im into 'worst behavior' & 'the language'
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
Ack! Keep forgetting that "Take Care" was a single!
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
"305 to my city" is total garb
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
actually i kinda like this song... there's at least layers to this beat
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
305 to my city is def the weakest on the record
i like this album more than any of his others. from a musical POV, it's easily the strongest imo.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
I liked the "Take Care" through "We'll Be Fine" sequence on TC, with Drake working his flow around the sumptuous beats. After this one he's just going MEH MEH MEH MEH in that way of his I can't stand.
I like "Hold On, We're Going Home" more now than I did last month, although I gotta get over this lech singing "You're a good girl and you know it"
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
the hooks, the beats, songfulness in general are stepped up in a big way
too bad everything he raps abt is so lost-in-your-head boring
'hold on we're going home' is like the reverse 'take care' to me in that it sounds better on the album than radio
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
I haven't managed to fall for "Hold On" yet. I guess I'm looking forward to hearing the album, but "Started From The Bottom" kinda killed my boner for this.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
agreed that "305 to my city" is the weakest thing here, down to the why-didn't-you-just-get-future? eye-rolling detail appearance.
i dunno though, i've always found drake relatable-- moreso than kanye, even, and that holds for me on this record.
― I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
no one would know detail was on that song if he hadn't decided to put him on the tracklist
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link
from a musical POV, it's easily the strongest imo.
yeah i just don't get this at all. take care has better production by MILES.
if you really dig the production on this album you should go back and listen to 'so far gone' ... it's a dead ringer in a lot of places
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
better beats than just about anything on this album
over my dead body, take care, marvin's room, lord knows, cameras, doing it wrong, the real her, look what you've done, the ride
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
sensitivity is fine but aubs is a pretty poor example thereof
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
it's not really sensitivity though, it's scare-tildes sensitivity, sensitivity as posturing, it's pure ego. drake has never once penned a line that makes me think "THAT REALNESS" - he has no insights into the human condition to offer. the hardman mockery of him has never quite rung true b/c obv there's nothing wrong with emotion or sensitivity as countless rappers before him have demonstrated; it's because he uses signifiers of it to prop up his ego
his best singles are obviously "best i ever had" and "the motto" btw, "take care" is piss-weak and "started from the bottom" is laughable
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 06:29 (ten years ago) link
that was my exact point, fool
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link
check ralph tresvant iirc
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
Loving this alternative cover:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSPb3JiCYAEmj_P.jpg
― longneck, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
Ironic 'started from the bottom' tweets vs serious ones. Which is worse?
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
I don't like the songwriting or beats on any of those songs j0
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Renn what do u find "relateable" about drake? Other than being Canadian lol
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
how does anyone solemnly sit thru 'the language' without mentally shouting versaceversaceversaceversace over the verses idgi
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
"the motto" and "best i ever had" are the best drake singles
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:36 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
o___________O
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
i certainly don't see what makes them superior to the production on this record
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
imo everything is just tighter ... less meandering
katherine's tumblr post on this was really good
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
d, i'll respond to this when i have more time. just wanted to say i'm not ignoring your question.
― I make $94k Based God (rennavate), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
Yes! What she said about "Hold On..." is what I tried to say last night. It's such a stupid song, lacking any of Drake's "self-awareness" or whatever.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
lot of great pop songs are stupid though
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
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― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
oh hi
a) thanks!
b) http://katherinestasaph.tumblr.com/post/61597928034/some-scattered-thoughts-on-the-drake-album-and-women
c) (anything stupid said in this post is due to writing it at like 2 a.m. with a neck cramp. this is my story that I am sticking to etc)
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
hah i wasn't sure if linking to it would be cool or not. but yeah, really good
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
― J0rdan S
yes but this pop song asks us to feel sympathy for the hero saying overwrought, masochistic twaddle about his relationship
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
tbh it would be better if it were at all masochistic
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
"Endlessly, I can't get over you/You left your mark on me" sounds masochistic to me
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
ennhh, just sounds like generic pickup-line flattery
― katherine, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
oh man you mention the GTA V review "fallout" which made me swear this is my last year in the fuckin' game.
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
great piece katherine.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
yah
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
I like this album a lot, but ultimately I'm probably filing this away in the Late Registration/Amnesiac/Neon Bible folder of really good, not-quite-great albums that don't do quite enough to distinguish themselves from their predecessors so they can't quite escape the shadow of the album that came before them
― Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link
i can't wrap my head around the idea that late registration isn't distinguished from college dropout
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link
Probably stupid of me to open up another Late Registration debate, especially since I do love that album. But ultimately I think of it mostly as a continuation of College Dropout, expanding on the same ideas. It adds some new tweaks and offers some amazing standouts, but doesn't break radically from what came before it. It's not an 808s or a Yeezus.
― Evan R, Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link
i prefer LR but i don't object to the idea. he practically asked for his 2nd and 3rd albums to be thought of that way with their titles.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
same way Drake was practically asking for obvious jokes by making another Drake album and calling it Nothing Was The Same
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 19 September 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link
lol the ideal rapgenius artist
― Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link
excellent stuff as ever, katherine. (can someone explain the GTA thing to me quickly? video games are so far off my radar i don't even know what they look like.)
But I don’t have Drake feelings; to me they’re almost a red flag. If someone tells me he relates to women the way Drake would, I would be rather put off.
POW
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:11 (ten years ago) link
bonus pts for the "matte black truck" mention obv
the other thing i liked about that reminder is kalenna presaging the wu tang glomming
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:43 (ten years ago) link
i'm listening to this now and i physically shuddered at "girl don't treat me like a stranger, girl you know i seen you naked" pathetic attempt at power play. this dude is gross
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link
I'm not being an original here but ugh, massive cringe at the 'Courtney from Hooters on Peachtree' line.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 20 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link