hah
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
https://medium.com/p/16046aeb2d41Media Moguls: Ted Turner[Note: I wrote this as a senior in university.]
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
is this app.net
― spoons dipped in butter (cozen), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
ok here we go https://medium.com/the-web-we-make/b7a98098b342
― caek, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
i mean that kind of explains it. i still don't get why everyone on it is so awful.
Hard Knocks, not Harvard.
― diamonddave85, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
gross
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-08-22/twitter-co-creator-ev-williams-stretches-the-medium
― markers, Friday, 23 August 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/FalseMedium
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
that's pretty dead on
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
http://pandodaily.com/2013/08/28/buzzfeed-has-a-medium-problem/
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
pando daily
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Creation is not yet available on mobile devices, so even if you can post on the web, you won’t be able to post on your mobile device. We’re working on this.
teh future!!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
https://medium.com/p/4382e09934e
― One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 September 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
haha what is this website https://medium.com/editors-picks/37d58af643bb
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Saturday, 14 September 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
on the other hand tho: https://medium.com/p/d7e5d14065f1
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Saturday, 14 September 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
I like that what-is-medium piece:
They could skim the cream, and let the bad posts just sink, unloved and unshared. They got a bunch of great free stuff they could promote and any crap that got published on Medium didn't besmirch the great work they were doing with their paid-for stories. They could have their cake and a free one, too. (In this analogy, I suppose eating it would be making money, and so far, there's no sign Medium is doing anything but stockpiling cake.)
i've started to get interested in this blurry distinction between "platform" and "publication" -- specifically the way that semi-curated sites, sites that do have an editorial line for at least some of their content, nevertheless hold on to the idea of being a "platform" (as if they're just, you know, tumblr) as I guess a way of disavowing any content that might be damaging to their brand? It came up in this piece on the Awl, recently, a piece of inside baseball on techcrunch's response to the Awl's piece on Elite Daily--
"platform" is a buzzword now for publications. Medium, for instance, really is a platform: it has no dedicated writing staff, though it has assigning editors. BuzzFeed is sometimes a platform, such as when it throws up its hands at its inability to keep contributing "authors" such as The Heritage Foundation from publishing lies on its website. These publications have open publication technology.
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Saturday, 14 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
(& elite daily does not, viz it is not a platform)
there's this sense that the "platform" is more of a free-for-all and more "disruptive" and therefore egalitarian/meritocratic and that somehow magically the cream is going to float -- even though the mechanic that gets stuff to the front page, even when it's a little shaped by editors, follows the same old success-breeds-success mechanic. yr Medium dudes argue that they're coming from the idea that "culture is better for amplifying the voices of those whom traditional institutions exclude, even if that requires giving a platform to those who are thoughtless or negative", and maybe they are-- but medium does not actually serve to amplify the voices of those excluded from traditional institutions. It's just amplifying a different set of traditionally-successful people.
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Saturday, 14 September 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
basically, ~disruption~
its like when everyone wanted to be a social network
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 September 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
i think the "disruption!" thing is the public pitch because it sounds cool and noble and forward-thinking. but really you want a "platform" instead of a "publication" because a "publication" requires salaried or at least paid employees to create content, whereas a "platform" is a pitched to its users as a "free product" but is just a mechanism by which they provide content, against which the platform can sell ads, for free
― max, Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
i should say, not just ads but also targeting information
― max, Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
what's the quote 'if you can't figure out what they're selling, its you'
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
a "platform" is a pitched to its users as a "free product" but is just a mechanism by which they provide content, against which the platform can sell ads, for free
"web 2.0" in a nutshell
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 14 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
well it was web 1.0 too, or a component of it. the difference, i think, is at that point there was a delusion that the 'quality' of the content was somehow related to its potential popularity.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Saturday, 14 September 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
When I think of "platform" I think of Wordpress. But there's a difference between Medium and Wordpress, right?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
matt mullenwag wasn't the founder of medium. you can set up wordpress on your own server.
― markers, Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link
OK but most people don't, right?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 September 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
im setting up a wordpress site atm
― lag∞n, Sunday, 15 September 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
web 1.0 was brochure-ware, web 1.5 was database-driven retail
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 September 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link
web 2.0 was (is) you make our content for us and we'll make attempt to make money from it
Well, on wordpress people still have separate blogs, and the norm is to read one person's wordpress blog at a time, or pick a set of wordpress blogs that you'll receive on your rss reader. If there's a wordpress-curated space that highlights interesting/popular pieces, it's not central to the reading-stuff-hosted-on-wordpress experience.
Medium's more like a tumblr dashboard or facebook homepage, where content produced by lots of different people that appears to you in a non-chronological fashion. Someone could write a post that gets popular on Medium while not having the consistency of content that would keep people visiting a wordpress blog. What sets Medium aside from tumblr and facebook is that the people who are determining what content comes to your attention aren't your 'friends'/'followed' - instead it's Medium readers as a whole (+ potentially some interference from Medium's own editors??).
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Sunday, 15 September 2013 10:46 (ten years ago) link
welp http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/14/twitter-co-founder-evan-williams-lays-out-his-vision-for-medium
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 September 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
skyemediagroup03 6 hours agoPeople are still going to search for what they're interested in. Very ambitious indeed.
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Monday, 16 September 2013 04:48 (ten years ago) link
that techcrunch piece is unreadable
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Monday, 16 September 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link
Williams is taking aim squarely at the news industry’s most embarrassing vulnerability: the incessant need to trump up mundane happenings in order to habituate readers into needing news like a daily drug fix.
jesus christ this is what happens when editors don't have the time to do their actual jobs
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Monday, 16 September 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
the closest I can get to medium is that medium is basically everything I hate about everything
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
this part i thought was maybe the only interesting thing
At Medium, there’s no need to register a website, sift through a mountain of design options, and re-organize your schedule for the habit of blogging. You just write. “If it’s on a whim, that whim is killed the moment you’re forced to find a unique sub domain and find a template,” explains Williams.
The sheer simplicity of Medium’s writing platform is garnering accolades from respected writers and designers. Medium is “the best composition experience on the web, hands-down” wrote early Facebook designer Julie Zhuo, in a Medium post about Medium (so meta). “You see exactly what your post is going to look like. There is no translation, no guess-work, no typey-typey into some fat text area and wondering whether it’ll do ‘s and ‘s and :) ‘s correctly.”
New York Times tech columnist Nick Bilton also gives Medium a thumps up. “I really like Medium — it’s one of the rare instances where the technology is truly in the background,” he writes to me in an email. “I’d love to be able to replace WordPress with Medium on my personal site.” Fortunately for WordPress, Medium has no plans to become a separate blogging platform — but, it might become home to the occasional industry muse who doesn’t want to hassle with setting up a blog.
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
idg why these don't-want-the-committment-of-a-blog ppl couldn't just use facebook notes tbh
also where the hell is the option to turn off smart quotes, they are super bullshit
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
typey-typey
― j., Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Facebook Notes won't make you internet famous.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
WE NO TYPEY TYPEY
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
also nsfwcorp. what is that? i mean i get what it is. but. does anyone subscribe?
― caek, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
I follow a few nsfwcorp guys on twitter. I had to unfollow Gary Brecher though
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
I know maybe three people who subscribe and the rest of us swarm in for a day when they unlock articles. I sort of hate the house style though??
― Andrew Kornfan, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
maciej (the pinboard guy) likes them, but the fact that they did a series of posts on pando daily was a red flag for me
haven't actually read them. i try to find reasons to write people off without looking at their stuff these days.
― eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
its a bunch of idiots
― max, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Paul Carr and the one from the exile who wasn't Taibbi, together at last. It seems a bit like a riff on Carr's old Friday Thing emails except not so britisher
wd subscribe to something like this by maciej btw. He is great.
― sktsh, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
A personal note on that, because it really shook me: I don’t care how much you hate me, how much it irks you that I was able to raise money from my “rich friends” to start a company, or the extent to which the prospect of my personal failure brings you to the brink to schadengasm. I don’t care about any of that. No amount of animosity towards me personally can excuse the vile gloating I saw from some writers at “rival” publications at the prospect that a dozen fine journalists, developers, illustrators, and support staff – several with young children to support — would soon be out of work.Salon’s Alex Pareene, on hearing that we may have to lay off our staff, tweeted a single word in response: “aahahaha.” Gawker’s deputy editor, Max Read described the news as “BEAUTIFUL” (emphasis his).If I should run into messrs Pareene or Read, perhaps while taking a late night stroll through the lowest circles of hell, I’ll be sure to ask them how they’d have felt reading Tweets like that about their colleagues and friends. But of course, the answer to that question presupposes a capacity for empathy or even basic humanity.To quote one member of the NSFWCORP editorial team when he read those Tweets: “those fuckers had better hope we don’t survive.”
Salon’s Alex Pareene, on hearing that we may have to lay off our staff, tweeted a single word in response: “aahahaha.” Gawker’s deputy editor, Max Read described the news as “BEAUTIFUL” (emphasis his).
If I should run into messrs Pareene or Read, perhaps while taking a late night stroll through the lowest circles of hell, I’ll be sure to ask them how they’d have felt reading Tweets like that about their colleagues and friends. But of course, the answer to that question presupposes a capacity for empathy or even basic humanity.
To quote one member of the NSFWCORP editorial team when he read those Tweets: “those fuckers had better hope we don’t survive.”
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link