The World's End -- Edgar Wright, Simon Pegg, Nick Frost, etc.

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I liked the film but the fight scenes were so long. Wright, Frost and Pegg are so good at dialogue, I wonder why they bother with other stuff anymore.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

it was refreshing to have one of these kinds of movies where only one character could be described as a "manchild," where even that feels like a severely glib way to describe his situation

da croupier, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

ha, i agree with that

Nhex, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

me too. i really liked the pathos of gary king, even though his tragedy is a familiar one by now.

Treeship, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

and an unrepentant manchild who has no attraction, sublimated or otherwise, to his male friends a la Apatow's.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

otm

also I liked the fight scenes in this, because they were essentially old-fashioned saloon brawls

rooibos in disguise (wins), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

i liked how the robots/replicants were really easy to kill and also filled with blue paint.

Treeship, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

yeah -- the big surprise for me was how well-edited and framed the (protracted) fight sequences were.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

i was mixed on the fight scenes, they kind of had a sloppy Hong Kong homage feel to them, moreso than even Scott Pilgrim, but the actors here were older and less trained

Nhex, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

it's always funny to me when movie characters have inexplicably great karate skills

Treeship, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

and the diegetic explanation for that in this film = alcohol, lol

rooibos in disguise (wins), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

actually Pegg pushed his sweet obnoxiousness too hard in the first third; until the action started I was sure he'd exhaust his tricks soon.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

yeah the fight scene were pristine clear, which is a welcome change from sludgy editing we usually have today. still, the bathroom fight is just very long.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

xp wasn't that the point though? he was a total ass who destroys the world in the end with his assery!

Nhex, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link

The 1.2 million house and Gary going 'FUCK OFF' still makes me laugh.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

well, yeah, fortunately he destroys the world

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

and an unrepentant manchild who has no attraction, sublimated or otherwise, to his male friends a la Apatow's.

also in world's end one of the five is divorced, at least two are married with kids (martin freeman may have been married too). meanwhile in this is the end no one ever refers to a girlfriend or any other potentially lost loved one, despite "playing themselves" and Rogen & McBride being married (baruchel was also engaged at the time).

da croupier, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

but whatever relative depth or poignancy the world's end has, this is the end actually a dramatic climax with an ewok dance finale, rather than an admittedly amusing debate about free will followed the narrated description of a post-apocalyptic world.

da croupier, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

actually had a dramatic climax, i meant to say

da croupier, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link

Having trouble seeing that as a point in This Is The End's favour, to be honest.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

some people like a long sequel set-up at the end of their movie more than a dance party, i get it

da croupier, Monday, 2 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

you saw TWE's ending as a sequel set-up? gary king lives on in self-assured glory for the rest of his days, period

Nhex, Monday, 2 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

The fight scenes had an HK feel to it b/c one of Jackie Chan's guys was the stunt coordinator. Jackie is thanked in the credits. I started calling moves once Nick Frost did a tiltawhirl backbreaker and elbow drop during the first fight scene.

Also, I laughed hard at the big thank-you to Andrew Eldritch and the SoM song in the credits.

The postscript was weird and kinda disposable except for some of the familiar faces in the bar, but I thought the look that Nick Frost gives the wrapper was perfect.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link

nick frost with mad sammo hung vibez in this.

(really dug it, less than hot fuzz but way more than shaun.)

thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

Post-script was way weird, much of the movie really wasn't that funny, but I appreciated the layer of darkness coursing beneath the surface, from the alcoholism and suicide attempt to its proudly, joyfully immature nihilism (as opposed to the depressing nihilism usually invoked). I also liked how the threat of the aliens was never really pressing, just mostly invoked as an inconvenience. I think Shaun of the Dead is the best of the trio on several levels - funnier, more poignant, sweeter, more clever, better references - with Hot Fuzz maybe two and this one last, but I liked it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link

there was a thing after the credits??

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:18 (ten years ago) link

I'm so tired of sitting through credits for gags that it didn't really even occur to me to check.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah i must have missed that too.

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link

(really dug it, less than hot fuzz but way more than shaun.)

― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, September 2, 2013 11:13 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think this is where im at

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link

There's no stinger in this. I'm just a film geek who needs to sit thru the credits until I get to the music listings.

Because we live in the modern world, there's an app that tells you if there's anything in the credits. "Anything After" is on iOS, at least.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

That's just fucked up. If I had that app I would have another app that told me if it's so important they should put it before the credits, because movies are too long as it is and I have places to be and better things to do.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:48 (ten years ago) link

This movie was not too long, btw, so hats off, Pegg et al. I mean, technically it was too long, in that it could have ended a little earlier, but actual running time was reasonable.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link

thx kingfish will look into it

the movie WAS a bit long, but so were hot fuzz / scott pilgrim

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link

I really enjoyed the end of the Final Confrontation, as it struck me as being so very British Sci-Fi along with bits of Doctor Who or Hitchhiker's Guide.

Come to think of it, Bill Nighy has been in all three of these films.

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link

good comparison, very d. who

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link

Not quite as good as Hot Fuzz but this was great. Sisters of Mercy A++

latebloomer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link

i am too cheap to pay the $1 for that app but the word "stinger" clued me into this website:
http://www.mediastinger.com/

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:31 (ten years ago) link

Also, this is probly the only film where I've loudly said "Holy shit, dude! The Housemartins!" whilst viewing

Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 06:42 (ten years ago) link

I admit I may have missed a bit of dialogue while figuring out if it was Lipgloss or Do You Remember The First Time? playing in the background.

Also the fight scenes were great, why is Edgar Wright the only westener interested in making decent fights these days (and/or feel free to point me at anyone else)?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 07:57 (ten years ago) link

Well, movies like "The Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger" and the movies they immediately begat may have burned people out. That's one theory.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link

(really dug it, less than hot fuzz but way more than shaun.)

wtf at this null set

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

and u cankles, egging him on

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

Well, movies like "The Matrix" and "Crouching Tiger" and the movies they immediately begat may have burned people out. That's one theory.

Because Crouching Tiger had decent fights, everyone else deliberately makes shit ones? Interesting theory.

The fights in the first two Transporters are great, and literally the only thing that's not mind-numbingly shit about Now You See Me is a couple of fights. So we can give Leterrier points for effort.

ᕦ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕤ (sic), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link

Wright, Frost and Pegg are so good at dialogue, I wonder why they bother with other stuff anymore.

So people will buy tickets.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link

iirc corey yuen directed the fight scenes in the first transporter

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

how soon will there be an apocalyptic comedy about ILMers saving the world at the EMP conference?

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

ILM is like an ongoing apoplectic comedy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

I'd pitch the zing crew in a remake of Judgment night before that

da croupier, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

oh boy, there's a zing crew

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

Zing Crew did the fight choreography in this movie, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

I was rewatching this last night too, and aside from a couple of really funny moments it barely rises above amusing. I'm not really sure I need to see Pegg as the wayward man-boy again, in fact you could interpret SotD and this (I'll pass on Hot Fuzz, haven't seen it recently enough to remember) as the mature Edgar Wright looking back on Tim from Spaced and casting him in a judgemental light rather than a sympathetic or empathic one. They're not the people they were at that age and neither are we, so maybe we shouldn't pretend we are.

Whoever said Gary = Partridge ^^^ is sort of OTM but there's someone he reminds me of even more. It's not Brent, is it? The inability to take things seriously, the giggling, the in-jokes, the lack of self-consciousness, not being able to see everyone laughing at him?

I could have taken this as a drama without the invasion plot, that the other four are just playing along with Gary (maybe out of loyalty, his mum really is dead perhaps?) who has fried himself on druqs up until the point where he kills a boy in the pub toilet because he thinks he's an alien/robot. Then it becomes about extracting themselves from the situation.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 9 January 2015 11:11 (nine years ago) link

He's sort of the post-snapping point of a lot of traditional British sitcom arcs - Ronnie Corbett or Richard Briers has Gone Too Far and is a piss-weak version of pure Id, oh how embarrassed they'll be when the fog clears - except that he starts from there.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 9 January 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link

I could have taken this as a drama without the invasion plot, that the other four are just playing along with Gary (maybe out of loyalty, his mum really is dead perhaps?) who has fried himself on druqs up until the point where he kills a boy in the pub toilet because he thinks he's an alien/robot. Then it becomes about extracting themselves from the situation.

― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, January 9, 2015 6:11 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea this would've been infinitely better, and could've prob been a really good movie

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Pretty good list

https://mubi.com/lists/edgar-wrights-favorite-movies

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

who has 1000 favorite movies? kinda makes "favorite" meaningless.

circa1916, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

i don't, but i could easily compile a list of 1000 movies I like, which is what he did

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

he has good taste

"Stop researching my life" (Ste), Thursday, 28 July 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

I think Hot Fuzz and Shaun Of The Dead are better overall but the depressing parts of The World's End have left the strongest impression of any of the films. Maybe the sci-fi action direction wasn't the best way for it to go but I can't think of better alternatives.

I'm not a big South Park fan anymore but it reminds me of one of the best episodes with Stan getting jaded and its genuinely quite sad but it doesn't really go anywhere interesting in the second part.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

just like that South Park two-parter than ends with Stan as an alcoholic and is never referenced again!

Nhex, Thursday, 28 July 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

The word "Brexit" hasn't been mentioned once itt!

oder doch?, Saturday, 20 April 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

instagram just recommended that I look at this photo of a young Nick Frost that Simon Pegg posted last week, I'm not sure why because I don't follow Simon Pegg or Nick Frost, but it did make me realise something that had never occurred to me before in the near quarter-century since I first saw Nick Frost's face - Nick Frost looks like a bit like Howard Lew Lewis

https://i.imgur.com/KjfJu9e.png

soref, Saturday, 8 April 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link


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