come anticipate the BBC's iPlayer with me

Ed it can do full-screen, which is basically the same thing. Full-screen Flash is kind of a high-end option, though. My old iBook struggles with it.

Matt yeah the rights issues are a nightmare with sport. :/

Virgin's On Demand thing doesn't carry sport either. I end up using ukn0v4 for MOTD most weeks.

It was okay once I got it working, but the iPlayer is never going to be a satisfactory substitute for ukn0v@ unless they get a decent selection of shows available. The last time I looked they were carrying just two programs from BBC4, neither of which was what I was looking for. Rubbish!

For BBC Four I see

- George Melly's Last Stand
- Brasil Brasil
- Love Soup
- Pop Go the Sixties
- Mark Lawson Talks to David Renwick
- Legends
- Bulgaria' Abandoned Children
- Watching the Russians
- The Late Edition
- The Sky At Night
- Flying Visits
- The History of the World Backwards
- Brasil Brasil: A Tale of Four Cities
- Brasil Brasil: The Tropicalia Revolution
- Brasil Brasil: From Samba to Bossa

It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel - you have to look at a certain day first or do a keyword search, and THEN filter by channel.

i forgot to install this

b-b-but the point is that now you don't have to install anything!

> It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel

it is. maybe they are trying to get away from the idea of channels given that traditionally channels were only there because it was the only way of having a choice at any given time, you had to physically switch between the channels. but i think the channels as genre / brand thing still works.

(still no 64 bit flash for linux btw. can wrap the 32 bit version with a netscape plugin but...)

if anything they're trying to brand and distinguish their channels more than ever. somewhat foolishly imo.

BBC has always been about branding and distinguishing their channels, even when there were only two of them.

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though.

OK, now finally no nonsense about downloading codexes and DRM. It is now officially actually good! Only took them six months!

ITVs

1: coronation street
2: X factor behind the scenes shit
3: poirot
4: police camera action with alastair "one for the road" stewart

I've just looked and yeah the iPlayer actually IS now a lot better. Also, convenient link to the radio stuff as well.

Do you still need to download to go full-screen though? I refuse to watch telly in tiny windows.

I am in the role of Beeb apologist here I realise, but I just want to point out that it's not like they just thought of this (Flash). Flash video simply took too long to encode and also is pretty CPU-intensive on the client side. With the new Flash encoding tools (which include H.264) this is better. Also the BBC has felt for years that the Flash audio codecs are not up to snuff, so a lot of the wait has been negotiating better ones with Adobe.

Matt if you DL and install the latest version of Flash player, it will do full screen (it's the little icon in the extreme bottom right).

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though

I am not aware of the differences but neither do I see it as a real problem (OK this is partly because there's hardly anything on them worth the watch but still 'the Beeb' retains the most value as a brand term itself, despite all the compartmentalism). Note that The South Bank Show remains defiantly on ITV1 tho at a day and time you wouldn't expect anyone else to think was a good idea, and hasn't been shunted off to a 'arts programming for the sniffy elitists' digital alcove. So it's interesting that ITV don't see the need to divide subjects/markets up like that. Maybe it would make more commercial sense to do so, even more demographic sense to do so but I like that they haven't.

did they make the radio streams higher quality, too? the radio 3 one is pretty acceptable now (only 65kbps, it says, but it sounds a better than that to me).

booo geolocation

I'm wearing NATO schwag around my neck right now I should be fucking allowed to watch The Mighty Boosh

I watched the George Melly documentary via flash streaming yesterday evening. The picture quality is only barely acceptable in full-screen mode.

http://www.twindx.com/node/276

This is amazing - hopefully this loophole never gets closed.

Very nice, but I don't see it staying open for long.

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WHat did I do wrong?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/13/iplayer_iphone_drm_loophole_closed/

http://po-ru.com/diary/bbc-iplayer-fix-hacked-again/

Now available on Wii

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/09/bbc_iplayer_wii/

This has probably been commented on 2000 times on ILX, but has anybody else noticed the volume slider on the iPlayer goes up to 11?

Top.

UK ISPs are demanding the BBC help pay for their shoddy networks now because of iPlayer's success. Did they think shaping illegal downloading was going to work forever and there'd never be legitimate need for the bandwidth they promise? xp

There's a good analysis on the Reg about how a large part of the problem is BT not selling dark fibre for the backhaul, only allowing ISPs to connect to their exchanges with their fibre products which, naturally, are a bit over priced.

NV, that nugget has made my day. i don't want to think about what that says about my day.

I noticed the other week, couldn't find an appropriate thread, and then assumed that everybody would already know and I wd be publicly mocked anyway.

more old programmes needed

Match of the Day needed, ffs. Any idea when the BBC might sort out the rights issues for this, anyone?

Never

Note that The South Bank Show remains defiantly on ITV1 tho at a day and time you wouldn't expect anyone else to think was a good idea, and hasn't been shunted off to a 'arts programming for the sniffy elitists' digital alcove.

it's now on Sky Arts :/

haven't the bbc lost motd again?

I thought they'd just lost coverage of England games, not Premiership highlights?

In 2006, the BBC agreed a new deal with the Premier League which means that league highlights coverage will continue on Match of the Day until at least the end of the 2009-10 season.

you are correct so yeah they really do need to sort that out. i might use the thing if they do.

The thing with putting MOTD into an 'anytime anywhere' system is that once you do you'd probably find most people don't need the whole programme and just want to see certain games, goals etc. so separating the content for online/on-demand consumption or at least providing that option makes sense (plus who gives a toss about Alan Analyses anyway).

They've really clamped down on PL action on youtube over the last few months I've noticed.

That could apply to a lot of shows that are broken up into several segments - Newsnight, for example, or the Culture Show. But yeah, probably more so with MOTD but I doubt the Premiership will lose much sleep over that.

I use the iPlayer almost exclusively now. Don't think I've watched the BBC in a few months. And since I almost exclusively watch BBC programmes (with a bit of ITV2 and CH4 thrown in) I've radically cut down my TV watching!

Anyone been following The Curse of Comedy series??

Of course, I could just get a Humax and be done with it.

Internet football rights are sold as a separate package now. So the Beeb couldn't show Match of the Day online as those rights are owned by the company that runs all the individual club websites, by the look of it. For the same reason you usually can't get BBC local radio live commentaries any more.

Anyone been following The Curse of Comedy series??
Yes, thanks to iPlayer

Tried out the Wii one. Quality's a bit low, there's no full-screen and the sound gets out of sync a lot. Not quite there.

also wii browsing sucks doesn't it??

The volume goes up to eleven.

Is the Wii thing any better yet? I could set the whole thing up and find out, I guess, but I thought I'd ask before I bothered my arse doing any hard work.

The .exe on this page is interesting.

Indeed.

Agreed, you have to sift through a lot of curling to get to something with watching. It’s worse on AppleTV because scrubbing through shows is so painful.

Olympics aside the search function is atrocious, it can’t find words within titles most of the time.

Huh search works p well for me - maybe the Apple TV build is different somehow

They do have these 2-3 minute highlight clips of big moments but I want to see the whole event. And just that event, without other stuff sandwiched around it that I have to fight through. It's bizarre that you can't just dial up "Women's Super-G Final".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/accountability/consultations/bbc-iplayer-public-interest

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ha whoops. well, the email link is in the above URL