and feet, experience tightness in the neck and shoulders or notice twitches in small muscles (the eyelid, for example), you will probably benefit from addressing this. By far the most noticeable change is sleep quality.

yes to all these except the peeing

that all sounds like me except i think my diet contains a bunch of magnesium according to a website of "magnesium rich foods." i think i might try a supplement anyway.

Yesterday I witnessed something very nasty. Slept a black, exhausted sleep last night, but tonight I barely dare shut my eyes for the flashbacks & consequent surges of fury. I'm out of sleeping pills. I am disgusted at myself, and the world. /endrant #gothefucktosleep

ugh yeah, I am having this thing where right when I start to drift off, I get horrible cramps, which is most surely an electrolyte thing. I was a bit freaked because I started an antidepressant, which can cause low salt levels. I think in the summer I just gotta pay more attention to how much I am sweating and make sure I replace everything. But yeah, nothing worse than tossing and turning. Don't have insomnia per se, but my sleep cycle is completely off-track and has been for most of my life. It's making normal life kind of hard.

My new memory foam bed has made a huge difference -I don't toss and turn and wake myself constantly anymore, bc I don't get sore spots from pressure. I also haven't had the morning leg pains since I started the magnesium.

It's still taking me a long time to fall asleep, but I'm getting such better quality sleep now.

Yep. Supposed to be up in 3.5 hours to fill out paperwork for new job. My room/body feel clammy. I was gonna take melatonin, but got paranoid since I couldn't find good info on if I can take it with antidepressant. I don't have insomnia, but delayed sleep phase syndrome, which while not as horrible, does create a lot of issues with being functional at normal human times.

gaaaaaaaaahhh. I've been taking this over-the-counter anti-anxiety medication and when I take it in the afternoon I'll involuntarily be asleep within an hour, but when I take it at night, here I am three hours later still wide awake. That's just not fair.

5:19 here and wide awake :(
Have tonnes to do today and I know I'll only get tired when it's time to get up and do stuff.

Ugh! :(

SNAP.

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Ugh, insomnia, kinda manic. Got to watch the baseball though. Dunno whether or not take anything to level me out, which might screw me up for tomorrow.

Reading Wittgenstein to help me get to sleep, which raises two problems. One: where does the idea that reading something boring make you sleepy come from? It's the same nonsense that gets people offended if you yawn while they're talking to you. Two: I love Wittgenstein, who am I kidding. Going to go find a book I hate...

Treating Insomnia to May Help Cure Depression

headline writer too tired and depressed

Ugh! :(

― not_goodwin, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 04:14 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wish I felt this awake in the daytime :(

i was wondering if you were still around!
Is there something you can do (take a few days off or something) to reset your clock? What do you think is causing the insomnia? It's the worst, that much is for sure.

So, twitching (as if being given an electric shock) every time I get close to sleep ... what's that about?

the hypnic/hypnagogic jerk?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

Ta. I wonder what reduces it?

"abrupt muscle action flexing movement, generalized or partial and asymmetric, which may cause arousal, with an illusion of falling."

nope, just the falling

http://5by5.tv/b2w/156

TOPIC: Better Sleep Habits

This week, Dan and Merlin do a deep dive on building better sleep habits with a focus on the paradoxes and planning of daily activities that can make all the difference.

also references conferencecall.biz toward the end (!)

(on-topic conversation starts around 10 mins)

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has anyone tried medical marijuana to help with serious sleep problems?

mine is better since i got on ADs - i don't lie awake for hours, and i initially fall asleep fairly quickly by my standards - but i'm not getting much restful sleep: i toss and turn and wake up a lot during the night, i have lots of intense dreams, and generally still feel tired in the morning. i have klonopin which i can take up to 3x a week, and that's great bc it helps me catch up. but i'm wondering about other options (melatonin, magnesium, valerian, etc. - none of that has any effect for me).

Sure, 4.30am is a fine time to wake up, no problem.

4:30am, still not asleep, i've had enough i'm def not gonna sleep at all, hopefully this means i'll sleep like a baby tonight

trying valerian root. been on trazodone for years and found myself taking more and more of it to get to sleep...not a good idea. Melatonin worked for me for about 2 weeks and then did nothing.

So, twitching (as if being given an electric shock) every time I get close to sleep ... what's that about?

― djh, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 20:29 (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Need to do something about this; it's ridiculous.

quick google search suggests that it's best served by all the old "sleep hygiene" stuff: quiet mind, calm body. One sure fire I learned as a (sleep-troubled) kid was to tense up my muscles in waves (feet, then legs, then groin/buttocks, then midsection, then chest, then arms, then face/neck, then whole body) for fifteen seconds then release, then pause and move on. Do two or three cycles of that while focussing on deep breathing generally makes a difference.

That's good advice, always useful to have a routine for getting to sleep.

Hypnagogic myoclonus is almost always a benign, normal phenomenon. Can happen in clusters (multiple episodes over a short period of time) and can become habitual, like hiccups (another form of physiologic myoclonus). Sleep disruption / exhaustion is the most common cause. Sedatives (including most psych meds) tend to make it worse. There are medications for myoclonus but we don't usually treat that form of it. It'll tend to settle down on its own over time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk
http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/hypnic-jerk/

plasmon, you're a doc?

because we should probably just have an in-house ilx physician to take questions. i'm pretty sure that's the way this is done.

yeah, plasmon is, to the best of my knowledge, a doc. at least he dispays a certain doctorly familiarity with the stuff you'd learn in med school.

Yeah, I'm a neurologist.

i temporarily wrote christopher nolan off after this film.

lol

Thanks Plasmon/Forksclovetofu.

thanks amateurist

it's gonna be a bad day

i stopped getting any more than 3 hours sleep a night a few weeks ago, so i'm off gabapentin and klonopin. tried 5mg of melatonin but it was giving me nightmares and making groggy in the morning. trying trazadone now :/

that suuuuucks. hope trazadone helps.

me too! just switched today from celexa to wellbutrin, so it might get worse before it gets better.

oh shit, wellbutrin's awful for sleep. hope trazadone will counteract it ok.