Play Me Some Simpin, Mane: Drake - Nothing Was the Same

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im into 'worst behavior' & 'the language'

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

Ack! Keep forgetting that "Take Care" was a single!

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

"305 to my city" is total garb

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

actually i kinda like this song... there's at least layers to this beat

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link

305 to my city is def the weakest on the record

i like this album more than any of his others. from a musical POV, it's easily the strongest imo.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

I liked the "Take Care" through "We'll Be Fine" sequence on TC, with Drake working his flow around the sumptuous beats. After this one he's just going MEH MEH MEH MEH in that way of his I can't stand.

I like "Hold On, We're Going Home" more now than I did last month, although I gotta get over this lech singing "You're a good girl and you know it"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

the hooks, the beats, songfulness in general are stepped up in a big way

too bad everything he raps abt is so lost-in-your-head boring

'hold on we're going home' is like the reverse 'take care' to me in that it sounds better on the album than radio

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

I haven't managed to fall for "Hold On" yet. I guess I'm looking forward to hearing the album, but "Started From The Bottom" kinda killed my boner for this.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

agreed that "305 to my city" is the weakest thing here, down to the why-didn't-you-just-get-future? eye-rolling detail appearance.

i dunno though, i've always found drake relatable-- moreso than kanye, even, and that holds for me on this record.

I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

no one would know detail was on that song if he hadn't decided to put him on the tracklist

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link

from a musical POV, it's easily the strongest imo.

yeah i just don't get this at all. take care has better production by MILES.

if you really dig the production on this album you should go back and listen to 'so far gone' ... it's a dead ringer in a lot of places

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

better beats than just about anything on this album

over my dead body, take care, marvin's room, lord knows, cameras, doing it wrong, the real her, look what you've done, the ride

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

sensitivity is fine but aubs is a pretty poor example thereof

The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

it's not really sensitivity though, it's scare-tildes sensitivity, sensitivity as posturing, it's pure ego. drake has never once penned a line that makes me think "THAT REALNESS" - he has no insights into the human condition to offer. the hardman mockery of him has never quite rung true b/c obv there's nothing wrong with emotion or sensitivity as countless rappers before him have demonstrated; it's because he uses signifiers of it to prop up his ego

his best singles are obviously "best i ever had" and "the motto" btw, "take care" is piss-weak and "started from the bottom" is laughable

lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link

that was my exact point, fool

The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link

check ralph tresvant iirc

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

Loving this alternative cover:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSPb3JiCYAEmj_P.jpg

longneck, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

Ironic 'started from the bottom' tweets vs serious ones. Which is worse?

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

I don't like the songwriting or beats on any of those songs j0

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

Renn what do u find "relateable" about drake? Other than being Canadian lol

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

how does anyone solemnly sit thru 'the language' without mentally shouting versaceversaceversaceversace over the verses idgi

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link

"the motto" and "best i ever had" are the best drake singles

druhilla (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

I don't like the songwriting or beats on any of those songs j0

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:36 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

o___________O

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

i certainly don't see what makes them superior to the production on this record

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

imo everything is just tighter ... less meandering

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

katherine's tumblr post on this was really good

乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

d, i'll respond to this when i have more time. just wanted to say i'm not ignoring your question.

I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link

Yes! What she said about "Hold On..." is what I tried to say last night. It's such a stupid song, lacking any of Drake's "self-awareness" or whatever.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

lot of great pop songs are stupid though

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

katherine's tumblr post on this was really good

― 乒乓, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:48 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
link?

lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

oh hi

a) thanks!

b) http://katherinestasaph.tumblr.com/post/61597928034/some-scattered-thoughts-on-the-drake-album-and-women

c) (anything stupid said in this post is due to writing it at like 2 a.m. with a neck cramp. this is my story that I am sticking to etc)

katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

hah i wasn't sure if linking to it would be cool or not. but yeah, really good

乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link

lot of great pop songs are stupid though

― J0rdan S

yes but this pop song asks us to feel sympathy for the hero saying overwrought, masochistic twaddle about his relationship

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

tbh it would be better if it were at all masochistic

katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

"Endlessly, I can't get over you/You left your mark on me" sounds masochistic to me

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

ennhh, just sounds like generic pickup-line flattery

katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

oh man you mention the GTA V review "fallout" which made me swear this is my last year in the fuckin' game.

lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

great piece katherine.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

yah

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

I like this album a lot, but ultimately I'm probably filing this away in the Late Registration/Amnesiac/Neon Bible folder of really good, not-quite-great albums that don't do quite enough to distinguish themselves from their predecessors so they can't quite escape the shadow of the album that came before them

Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link

i can't wrap my head around the idea that late registration isn't distinguished from college dropout

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link

Probably stupid of me to open up another Late Registration debate, especially since I do love that album. But ultimately I think of it mostly as a continuation of College Dropout, expanding on the same ideas. It adds some new tweaks and offers some amazing standouts, but doesn't break radically from what came before it. It's not an 808s or a Yeezus.

Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link

i prefer LR but i don't object to the idea. he practically asked for his 2nd and 3rd albums to be thought of that way with their titles.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link

same way Drake was practically asking for obvious jokes by making another Drake album and calling it Nothing Was The Same

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link

lol the ideal rapgenius artist

Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link

excellent stuff as ever, katherine. (can someone explain the GTA thing to me quickly? video games are so far off my radar i don't even know what they look like.)

But I don’t have Drake feelings; to me they’re almost a red flag. If someone tells me he relates to women the way Drake would, I would be rather put off.

POW

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link

bonus pts for the "matte black truck" mention obv

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link

the other thing i liked about that reminder is kalenna presaging the wu tang glomming

r|t|c, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link

i'm listening to this now and i physically shuddered at "girl don't treat me like a stranger, girl you know i seen you naked" pathetic attempt at power play. this dude is gross

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link

I'm not being an original here but ugh, massive cringe at the 'Courtney from Hooters on Peachtree' line.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 20 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link


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