AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

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Nhex, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day: this Sunday's ep was pretty solid. The characters even take some time to talk about stuff that happened in previous seasons.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

yeah, good episode. good coverage by Y2J on the Talking Bad episode afterward too, actually

Nhex, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

And then, not unlike the turn from corpse to zombie, the show gets a lethal case of the stupids. If you're monitoring a host of patients on the cusp of death, and the dead come back to life, and you know many if not most of these people will likely die and come back to eat you with little or no warning, you do your rounds armed, morons.

Also, if hundreds of zombies are massing up against the visibly weakened fence for a few episodes, you don't put that shit off.

I did appreciate how for a minute there the survival of a number of major characters seemed uncertain.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

i actually really liked the episode - pretty effective and exciting overall. the stupidity is sort of explained away by Hershal's stubbornness- Caleb even told him to take the loaded shotgun! if nobody acted stupid there wouldn't be a show, tbh

otoh the Governor reveal was way too easy. guess nobody noticed him stalking around these past months

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link

He's very quiet.

But really, they've showed the fence buckling for a few episodes now, which means several TV-show days. Fix the damn fence! Also, why was whatshername the only person on fence duty? They sent off every able bodied person on their quests and left behind only the sick or infirm? There's stupid, then there's stupid as contrivance, which is less forgivable.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

welll don't forget that they just had like 40 people die on them. the sickness became the pressing issue, on top of them losing a lot of their food, water and medical supplies suddenly. my assumption is that they are fixing the fences each morning, and then each night the Governor or whoever is feeding more rats to the zombies to draw more and more of them in at different points

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

welll don't forget that they just had like 40 people die on them.

Yeah, like, apparently the entire contingent of barely named characters taken in from Woodbury.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

I had concluded that lil' psycho girl was the rat-feeder but hm yeah maybe it was the guvnor all along.

LOL'd derisively at that final shot this week.

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

Weren't the dead rats on the prison side of the fence?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

yeah, so i'm thinking there will be some lame-o explanation of how the governor got in.
or worse - he has a mole in the prison. Bob!

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

I enjoyed being frustrated at the fact that Tyrese ran right to his sister upon return without BRINGING ALL THAT MEDICINE THEY JUST GRABBED?! "lol Daryl bring this later, k?"

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

Also that Maggie had to smash a window to get in, but luckily Tyrese went straight to the same broken entrance to getting easily and quickly

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link

haha. i didn't think about that, but yeah - i assume he didn't climb through the interview room

Nhex, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

One thing that bugs me about the fence is that they've already found a way to reinforce their security around the front gate by putting up a bunch of sharpened logs as barriers. Why on earth wouldn't they try to do the same around the entire perimeter?

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 10:23 (ten years ago) link

Overall, though, I'm enjoying this season more than the others. Still disappointed that Tyreese remains a bit of a non-entity compared to the character in the comics.

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link

Why on earth wouldn't they try to do the same around the entire perimeter?

Or they could have pulled a "Dawn of the Dead" and circled the fence with abandoned trucks and buses.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

it's amazing how this show has a fantastic creature effects department, truly top notch, and yet I somehow they never figured out how to make a realistic looking beard. i couldn't stop laughing at Hobo Governor

good ep though, surprised he's getting his own mini-arc beyond a single episode

Nhex, Monday, 18 November 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, once I soldiered through the first five minutes it was OK. I always hoped they would expand the universe a little beyond the (boring) core group. But that beard was terrible.

Lots of people in this show like to keep zombies lying around as growling pets, apparently. What happened to the Michonne method of taking off their jaw and arms and tying them up to keep away other zombies? Also, how come these zombies are always growling loudly, but you can only hear them when they're within a few feet? And how could anyone have survived months in this world, smart enough to take care of someone with cancer, yet somehow not figure out the only way to kill zombies? Sometimes this show seems like with each episode they must have brought in a new batch of green writers, gave them a two minute synopsis of everything that's happened, said go and then turned over an hourglass.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

they kept advertising the Telltale video game throughout the hour, it kept reminding me how much more I liked Lee and Clementine more than pretty much anyone on the show

but that said, i think they learned their lessons from the drag of season 2, things are moving at a better pace and i'm definitely hooked

Nhex, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Better paced, and yet ... things still really aren't moving, are they?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link

i liked this infection storyline - it ended the six month period of harmony that the prison had post-Woodbury, it just felt a little weird to kill so many people that effectively became redshirts. the "rick going nuts" and governor storylines seem to finally be wrapping up

i do wonder if they're going to drag out the prison setting all the way to end of the season - hopefully not

Nhex, Monday, 18 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

...all right!

boy were there a lot of crowd-pleasing kills in this one. i have been entertained.

Nhex, Monday, 2 December 2013 06:44 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, that was pleasantly carnage-filled. Just wish we didn't have to wade through those two horrible Governor episodes first.

Favourite part was Daryl taking cover from a hail of bullets behind... a filing cabinet? Guess they build them prison filing cabinets to last, huh?

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

I almost felt like they were deliberately doing that - he also uses a rotten zombie carcass as a shield at one point.

deliberately playing up the ridiculousness there, i mdan.

how could you not be cracking up when he went full-on Rambo with the grenades

Nhex, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link

The guy straight-up took out a tank single-handedly. Gimme that over Beardo Governor playing Littlest Hobo for two hours.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link

i don't see a conflict between the two!

Nhex, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link

I'm not saying carnage and quieter moments can't coexist in this show, I just really hated following the Governor for two tedious episodes while he regained his evil mojo via the power of love or whatever. Those two episodes seemed right in line with some of the doldrums episodes from earlier seasons, and the last episode might have been the best one they've done yet.

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link

Haven't finished this episode, but jesus christ, what a bunch of morons. Following the governor, leaving people unattended. Flood zombie was awesome, though, intentional echo of Fulci. And finally, as horrific as it is, they let a zombie eat a child.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

http://images.indiebound.com/616/837/9780375837616.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

twice! the bloody baby carriage was pretty effective, i must say

i did love the mud zombie; especially once the girl picked up that "FLOOD AREA" sign it was a good "some bad shit's about to go down!" blunt foreshadowing

Nhex, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link

lol... i gave up on this show for a bit but am back up to date now. it's so fucking disjointed, like can the writers really not think of any plot whatsoever?

the governor stuff was hilarious, especially the indie montage that reintroduced him.

i note the cuet sister of the woman who shot the governor survived.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link

just gonna put this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIQdBKlEqo8&feature=youtu.be

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link

What this crew needs is a quest. Get them on the road, for god's sake.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link

it's sorely lacking in any development of the whole zombie virus plot. that drove it on a bit at the start before the last two seasons of murder, death, and rick staring at the sun with sweat and blood all over his face while doing that sobbing that's a bit like laughing thing.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link

It's really got no plot. It's like a truck stuck in the mud, wheels a-spinnin'.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

Like they actually kept the governor alive, just to bring him back over three episodes for a fairly simple showdown.

This is some of the worst writing of all time, it makes a videogame look like The Sopranos. I think it's just the clever zombie scenes that keep everyone ploughing through.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link

It's really got no plot. It's like a truck stuck in the mud, wheels a-spinnin'.

Basically, it's a perfect adaptation of the comic book.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

I wish they'd just go, 'you know, who gives a fuck about these ppl anymore. let's go somewhere else in the country and see what other ppl are doing for a while'

I haven't watched since the first episode, my way of taking a stand against being so bored and annoyed all time

though I am sure I will eventually circle back and bingewatch them all

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

(haven't watched since the first episode of this season, I meant)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

The comic book seemed to have more at stake, iirc. Also, more zombies.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 December 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

your favorite album otm! but i actually think the show is better for not killing its main characters quite so swiftly

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I thought this episode was really, really good, and probably what the show should be like more often, but I understand the tone is not tenable. I also know better than to get my hopes up.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

some parts were good, some parts were a little too slow. loved michonne's fever dream/recap flashback and her zombie twin/herd cleanup. mixed opinions on the kid.
really weird to see Gurira all bouncy diva-y on Talking Dead afterward

CARL

Nhex, Monday, 10 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

Man, I'll take it. Anything to flesh out these thin characters. The best thing about breaking the group up and sending them on the run is there's less standing around talking.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

honestly i prefer the hammy haranguing between the group over the awkardly-contexted "monologues". but i agree i'd like to see more character development

Nhex, Monday, 10 February 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I loved the whole bit with Rick and the marauders in the house. At first I thought it might be another crazy hallucination, but it's super tense and well directed. The little bits of dialogue you overhear to demonstrate "Yup, these guys are not good people!" were hilarious.

Smiley Michonne still creepy, but I'm liking it, and her bonding with Carl. That bit with the pink girl's room was also good stuff.

Nhex, Monday, 24 February 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

The last few eps have been OK. I like the slower pace, adds to the tension. They've been well directed, too.

So that new dude is basically Woody Harrelson from "Zombieland," right?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link


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