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Nothing to see here, move along: http://gawker.com/tv-stars-missing-person-claim-against-scientology-rule-1076869636

Leah Remini, the King of Queens star who noisily and publicly left Scientology after three decades of membership over disagreements with church leader David Miscavige, filed a missing person report for his wife Shelly who supposedly hasn't been seen in public in six years. The LAPD has taken the report and "ruled as unfounded." The missing person case is closed.

Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Boo.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

"It is a publicity stunt cooked up by a small band of unemployed fanatics who live on the fringe of the Internet."

staind in the place where you live (crüt), Friday, 9 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

It's a Mail link, but here are some closer up pictures of that underground base in New Mexico
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395235/EXCLUSIVE-Pictured-close-time-Scientologys-secret-alien-space-cathedral-landing-pad-New-Mexico-desert-return-followers-Armageddon-Earth.html

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link

The Wright book is awesome so far.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 August 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

Interlocking circles with diamonds in them carved out by removing small scrub trees:

It is believed that they are a ‘return point’ so members of the church know where they can find the works of founder L. Ron Hubbard when they come back from space after a nuclear catastrophe wipes out the human race.

Won't the trees just grow back by then?

cardamon, Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

shhh

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

As noted on Facebook, that guy arrested in the cop killing plot looks like the real world equivalent of Achewood's Nice Pete.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 August 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Reading Going Clear. Holy Fuuuuuck

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link

yup

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:47 (ten years ago) link

Any new scoops/info in that book? Seems like every couple of years a new book about Scientology comes out and they all tend to go over the same stuff everyone knows about already.

latebloomer, Friday, 24 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link

I dunno, it's pretty juicy!

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 24 January 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

i'll jus' have to check it out!

latebloomer, Friday, 24 January 2014 00:46 (ten years ago) link

Any new scoops/info in that book?

that tommy davis had allegedly blown twice was new to me

diamonddave85‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌‌ (diamonddave85), Friday, 24 January 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link

Going Clear goes deeeeeeeep. I thought it was pretty full of revelations, to degrees, especially re: LRH, made more effective given how well reported it all is, and how straight-forward and not at all salacious the prose is. Also: many people involved are even crazier than you think.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 02:40 (ten years ago) link

cool, definitely check out ASAP then. my mild skepticism was only because there has been a veritable flood of scientology books and exposes in the last few years.

*slow clap*, immense decay (latebloomer), Friday, 24 January 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link

120 pages in, it's fantastic, and omg is hubbard/scientology batshit [oops spoiler]

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Friday, 24 January 2014 09:08 (ten years ago) link

made more effective given how well reported it all is, and how straight-forward and not at all salacious the prose is.

very vigorously seconded

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Friday, 24 January 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link

Read this last year, outstanding book. Agree with y'all about the authorial tone.

Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Friday, 24 January 2014 10:00 (ten years ago) link

lates, its mindblowing. read it.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 24 January 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

Same author's al Qaeda book is also excellent.

grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

Just put a hold on the eBook for this at my local library. Stoked about reading it.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

And then declaring all of you as SPs.

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

I always love Lawrence Wright pieces in the New Yorker, and yes, they always have that crisp, unhyperbolic prose style that makes the facts shimmer a lot more. I love the way he'll present the obviously delusional account of a Hubbard experience without qualifying it too much, maybe just putting in a quick word or phrase, or else the brief testimony of someone else, to show that it's clearly not true -- like, here are all the things Hubbard said about how his vision improved through scientology, and then here is what another person said, which demonstrates that this is almost certainly false. But he doesn't weigh in or tilt the scales with adjectives, he just lets the facts speak.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Also, given the subject matter, he apparently subjected the book to a massive degree of scrutiny/proofreading/source-checking. The bind the CoS finds itself in is that to sue over this stuff, they'd have to produce suppressed or locked-away documents that would counter its claims. And clearly they don't want to or can't do that; there's a lot in this book that references Hubbard's supposedly unofficial autobiography, which the CoS has submitted as evidence in the past but has kept conspicuously locked up and out of the spotlight for most of the past couple of decades. If the CoS asserted that confessions in that book do not exist, they'd have to produce the book to prove it. Which is perhaps why the CoS has stayed weirdly silent and not-litigious when it comes to this giant tome and the earlier NYer article (with its damning revelation of massively doctored/faked documents and photographs from the St. Louis Hubbard archives).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

the 70 or so pages of Hubbard biography was riveting

just the sheer amount of moving around the world he did in the middle of the twentieth century is crazy on its own, let alone everything else he was up to

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 24 January 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link

Read "Bare Faced Messiah" years ago and that was :-O enough. Unfortunately, "Going Clear" isn't available in the UK, give you one guess why.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 16:44 (ten years ago) link

That's one thing the book brought up that I thought was most bonkers: Hubbard may hold the Guinness Record for most number of books published. Which this books brings up as an odd irony: if he were simply a con artist, why did Hubbard go above and beyond and write dozens of books, thousands upon thousands of words, developing this mythology? (Possible short answer: mental illness and amphetamines.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

No-one can fault the Commodore's work ethic, you've got to give him that

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link

I heard the same but I'm in the UK and just ordered from Amazon - delivery tomorrow, been meaning to read this for ages! xxp

Blandford Forum, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link

just the sheer amount of moving around the world he did in the middle of the twentieth century is crazy on its own, let alone everything else he was up to

― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, January 24, 2014 11:40 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya for some reason this was one of the most mind-blowing aspects o fit

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

Same author's al Qaeda book is also excellent.

― grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Friday, January 24, 2014 9:40 AM (1 hour ago)

thank you for this tip i will now read this book

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link

His adventuring is actually impressive in its own light, even though the officially "impressive" parts of it are fabricated. I mean just the fact that he got a bunch of people to go on this sea voyage with him looking for some portal to a space station or something?

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link

That's one thing the book brought up that I thought was most bonkers: Hubbard may hold the Guinness Record for most number of books published. Which this books brings up as an odd irony: if he were simply a con artist, why did Hubbard go above and beyond and write dozens of books, thousands upon thousands of words, developing this mythology? (Possible short answer: mental illness and amphetamines.)

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, January 24, 2014 11:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, this is a really fascinating part of the book, and I think it demonstrates that it takes more than a rational, cold-minded plan to pull off something like scientology -- you almost need the delusions and the hyper-energy of mental illness in order to make it work.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link

I assume the bit about LRH et al turning up in Portugal at the time of the revolution in 1974/75 in the hopes of doing - something or other, who knows what - is covered?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah maybe he actually was a superhuman he just was really weird and misguided in how he went about dealing with it

xp

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

He tried to draft a new constitution for Rhodesia! There are so many mind-blowing details in this.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

For some reason, the most fucked up thing about this whole tale is the anecdote about ... Tommy? Miscavige? One of them, anyway, telling a whole bunch of pitiful people to pack up their bags and belongings, get locked in a trailer, and then play a game of musical chairs to the music of Queen. Last one standing gets banished out to the middle of nowhere. The game progresses, it gets crazier and crazier, more competitive, and then in the end ... he doesn't follow through. They just go back to their assignment of moving names around on a chart or some such insanity/inanity.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

yeah that was crazy but iirc it was everyone except the last one standing was going to get banished

they had plane tickets printed up and everything

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Either way: totally OTT insane.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link

it's almost like he was a religious devotee of his own narcissism - his efforts and philosophy were maniacal and incoherent, but they were all to the aim of maintaining a grandiose image of himself

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

i feel like a lot of insane tyrants and religious leaders were like him, it's not that unusual to be totally insane and super charismatic, manipulative and influential

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

i mean, it is unusual to be that way, but not unprecedented.

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

right, I think it almost certainly IS unusual, but it does follow a pattern to an extent

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah the book's closing was pretty good in the way it place scientology in with the whole history of new religious movements

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 24 January 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

Debbie Nathan's book about satanic ritual abuse fits in nicely with Going Clear due to the extreme wtf factor

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 24 January 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

reserved a copy of this at the local library

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 January 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link

In comparison to the people running it now, LRH seems almost like some cuddly old tomato-torturing eccentric

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link

totally, he seemed like a sad self-destructive too rich bozo by the end, but seriously compared to M_______age and his torture trailer and his disappearing people and all that? lol @ LRH, cower in fear of tom cruise.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Saturday, 25 January 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link


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