Why is John Fahey So Boring?

wk - ok, SPOILER ALERT! - he just took wire cutters and snipped the strings across the soundhole, without slackening or loosening them whatsoever! Maybe this isn't so fascinating if you don't play guitar, but this is wreaks absolute havoc on your neck and fucks up the tension something awful. From the quotes about this practice, it seems he enjoyed the sound - POP! Also, he changed strings constantly, even between sets. Said he liked the brightness. If I recall correctly, he favored GHS strings, which, to my mind, are already kinda bright. Anyway, I thought this was interesting because he didn't seem very discriminating about most things - food, guitars, places to live, etc - and so this constantly changing strings thing seemed a bit quirky.

I agree with tyler about the second half of his career being more interesting. I'll email the author and if I hear back I'll post here!

Also (and I realize there is probably a better place to discuss the man's music than on a thread with this title), I was listening to Live In Tasmania last night, and liked it less than I remembered. I recall it being one of my favorites from that era, but yesterday I noticed how rushed everything sounded, like Fahey was just running through stuff like Kottke would have done it, not wistfully or especially passionate. I also didn't remember the sound being so muddy. Maybe I should buy the reissue? I want to read Jim O's notes, anyway. I would also expect that the 'remastered' version or whatever is better at making these live tracks more seamless (the quick fades certainly shatter any illusions of a 'live' recording, especially considering the rumors that some of this is studio work with applause dubbed in. Maybe Volume 2 will address this, at last!).

Sorry, too much coffee today.

tyler could point you to a couple great fahey live boots that would probably be better

this one is my fave http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/21030078332/in-christ-there-is-no-east-or-west-john-fahey - looks like the link is still good.
digging around on delta slider is worth it too http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/

yeah that radio one is great just because the sound quality isn't that far off a studio album

was reminded by the handbook that fahey makes an appearance in clockwork orange
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/897/10000000000001d30000011.jpg
alas, haven't found the 1968 playboy spread where his record is displayed.

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there is a ridiculously nerdy but fun blog post about the record store in that movie here: http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2006/04/13/alex-in-the-chelsea-drug-store/

including this kinda mind boggling observation:
"Might there be a reason for placing Fahey’s not-at-all futuristic blues record next to the 2001 soundtrack? How about this: one of the songs on Fahey’s album is Bicycle Made For Two (aka Daisy Bell), the very thing that the HAL 9000 computer famously recites when it’s being shut down."

what the fuck is up with the robot voice at the end of the FFV track on that boot tyler posted? is that a watermark for some encoding program or is that Fahey indulging in some electronic voice manipulation? kinda freaked me out

haha, i think it's just a super groovy KSAN station ID?

constantly changing his strings does surprise me. cutting them all off at once is no big deal though.

Without slacking the strings? Seems like that's a great way to warp your neck! That said, given the way he played, maybe I should start doing it that way. :)

yeah, doing that seems kind of nuts to me. he should've done it onstage, that would've been a hit, i think.

maybe if there's no truss rod it might cause a problem but I don't think the wood would warp that quickly. and how else are you going to clean the fingerboard?

fahey did cut his strings on stage, i've heard accounts!

Just got this in the mail today -- and holy shit, the section on the label types.

Ha! I know, it's absolutely the final word on Fahey album pressings. Period.

Fwiw, based on Glen Jones' foreword and the way the biographical section extends through his whole life, it seems like Vol. 2 is at least well underway if not in the editing stage.

I agree that it should be an interesting read -- between the Vanguard era, the orchestra albums, the Tasmania controversy, the Epstein-Barr syndrome, and, of course, his comeback in the 90s, there's a lot of rich material to mine musically and otherwise.

Agreed. I wrote to the author last night, I'll post here if he replies.

My favorite Fahey records are Of Rivers and Religion, Railroad I, and Red Cross, so, yeah, I am eagerly anticipating the second book. By Tasmania controversy do you mean the tales of it being made up of at least a third 'fake' live recordings?

Somewhere I have a cassette I recorded of his set at the Hint House in the nineties. I should digitize that, especially since I've never seen any 'bootlegs' of it floating around.

Sorry for the abysmal sentences, my left hand is in a splint and I'm not quite awake yet, just can't resist the Fahey bumps

Yes -- it will be interesting to find out what was what in Tasmania. He definitely played "Disco Void" live with some regularity.

Ha! I know, it's absolutely the final word on Fahey album pressings. Period.

Also, Fahey would make for an awesome artist poll, jimmywine.

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http://danbachblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/john-fahey-live-at-mr-browns.html

I started this poll:

The Resurrection(s) of Blind Joe Death: The John Fahey Comeback Albums Poll

Not a lotta response though. Pretty sure we also did a thorough poll of the entire discography once, no?

LOL:

15th(!) pressing of Blind Joe Death in 1978 being pressed with Alan Parsons Project's I Robot because they shared a catalog number. That must've been a bit if a shock to the listener.

Also, while I'm still kind of blown away/put off a bit by the intensity of the label stuff in this book, it does demonstrate how Fahey's myth (and that of other artists) evolved in the music business. How his label images went from plain font to dragons (emulating classic 78s) to (briefly) a Hindu god (during his Fare Forward Voyager/Swami period), etc. Interesting stuff.

the fahey catalogue is v difficult to sensibly divide because there are myriad genealogies running through, multiple labels &c. the late period one has the clearest cut-off points & worked well despite the lack of interest. the giant poll of everything - In Christ There Is No East or West: The John Fahey Albums Poll - was too overwhelming & had a hideous victor.

there could be many viable or semi-viable possible fahey polls. the ones i'd be most interested in wld be a 'classic' 60s poll, poss just takoma & a 'wilderness' period poll of 80s/early 90s stuff. the end of the 60s & 70s gets to be such a mess, there are loads of sub categories: the vanguard records, the "& orchestra" records, america & FFV, the christmas albums & yes! jesus loves me, the beginning of the slightly manic elephantine-medley period (which runs into the 80s & has roots in the dixieland records)

Let's do them all!

Also, what do you have against The Transfiguration...? It isn't my favorite by a longshot but surely it's not a 'hideous' choice.

yeah transfiguration is great

of the classic period i might vote for the great san bernadino birthday party and other excursions just because the title track is so mindblowing to me

love the yellow princess so much

Of the classic period I am partial to Days Have Gone By just a notch above The Yellow Princess (which, on certain days, seems weirdly dense and impenetrable to me).

I just recently heard Let Go, one of the last remaining Fahey albums I hadn't heard - title track is fucking great! A revelation, that one. Gotta find it on vinyl.

i don't think i've ever head Let Go. I was just listening to the Cul de Sac collab over the weekend for the first time in forever (though it may have been the first Fahey I ever heard?). Pretty solid album, don't think I was ready for it way back when.

Somedays Transfiguration is my favorite of the early ones -- I feel in some ways it's the best example of what Peter Stampfel said about Death Chants when he wrote Fahey "used a traditional guitar style to play modern-based compositions in an extended way."

Other days it's San Bernadino -- I adore "Knotts Berry Farm Molly," the melodies, the backwards tapes, the way he recorded the guitar. And for all the sturm und drang over his final period, "Guitar Excursions Into the Unknown" sounds awfully similar.

Really, we need to do an artist poll. All his periods deserve reexamination.

possible artist poll title - Why Is Polling John Fahey So Boring?

Can we break it up into several micro-polls, as ogmor suggests upthread? I think that's a great idea.

I would be game for this as well. Possible micro-polls:

'classic'- all Takoma releases, Yellow Princess, Requia (even though they were on Vanguard they still seem to be of that era, to me)
middle period- FFV, orchestra, etc
wilderness years- (I would talk up Railroad for that one)
comeback years

I dunno. Whatever works for me! Let's do some Faheychat.

Can we break it up into several micro-polls, as ogmor suggests upthread? I think that's a great idea.

I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on used copies of all the 80s albums I don't have on Amazon.

there is, of course, nowt wrong w/ transfiguration, &, comparing it to records by anyone else it is clearly excellent, but I always thought it was the weakest of the first six takomas, & mb voice of the turtle too - just not enough meat there, all wistful drifting downstream stuff. i admit that I love it, & there are some hot oddities on there, but the idea that someone cld survey the entire JF catalogue and think, "Truly, this collection of short vignettes of winking country is the best he had to offer" is disturbing.

anyway, I cld do a poll but I'm happy to chat about the records here. I also think fahey is well-suited to a POX type thread, although again I feel this wld be better divided by period. I'd find it more interesting of ppl enthused in detail about different tracks, created their own fahey sub-genres, traced their genealogies&c.

what's yr fav nancy mclean duet? (downfall of the adelphi rolling grist mill obv)
yr fav perverse fahey cover? (California dreaming)
&c. &c.

I'm trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on used copies of all the 80s albums I don't have on Amazon.

Hmmm...7 CDs for $35 is not too bad. You've also just reminded me that I also know nothing of Visits Washington DC. That's one of the last ones I haven't heard (along with all the xmas albums that aren't The New Possibility). Has anyone ever seen GT&C on vinyl? I'd totally drop $20 for that one alone. It never seems to turn up.

Ogmor's argument to not poll the specific eras is persuasive. In fact, the only reason I'm leaning toward the polls as opposed to keeping the discussion flourishing here is this completely annoying thread title.

it took me forever to find a copy of god, time and causality, strangely. but i did. and it wasn't expensive. $10 in a store i think. i think all the fahey albums are worth buying, certainly for the $35 pricetag. GT&C, I Remember BJD, City of Refuge, and Visits Washington DC are all, in my opinion, really good records. i also have rainforests & let go, but i never listen to this really.. i should revisit for the poll. or micro polls. or w/e.

Ian, give Let Go another try - in places, I think it's as good as GT&C (and the similarly underrated Railroad I). Worst cover art of the entire discography though.

Don't think I'm too proud to show up at the next record fair with my copy of the Handbook in tow. I will be "that guy."

"errr, errrm, actually, according to the Handbook, this is the fourth pressing - see, look at the thickness of this underline on the label."

ohhh i love the LET GO cover art

I think it's very amusing that all of this discussion is taking place on this thread Reclaim it!

City Of Refuge is really really good. It might be the only one of those I've heard. I may have Let Go, need to check & listen if I do.

i'll def listen to let go again at some point! railroad is a huge fave of mine as i have mentioned somewhere on ilx before

Ok Amazon didn't calculate shipping. Now it's $65 which isn't as appealing.

This just in: the easy melodicism of After the Ball goes down like honey.

Oh yeah, After The Ball is great.

After the Ball tho is why I don't subscribe to the idea that a record of "short vignettes of winking country" is somehow a lesser offering from Fahey -- just as a record of electric noise or concréte wouldn't be.

This is precisely why I'd prefer to poll all his work together -- you really need to consider how all these sides of Fahey--Woody Allen Big Band, Thurston Moore, Pierre Schaeffer, Charley Patton--all came from the fingers of one man.

Also, with stuff like "Beverly," "Hawaiian Two-Step," it seems After the Ball is a pretty clearly a better record than Of Rivers and Religion. -- not entirely sure why the former is always left out. Perhaps because people don't admire sequels as much. Old Fashioned Love is pretty great too.