It would have been interesting to see someone take the journalistic approach of the original novel. God, this is gonna suck.
― The Thnig, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Also Sissy Spacek was cute as hell. She just had freckles.
Oh sure. I was re-using the word "cute," but what I meant was that Sissy Spacek doesn't look like conventional hottie, and they were able to make her look mousy.
W/ Moretz, they're doing the Hollywood fake-ugly thing e.g., glasses = frumpy nerd, or in this case, shirts buttoned all the way to the neck and overalls + a crucifix. But even those touches only go so far, and the way she plays the role doesn't look like it will be timid and apologetic enough.
Give her a Virginia Woolf nose, maybe.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah, there's no way a girl that looks like Chloe gets clowned on that level.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
That's why Angela Bettis was good casting. She's just odd enough looking/acting to really believe she'd be ostracized. You wouldn't even need to give her the standard-issue goony glasses.
― The Thnig, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
you are both otm
chloe three names looks like tavi it's not her fault that she's so freaking cute, but it was a poor casting choice
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
the way she plays the role doesn't look like it will be timid and apologetic enough
Yes! Very astute. Sissy Spacek was cute as hell but played mousy very convincingly. Plus like Angela Bettis, you could believe that as cute as she was, people would still pick on her because she had something about her that deviated from the accepted beauty standards of the day (red hair and freckles for Sissy, Angela Bettis's face for Angela Bettis*).
*Not to throw shade on Angela Bettis, but if other circumstances were right, I could definitely see her getting picked on for her looks in high school.
― carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
There's not enough odd-looking/non-conventionally pretty actors now the way there was in the 70s. Who's today's Shelley Duvall?
― kate78, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
Tilda Swinton?
― Neanderthal, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
(in that she can be made to look odd easily)
― Neanderthal, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
<3 Shelley Duvall <3I don't think there is a young Shelley Duvall.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
no way
there is no modern equivalent to Shelly Duvall come on now
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
Tilda Swinton is a full grown adult. Young actresses aren't allowed to look that weird.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
I genuinely believe you can trace the downfall of modern movies to the fact that there is no equivalent to a young Shelly Duvall working in modern movies.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
Tilda also strikes me as one of those preturnaturally British/academically-trained Actors with a capital "A"
Shelly is an American with no training iirc
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
yeah it was just a shot in the dark rly
― Neanderthal, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Better than my best guess:
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/This+Is+40+Premiere+poIR5lI9Quzl.jpg
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Definitely Swinton and Bettis. I think Lili Taylor had a bit of this quality. Emily Watson could have probably played a good Carrie.
― The Thnig, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
who's that other weirdo, the one who maybe played a mute girl once? none of them are as versatile as shelly duvall, but i guess they're weird.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
Amanda Plummer another unconventionally attractive actress put out to pasture. Judy Greer could play either way, hot or weirdo.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
ahhh judy greer. i like her.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2008/12/spe_riding_the_bus_hp_photo.jpg
― anonymous jazz majors (Matt P), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
If they remake Carrie again but with a male lead I hope they avoid the obvious "Cary" and go with the more evocative "Carold."
― The Thnig, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Who's today's Shelley Duvall?
a friend nominates Greta Gerwig. haven't seen her enough to judge (ie, Baghead and Greenberg), she does have a certain awkwardness about her
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
Huge eye roll. Waaaaaay tooooo prettttty.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
that was kind of my reaction
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
hahahaha
http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/b7/628e107e6d11e1bcc4123138165f92/file/greta-gerwig-shot-solo-directorial-debut-last-year-film-could-hit-festival-circuit-as-soon-as-the-fall.jpg
― kate78, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Shelly did cheesecake too but I agree she's just stranger-looking
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Who is the P.J. Soles in this version?
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
Gerwig can play the PJ part.
― The Thnig, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
lol judy greer is playing the betty buckley role in this
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
who's billy nolan?
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
the nice white guy from chronicle
― balls, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
there was a profile of K Peirce in NYT Mag on Sunday... Carrie apparently doesnt kill on purpose in this one. :p
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
"had an allergic reaction to the pig's blood, looked up, everybody was dead. man teendom is HARD :/"
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
My other fave Di Palma
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q5ZOEwjUFc0/UE1waBWGGvI/AAAAAAAAEbk/zHealSN21CI/s1600/Sisters.jpg
― dow, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
Not really a spoiler; the whole thing is the point
Expected this: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/carrie-2013
Did not expect this: http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2013/10/carrie-2013.html
Honestly, would still be completely willing to shrug this off were it not for this, from the latter:
The irony of it is that DePalma's film shares the view of Carrie as a freak; Peirce's sees her as a little girl lost, eaten alive by the burden of fanaticism, class, beauty, biology. The DePalma is about Sue and Kris, the Peirce is about Carrie herself--and therein lies all the difference.
Plus the boys are cuter in the new one, I guess.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
DePalma's film shares the view of Carrie as a freak; Peirce's sees her as a little girl lost, eaten alive by the burden of fanaticism, class, beauty, biology
totally disagree with this
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
insofar as that's a misreading of DePalma's version, that is
Yeah, I like a lot of what Chaw says, but he's absofuckinglutely nuts if he thinks this version is more about Carrie than the '76 version because, um, SISSY SPACEK!!
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
BTW, did I mention how totally pointless this new version is?
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Billy Nolan is kinda cute, but Tommy Ross ain't really my type.
yeah I dunno how he thinks Spacek is upstaged by the supporting roles (great as they are), that's just bonkers. the focus is always on Carrie's untenable predicament, her endurance of abuse, confusion, etc.
xp
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Billy Ross = Chronicle dude, right? Was mostly thinking of him.
Might see this if the opportunity presents itself, which means that it isn't all that likely that I'll see this.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Billy NOLAN. Heh.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Yep. I think he bulked up somewhat since then too.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Urge to see this rising...
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
(incidentally, how has there never been a Treehouse of Horror spoof with Lisa Simpson as Carrie? Unless of course there has been; I stopped watching these the moment Homer started farting spider webs.)
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
yeesh good call, provoked by the simpsons season 2 thread but w/ no actual simpsons on hand i watched the simpsons movie and then decided to give this years treehouse of horror a shot and wow, do not recommend. anyhow i watched a few clips from that last carrie remake and thought 'wow, how pointless was this'. i could see an argument that depalma's carrie is more about amy irving's character, w/ her and william katt and betty buckley representing these benign forces whose token gestures at righting a wrong only serve to make a situation worse. the original's on tonight on some channel. haven't read the book since i was a king fan as a preadolescent, remember it being a similar format to stoker's dracula, different formally than anything king really did after. since this is almost definitely the second best king adaptation it is odd that king has neither embraced it nor done his ott complaining about it like he has w/ the best king adaptation. i don't know if that's cuz carrie is a relatively minor work for him (unlike the shining) or if the vision isn't too far from his own, that there's more of him on the screen vs the shining. also now it seems to me this was a gussied up less blatant nerd revenge fantasy rewrite of rage. neverminding the movies and relative fame, the reason carrie is still in print while rage isn't is probably the same reason ppl keep being tempted to remake it - it's a way to make a hack entertainment that plays on columbine, etc. while keeping it sublimated enough to not draw outrage.
― balls, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
many xpsI always thought of Juliette Lewis as a plain Jane type, but she's not in the current crop of young actresses. Laura Dern too, for that matter.
― nickn, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link