tipping

"under no circumstances are you allowed to not tip them 20%. none."

this is simply not true. furthermore, your absolutist rule is well, well outside of the mainstream of American tipping culture. rude waiters or servers are not entitled to one red cent. if someone can't make a living wage waiting because they are too rude to qualify for tips, they need to find another job where they don't deal directly with the public.

this isn't singling out tipped employees for abuse. globally ALL workers who deal with the public face fiscal penalties for rudeness to customers - usually in the form of customer complaints, having raises or promotions withheld or losing their jobs. tipped employees are in a unique situation where they face immediate censure for poor service, but in the long run non-tipped employees also have financial incentives to behave politely.

i just don't understand why people think getting rid of tipping and raising wages change anything in terms of what people are making doing these jobs. the same behaviors or attitudes that lead to less tips also lead to people getting canned repeatedly from their jobs. and the higher the minimum wage is the more careful employers are about hiring and the more reluctant they are to hire people who have been fired multiple times from jobs.

and for the record i can't think of one instance where i haven't tipped at a restaurant or similar establishment, but if i was ever subject to some of the horror stories i have heard, i would feel fully justified in cutting my tip or not tipping.

shut up dude

― flopson, Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah bro, you can eat a dicc

I'd imagine real wages would rise on the low end and decrease on the high end if tipping were eliminated, but that would need to be accompanied by tax credits to account for unclaimed tips.

i wouldn't do anything about it, service is service is service and one shouldn't feel entitled to good service, it's just something you subject yourself to when you eat at a sit down restaurant. when you tie the perceived quality of service to the amount of money you leave, you start getting into these issues of control using money and everything just starts to feel gross.

― 乒乓

but i mean this is complete nonsense

you start getting into these issues of control using money and everything just starts to feel gross

this is a horrible analysis of tipping but a great description of capitalism

Love these threads so much as a Brit.

there are places that are famous for their deliberately contemptuous service but which are still loved; cf. the entire city of paris, also there's a seafood place in boston that i can't remember the name of? they literally throw your napkin at you when you sit down. there is something to the idea of going with the flow. it can feel tremendous to let go of the idea that your food needs to come quickly; i believe in some places this is called "relaxing"

Last big meal out was with 8+ diners and the place gave us really grudging service all night - insisting that we only had a two-hour 'slot' for our meal when that would end 30 minutes before the kitchen closed, then wasting a lot of that time by not returning for 15-20 minutes to take our drinks order. Because of the size of our group, there was no way we could adjust tip for attitude (big groups get a mandatory service charge) without involving the manager. It felt arbitrary because the host/person who booked it swears the restaurant failed to mention anything about meal timings when he arranged it.

cf. the entire city of paris

otm

dmac, come fight me

the reason you tip is because waiters work shitty jobs (like a bunch of other people in different parts of the service industry) and are paid below the minimum wage, legally.

not in San Francisco. Minimum wage is $10.55/hr - tipped employees or not

If you would only grace ilf with yr presence youd know why im indisposed and have a gang over, tomorrow maybe

reading a tipping thread while having the gang over, i sympathize

Tippling point

but do you tipple an extra dollar a drink, even if it's an overpriced can of PBR?

Its included in dublin prices, believe me

I just watched two students from Switzerland tip the cashier at Burger King

how much?

I couldn't tell, it was a "keep the change" situation but dude counted out a specific amount of money (including coins), pushed it across the counter and was like "no, I'm all set" and then turned to his friend like "see, I got this tipping thing!"

I am pretty sure they then went to sit down before their food was ready.

<3

have you any idea what a burger king costs in zurich tho

That's the thing I didn't get; Burger King is in Switzerland, right? Surely it works the same way there as it does here?

i been to mcdonalds there, the concept is certainly the same there, except you pay p much restaurant prices.

maybe they just got confused

Just a case of "In America you tip at restaurants, in Europe you don't" I guess.

^this. I tipped a kid in my building when he helped me carry my suitcase up the stairs, I could hear him yelling "That guy just gave me money!" afterwards

ha yeah i tried to tip my doorman early on when i moved here (he took a pretty elaborate delivery for me). he lolled at me when i tried to give him the money.

he won't be lolling when i give him $5 at xmas, let me tell you.

They don't call it a quarter pounder with cheese?

royale with cheese iirc?

Bartender:"You gave me too much." when I tipped her. hahahahahaha

that's classic

you don't have to tip on planes in the 1950s (was at a dinner party at the weekend and this was handed round for some reason and I thought of ilx)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/10068550505_1d68878243_o_d.jpg

http://we-cannot-have-nice-things.tumblr.com/post/66549476058/how-to-convince-a-waiter-to-go-atheist

Tip the house painter y/n?

Ida said y

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-jersey-waitress-victim-discrimination-forged-receipt-article-1.1529227

well this has taken a strange turn - particularly how the restaurant claims they have the original receipt and comped a meal to ensure she was tipped, yet the Visa statement shows the 111.55 amount.

movers? two dudes and a van. $30 each? $50?

http://www.mattneuman.com/siren.gif

somewhere in that range. no one ever died wishing theyd been less generous

if ikea is delivering some stuff to my apt do we tip these dudes

i always tip furniture delivery people. shit is heavy and also they know where you live and what kind of stuff you have.

otm (nb im not american even ffs)

You people are crazy.

https://www.facebook.com/bodybuildersagainsttipping

http://i.imgur.com/QKYrHLn.jpg

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/kill-em-all.jpg

Gotta be satire. https://www.facebook.com/bodybuildersagainsttipping

Awesome night out at Texas Roadhouse..got a great chest pump while eating there, I'll explain.

I forgot I was wearing my tank top ( Ha ha jk, but not to show off ) and the girls working were begging to see me in action. I seriously refused until the whole right section of the roadhouse was cheering me on, so had no choice. They had 2 of these huge beer kegs in the back. I'm not an expert on weight but I can guarantee you they were at least 175 pounds, so 400 together. So I'm laying on the broiler and I repped out at least 16 deep presses, while the waitresses are feeling my calves haha gotta love it. I could tell the guy who was my server was pissed and can only imagine his anger when he checked my receipt. Just another night out as a wealthy bodybuilder.

#NOTIPS #lightweight #noSPOTnoTIPS

Ahhahaha what the fuuuuuuck!!

Somewhat-unrelated: I just started working as a parking attendant/security guard & already two people have tipped me for MAKING THEM MOVE THEIR CARS--wtf, drunk rich guys!

One dude was like "hey, good lookin out, somebody might've tried to tow me!" -- I didn't have the heart to tell him that I am the one who calls the tow company in that scenario