Best album of my top 50 (WARNING: froggie self-indulgence)

Frogbs, could you give some kind of account of the order in which you first got into these records, to the extent that you can remember? Reading the list I think I can infer how your musical tastes evolved, but I may be completely wrong.

Well, my Dad was really into the Police, Devo, and ELP, so that was kind of my upbringing. actually it was my mailman who first told me about King Crimson. I bought "In the Court" (the only CD my local shop had) and from there discovered George Starostin's website. TBH I have a hard time reading it now but that was monumentally important in defining my musical tastes. That's how I found out about Genesis and Yes. Through Mark Prindle I really got into Sparks. Then later (thanks somewhat to this board) I started to learn that the "mediocre prog" bands that Starostin (and most of the WRC) would refer to like Van der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant were maybe better than the "classic" groups. But of course Close to the Edge and In the Court are basically unimpeachable.

As for the electro side - I loved Fatboy Slim as a teenager. Amazon.com led me to Underworld who have been one of my very favorites for a long, long time. And of course most of those guys are into Orbital. Much of the rest I discovered through YMO, which was a very lucky find. I think two of the Duran Duran guys did a comp that I got used which had a YMO track I really liked on it. Through that I found the site technopop.info which has information on a lot of great Japanese acts that aren't really written about in English. That's how I found out about Denki Groove (one of my very favorite electronic acts now) and P-Model, who I had heard before because Polysics had covered them. But at the time I had no idea just how expansive the P-Model discography really was.

For the rest...Gordon Lightfoot I loved from the outset, like 10 years ago I used to work at Burger King at we would ALWAYS play a Lightfoot Greatest Hits disc when we closed. Soul Coughing was kind of a friend of a friend thing, didn't think I'd top 50 them but Ruby Vroom has really hit me hard lately. TMBG are a similar story.

frogbs:

have you ever listened to "The Spirituality" by the Desert Fathers?

you might like it IMO

http://www.amazon.com/Spirituality-Desert-Fathers/dp/B0000C9JEW

"...and Talking Heads stealing afrobeat"

ha! 'afrobeat' is a derivative water downed porridge itself.

voted Talking Heads

ok, was tuff call between dolby and devo, but in the end, it has to be devo.

upper: this is pretty interesting. Dunno if it's something I'll listen to a lot but though. I hear a little Barnes & Barnes in there. Who were these guys?

really digging a Juan Atkins comp "Metropolis 1985", thanks for recommending that guy (another on the very long list of important musical artists that I have sadly never actually listened to)

and the terrible live album.

totally insane opinion

really digging a Juan Atkins comp "Metropolis 1985"

Is that the Model 500 stuff? Good stuff if so. Thought you might like the Cybotron as it's very Kraftwerky but also I think it's endearingly new wave and goofy in places.

cool list frogbs! a lot of my own faves are on here, along some new stuff that i'll have to check out. the thomas dolby pick is a good reminder - i always see it in my local record store for $3 and i don't know why i haven't picked it up yet, because i'm a huge fan of the earlier numan, devo, buggles stuff. i haven't heard anything by Susumu Hirasawa, so i'll give him a listen soon.

q: I am concentrating at your list and I am guessing you'd be really, really, really into Ornette and Parliament

q: I assume that that you're already familiar with fusion-era Miles and Herbie Hancock, frogbs?

a: I do like Parliament a lot - the others I know of and have a few albums by (except Coleman) but in general that's a genre I don't really get and all these dudes have zillions of albums

kind of an obvious thing to say, but have you heard Bitches Brew yet? it's easy to get lost in the miles davis catalog but if you're looking for an entry point it's a fine album to sink yourself into for a few months.

Is that the Model 500 stuff? Good stuff if so. Thought you might like the Cybotron as it's very Kraftwerky but also I think it's endearingly new wave and goofy in places.

I got it wrong - it's this: http://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/juan_atkins/20_years_1985___2005/
I'm not too familiar with Atkins obviously but I think this covers most of it. When I heard that DaM-Funk had a 2+ hour album coming this was exactly the sound I was hoping for. Dunno what the essentials are outside of this

Godbluff

kind of an obvious thing to say, but have you heard Bitches Brew yet? it's easy to get lost in the miles davis catalog but if you're looking for an entry point it's a fine album to sink yourself into for a few months.

it's one I keep reminding myself to come back to. I bought the CD like 6 years ago, didn't really get into it, and kinda forgot about it, but it's always been in my mind as the sort of album I might come back to and really enjoy later (like I did with Soft Machine's Third)

the thomas dolby pick is a good reminder - i always see it in my local record store for $3 and i don't know why i haven't picked it up yet, because i'm a huge fan of the earlier numan, devo, buggles stuff. i haven't heard anything by Susumu Hirasawa, so i'll give him a listen soon.

I really love the 2009 edition which restores the original tracklisting and has some incredible bonus tracks. Chances are a $3 copy wouldn't be that but the "other" tracklisting (which begins with "Science") is about as good.

As for Hirasawa, I can't recommend him enough - this isn't on any of the albums listed, but if I had to express why the dude is awesome in about 3 minutes I'd use this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/2MaYy2Spctg&fs=1&hl=en

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Is this some sort of canon thing where none of your favorite 50 are really less than a decade old?

pretty sure i voted twice. is that possible?

mh - I already answered something about this above, I think it just kinda wound up that way rather than by design. Also I don't really know who the good modern artists really are.

I didn't go over it with a fine tooth comb, but is the Boredoms album the only overlap between this and the Moka list? Seems like an odd place to intersect. I should go back and listen to it again.

― dlp9001, domingo 8 de septiembre de 2013 16:06 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

At the time of posting my only list was that fom the 90s in which the Boredoms record was in fact the only overlapping album... Frogbs list is heavy on the 70s. ILM had a great century poll in which Boredoms made te top 50 albums of the century iirc. I have already posted my 60s and 70s picks in which frogbs and me overlap in the following albums: Can, King Crimson, Sparks, Devo and Kinks. Out of all of these I'm voting for Ege Bamyasi because it's one of my top 10 desert island records.

I don't know how to recommend that Boredoms record. For me it was a right place, right time sort of thing.

devo. bunch of stuff vying for the #2 slot: tago mago, super ae, before & after science, remain in light.

some interesting choices, though strikingly short on emotional/hormonal/physical vigor when taken as a whole.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

wow, the New Wave stuff did way better. I wasn't even sure whether or not to include Remain in Light in the first place. It does make me smile to see some of the stuff that got votes though. Who voted for Echolyn? Is there a member of Echolyn on ILX?

SOME NEW STUFF...I decided that Max Tundra's 2008 album deserves a spot easily, plus this EXCELLENT Indian pop album called "Colonial Cousins" which ISNT ON RYM!! But I write about it here!!!

Max Tundra teeters on the edge of greatness without necessarily toppling imo, although his contribution to The Exquisite Corpse Game was pretty much a career highlight, so his next record might be The One. If that album was all as good as Orphaned and Until We Die...

Also sorry dude but these results just emphasise how much I loathe Talking Heads

Always surprised by how highly people rate that album

(I like THeads btw)

Well it's the most well-known out of all of those so I'm not surprised. I almost booted it off the list b/c I don't really listen to it much but every time I do I gotta say I'm really impressed by it.

The Max Tundra album has a lot of excellent cuts on it, especially Which Song which may be my favorite single of the decade. Only track that rubs me the wrong way is the opener which I find rather dull. I too think that his next album will probably be his best one, but I wonder at this point if we'll ever see it...

Which Song is gr8 as well yeah. Was fkn hilarious when Will Get Fooled Again wound up in the EOY trax countdown and yr usual lot listened in horror

max tundra is still the worst shit out there. a remarkable long career of shit.

listening to Which Song over and over is what convinced me I had to include it here. it's one of those songs that fully explains why he takes 6 years between albums. I thought it was awesome when he appeared on the Exquisite Corpse Game, even if his sound palette is remarkably different than everyone else on there it's pretty clear that he's cut from the same cloth (and seems to attract the same type of fans)

well yeah if there's a man who will spend 1 week perfecting 10 seconds of music it's this bro

frogbs, you may enjoy this guy, he is from the same scene that MT sprung from.

http://thegasman.bandcamp.com/

yeah the "13" album is floating my boat so far

I looked for Frogbs on the Fleetwood Mac - Tusk thread. He isn't there.
I looked Tusk on this thread. It isn't there.

Did you rave about that album elsewhere because I could have swore your enthusiasm convinced me to buy it?

hah, no, definitely not me! maybe it's time?

Yeah it's a great album.

THIS THREAD DOESNT SEEM SO STUPID NOW DOES IT!???

I mean I'd do mine but I don't want a Spirit Of Eden walkover, which is what it would be

Don't tempt me.

frogs, no thread ever posted on ilx has ever been stupid; save for the ones posted by me, but that's usually kinda the point whenever i start one.

ooh ooh, maybe i should poll my most hated albums ever!

Do

it

!

i'd have to put some serious thought into that. i'm sure coming up with a top 50 or whatever would be easy, just have to set aside the time to do it.

this was fun, should I do it again? :)

Soul Coughing, that's a band I don't see mentioned on here, like, ever.

Would have voted future days, or maybe ITKOTKC (nearly went on mine)

You already know my opinion on doing it again

there would be a lot more ILX fodder this time around I think

suggest ban if u voted for the kinks over boredoms, magma, cluster, ruins, etc.