Why is John Fahey So Boring?

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look at this john fahey guitar holder

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

!!!

tylerw, Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

kinda terrifying

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

omfg

hello :) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

I guess if your goal is never to pick up a guitar again ....

grandavis, Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

good grief that model. i have some sort of diy takoma tshirt bequeathed to me by g jones, it's a kind of garish orange&purple, incredibly faded & hideously oversized on me but it is ofc a most prized item of lounge/bedwear.

NTI i am not sure how you are linking after the ball & transfiguration but i am curious. i think the three orchestra albums all have decent stuff on, not so fussed about the actual dixieland, but i love that drunken euphoric righteousness you get on in a persian market, hawaiian two step, jaya shiva shankara, om shanthi norris & almost all of of rivers&religion. rivers&religion is so fantastically slow as well - the ending of each line becomes so inevitable it feels absolutely massive. the bit in the old man river medley from about 4:10-4:40 where fahey drags time out to deliver that delicious dissonance w/ the hottest syncopation is so potent it has a kind of physiological, brain-melting effect on me like a superbly bitter or spicy taste that feels like a neural overload. i get high off those harmonies, basically.

ogmor, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

i was just listening to old fashioned love and i kinda like the corny dixieland

or at least i think it's good and they sound like they are having fun and i feel like it's contextually interesting in the scope of his career, for someone who seemed to steel himself against genre cliches with a certain intensity embracing something like that

hello :) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 August 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

yeah not sure if i would want a whole album full of fahey dixieland jams, but i like them in the context of the album.
think this is my fave from rivers & religion, something about the pacing of it is just deeply heavy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1inB79hSZHw

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

and dry bones in the valley slays, so old fashioned love is good b/c its got that one on it

global tetrahedron, Friday, 2 August 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link

dry bones is the ultimate fahey slow-motion jam

ogmor, Friday, 2 August 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

I dig the Gastr del Sol cover of that one a lot, too.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 3 August 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link

interesting would be the question why people find him so great.

Specific feelings evoked, like most music. Trying to talk about it ultimately doesn't get anywhere. Not that it can't be fun to nibble around the edges.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 August 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link

I could say something like "Americana reverse domesticated for Americans people more comfortable with oud solos."

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 August 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link

But why, why do you like a nose shaped like that?

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 August 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it is answerable in concrete terms but as with music it's going to be disappointingly mathematical and the qualia is going to slip right through your fingers.

Sorry, I'm kind of sudafed damaged.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 August 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link

re: dry bones, i prefer the fahey version, i think it's neater. the gastr one w/ conrad creaking along starts to feel like it's about to collapse under its own weight, but i love that album and it's a good closer.

i think i cld come up w/ a lot of perhaps hyperbolic-sounding reasons why i like fahey but idk. i was more tempted a while ago when i think hurting said something about fahey "not having enough tricks" or something, which struck me as so absolutely wrong that i was tempted to post a list of selected JF tricks. i don't care if ppl don't like him though, that's fine

ogmor, Saturday, 3 August 2013 10:46 (ten years ago) link

Post away

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 3 August 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

Yeah ogmor, I really dug your post on after the ball & transfiguration above, feel free to get as hyperbolic as you like from my perspective.

grandavis, Saturday, 3 August 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

dry bones is the ultimate fahey slow-motion jam

One of the things that interests me about the second volume of the Handbook (and possibly, more, Coley's bio, if it ever happens) is that increasingly in the 70s portion of his catalogue Fahey began to record these kinds of pieces -- stretched out meditations on either melodies gone by or that never were. The slower the tempos, the greater the tension between the sentimental and damaged that occupies these great big yawning spaces.

To that end, I can completely understand why by the 90s he may have found these records to be personally uncomfortable and maybe a little embarrassing.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 3 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

otm. Some great writing on this thread!

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 3 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

I'm playing the Fahey and Gastr del Sol versions of Dry Bones simultaneously and it's freaking me out.

things are going to get better or worse (WilliamC), Saturday, 3 August 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hopefully this bio will answer this thread title's question:
An early heads up on a biography of John Fahey by Vin Du Select Qualitite label head Steve Lowenthal, slated for publication next year. Dance Of Death: The Life Of John Fahey – American Guitarist will be published by Chicago Review Press im June 2014. It includes interviews with all three of Fahey's wives, plus Michael Chapman, Leo Kottke, Byron Coley, Glenn Jones, Jim O'Rourke, The No Neck Blues Band, Dean Blackwell and many others. More details to be announced at chicagoreviewpress.com
http://thewire.co.uk/news/26412/john-fahey-biography-on-the-way-in-2014

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link

Now that looks like a good read, gonna go ahead and pencil that in for 2014 birthday/Christmas.

grandavis, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

did we talk about this already? the talking heads don't look great but there's some new (to me) interview footage, so i'm excited!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=&v=3NoXyb9AjJw

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

i didn't know about that...did you see the basho doc got kickstarted?

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

knew about the fahey doc, think that might be a new-ish trailer?

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

xp yeah! i'm excited about that, basho is more mysterious to me. there is currently one known video of him playing though, so it's going to depend entirely on who they get involved. jack rose would have been so good for both of these

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm more excited for basho too, seems less documented.

i like that pete townsend is in both. cool someone of that stature would make time for both. i enjoy listening to pete talk about things. stephan grossman in the fahey - he's like the cat daddy of 80s fingerpicking instructional video tapes.

who's the guy who says "John Fahey was punk rock"? I hate that shit, not everything that is good or interesting or individual or challenging is "punk rock". Oh man "There's a Riot Goin' On" is PUNK ROCK. Bitches Brew is PUNK ROCK. Rite of Spring was PUNK ROCK.

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

copy of the handbook for 13 bucks if anyone needs one:

http://www.amazon.com/The-John-Fahey-Handbook-Vol/dp/0985302801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377804503&sr=8-1&keywords=john+fahey+handbook

scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link

xp punk rockists! haha, yeah, you can almost see in that dude's face that he's like "oh shit why did i say that!?"

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

i think the people in this thread account for roughly 43% of the sales on that fahey handbook.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

i think the guy who says he's punk rock is a member of ilx favourites the decemberists.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

i like that pete townsend is in both. cool someone of that stature would make time for both. i enjoy listening to pete talk about things.

Me too. As a huge Fahey and Townshend fan, I'm pretty excited to see this doc.

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

i don't have it!

if i was making a fahey doc i would try to get ppl like joe bussard, dick spottswood, anthony lee, pat sullivan, ED denson, terry robb, barry hansen, his various wives & gfs, peter lang, david grubbs, jim o'rourke, glenn jones, keith from nnck, steffen basho junghans, byron coley..... all way before pete townshend or whoever. but it is cool he is doing it. laurie spiegel said some interesting stuff about fahey, she'd be in there too. might go and see stefan grossman when he tours in a couple of months.

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

He divides his time between Lake Chelan, where he and his wife own and operate a vacation rental business, and Restlawn Memory Gardens in West Salem, Oregon.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

Revelation on the Banks of Lake Chelan

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

it's weird if they didn't reach out to peter lang and leo kottke

everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link

guess it was shown in NYC w/ screenings in seattle coming up
USA Theatrical Release:
August 16-22 New York City, NY. Cinema Village, Manhattan.
September 6-12 Seattle, WA. Grand Illusion Cinema.
http://www.johnfaheyfilm.com

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

they should have talked to my pal doug decker. he worked at takoma for years and engineered/produced a bunch of fahey stuff. he's a wealth of info. then again maybe they did. i haven't seen the thing.

scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

screened in portland last october, was serviceable

bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

way more psyched about the book

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

xp can you resolve the hot issue of who they had as talking heads?

ogmor, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

chris funk of the decemberists explains punk rock

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

xp not entirely, no. nnck dude definitely, decembrists guy gets a lot of time. b coley maybe? not too broad a cast. had heard that the filmmaker ran into some issues getting people on board for one reason or another. def works as a sort of primer for folks and is a net positive for that, but maybe not a lot for heads or whatever.

bear, bear, bear, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link

is there any particular reason the decembrists guy is even in there? does he make cool solo records we should know about? (not picking on him, i'm sure he is a good dude, just curious, seems like a random guy to interview).

tylerw, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

Chris used to live in Eugene and is a good guy based on my experience and friends in common, fwiw but I dunno why he would be in this - Fahey played in Eugene a fair amount near the end and released a record on a local label so there are some connections.

(I am really busy and have not watched the video)

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Thursday, 29 August 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

sufjan stevens was on a fahey tribute album i reviewed for the Voice once. does HE make cool solo albums that we should know about?

scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link


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