lydia lunch worship thread

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he wasn't and they wren't a duo.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

thank you, Serious Cat

smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD xp

乒乓, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

if yr talking about the band, he isn't on any of their recordings.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

allegedly

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

Murder rap is one of my favourite genres of music. I don't think there's any murder rap around at the moment

fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

that was where I started going "DANGER WILL ROBINSON" but I didn't expect the turn that happened

smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

I've always had a place in my heart for Atomic Bongos. Always reminds me of Butt Bongo Fiesta. That's about it though.

how's life, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

ach, i love her anyway. saying ridiculous things and annoying people is her raison d'être. she has made a ton of great records, is a most entertaining live performers and is surprisingly sweet in real life.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

she exemplifies a particular strain of loudly transgressive moron. like if you made a papier-maché performance artist out of a stack of re/search books.

adam, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link

Atomic Bongos and the one with Rowland S. Howard are classics, but yeah she always struck me as not being, how to put this, the brightest black crayon in the goth box

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

Have you heard her current thing, the Big Sexy Bloozehammer thing? It's as painful as a George Thorogood opening act at Rockoberfest. Which pains me especially cause I love the Gallon Drunk guys who are backing her. But as aero says, it's hardly a case of the might having fallen. Amazed at the company she's been able to keep.

bendy, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

Bit rich for ILM to be down on talking about Miley considering the 10,000 post thread on that subject. And if she wants to call herself a Whigger let her. God, ILM has become so fucking sanctimonious lately. It's Lydia Lunch folks. There is no vindication to be had from her "unsettling" you poor saps since being unsettling is her thing.

everything, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

everything but reading comprehension, apparently

smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

good to know Lydia Lunch has always expressed vaguely racist Mandingo-worship tendencies though, I didn't know this about her

smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

Well, now you know that I guess.

everything, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

but yeah she always struck me as not being, how to put this, the brightest black crayon in the goth box

f**k this. really!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

f**k spelling it whigger on that william henry harrison shit anyway

adam, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Xp Why is that? No troll

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

How about you firstly tell us why you think she is unintelligent.

everything, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

well there's http://thequietus.com/articles/13483-lydia-lunch-favourite-albums

adam, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

it sounds more like an older person trying to sound "relevant" than anything else

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

why would LYDIA LUNCH of all people need to worry about sounding relevant, and why would she big-up Bo$$ if that's what she was trying to do?

smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

what does "need to worry" have to do with it? That's what it sounds like to me -- it's like when older white try to seem "down" and use language that used to be acceptable when discussing black people that now comes off as racist and pandering

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

This thread is relevant to this discussion (from the part where the Lester Bangs essay comes up):
black people and punk rock

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

was that language ever really "acceptable"?

fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

the bo$$ bit reads better if you imagine her saying "they gotta go down" in a keanu reeves voice.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

she sounds a bit like Bea Arthur in person

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

the bo$$ bit reads better if you imagine her saying "they gotta go down" in a keanu reeves lord custos voice.

fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

I'm not arguing that what she said wasn't cringeworthy in its use of racist language -- I think we can agree there, crut? Dan?

What I am arguing is that by her selections she is trying to position herself as still culturally relevant and engaged and not a 50-something year old female musician that is best known for things she did about 30 years ago so who gives a shit now? And it is totally in character for her not to pick her top whatever indie albums on some indie blog, because she doesn't want to be "corny indie," and being into "hardcore" rap is a great way to signify that you aren't corny indie -- this is something ilx can relate to.

Is the problem what she likes or how she talks about what she likes?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

how she talks about what she likes

fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link

It does make me happy that she gave props to Carla Bozulich and Weasel Walter, musicians I think are great and am friends with -- so you can all take my defense with that in mind

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

it sounds more like an older person trying to sound "relevant" than anything else

sarahell otm. the rap write-ups made me cringe (not to mention the black keys as "the best of junior kimbrough"), but the pathos of age keeps me from getting too worked up about it.

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link

haha, i had the thought, "I wonder if Lydia would like Chief Keef," which then reminded me that I am also getting up there in years so

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

You guys know that all those rap albums are ancient. Almost 20 years old.

everything, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

no one is saying that she was successful at her quest for Carlesian relevance

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

blogito ergo sum

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link

i'm not questioning whether she honestly likes rap - obv she does! - i just think the voice she uses in her Bo$$ anecdote is gross, and the word "wigger" is gross (otoh i'm getting very minor lols from imagining her saying it with an aspirated "wh")

fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

Anybody read Paradoxia? I thought it sounded interesting, some people say she makes herself sound like a terrible person.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This video is creeping me out:

http://vimeo.com/100276935

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

What is this all about?

She kinda looks good without a nose. Often, when I contemplate the pleasure that certain faces give me, I ruin the moment by thinking how arbitrary the configuration of faces is: two eyes above a nose above a freaky hole of lips and tongue and the horrorshow of teeth. We find it all lovely, of course, but it's easy to put yourself in the shoes of an alien who would find it pretty grotesque! Nevertheless, watching this video, I realise I am OK with moderate adjustments to the standard template.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 26 September 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

What is this all about?

she's hitting on some comedian called Louis CK of whom I've never heard

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 26 September 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

"some comedian"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 September 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

the video of her artist talk at some art museum in Detroit was pretty good -- I think she's funny, sometimes unintentionally. I know very little about Louis CK but the part about him being a voyeur feels kinda key to the whole thing

sarahell, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Lydia Lunch hates Christmas.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link

she exemplifies a particular strain of loudly transgressive moron. like if you made a papier-maché performance artist out of a stack of re/search books.

― adam, Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:24 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

adam otm

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link

you know that she is interviewed and written about in re/search books, right?

anyway, she is not a moron.

sarahell, Saturday, 27 September 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...
four months pass...

Teenage Jesus & the Jerks AT NYC’S
TRANS-PECOS DECEMBER 11

FEATURING LYDIA LUNCH,
WEASEL WALTER, TIM DAHL

Plus Live 1977 to 1979 album coming out Nov 27th

I liked 8 Eyed Spy the best of her projects that I have heard

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

that walter,tim,bob,lydia lineup is fucking killer live.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link


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