Beer in the new era

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dirt wolf is okay, but i'm coming to realize that in general i just can't handle the syrupy flavor/hot booziness of most double IPAs. there are exceptions, like Stone's Enjoy By and the aforementioned Westbrook Ninja, but a lot of them are just alcohol delivery devices and why not just drink whiskey? dirt wolf is good tho, don't get be wrong, it's not total crap.

ian, Friday, 1 November 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link

one thing i really like about dirt wolf is that it doesn't taste so syrupy to me. also i really love the smell/taste of those mosaic hops

Mordy , Friday, 1 November 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

i liked dirt wolf quite a bit, impressed by victory for the first time in a while.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 November 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link

victory's braumeister pils was TOPS imo. sessionable, crisp, well-hopped pilsner.
i also really enjoy their storm king stout, and their regular pilz. i haven't had many of their one-off or seasonals.

ian, Friday, 1 November 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Stopped by the new beer store in Rego Park Queens again on the way back from Costco and bought a few singles -- Delerium Nocturnum, Guillotin, and a Hitachino Nest Sweet Stout (the last of which I kind of already regret -- their beers seem overpriced as fuck). The beer store dude hooked me up with a free can of Cigar City Jai Alai, which you really never see around here. Stamped October 22, 2013, so super fresh. It's pretty nice. I'm really not big on IPAs, but this one is not overbearing or bitter for bitterness's sake. Also has a cool can:

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/8480/webjaialai.png

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link

i love jai alai

Mordy , Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link

I enjoyed it but wouldn't get again. I think I just don't really like IPAs. They make me feel tired and leave a weird taste in my mouth.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link

Don't think I'm going to open anything else right now though - a belgian ale or a stout wouldn't really taste right after this.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

Way too many overhopped IPAs of the last couple decades, although today's is much better. I think the inception of a fertile craft brewing culture made people exaggerate the tastes they liked, especially overhopping beers. Most new ones seem much better balanced.

mh, Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

i think ipas are delicious + often have the best aroma. i don't even mind very bitter ipas. my only complaint is when they do those double + triple ipas that taste really syrupy (eg dogfish head 120 minute). but even very hoppy stuff like dirt wolf can still have a really fresh + citrus flavor to it (despite being a dipa i don't taste anything syrupy in it at all). hurting, i wonder if you'd like cigar city's dry-hopped on the high seas ipa which is more mild imo but still really good example of style

Mordy , Saturday, 2 November 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

dry bitter taste that makes me gag

mh, Saturday, 2 November 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

What????? Give me all the ipaz

Jeff, Saturday, 2 November 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link

we just got in the cigar city jai alai; excited to try it when i get back from RI.
there's a new(ish) Brewer in Rhode Island, FOOLPROOF BREWING. I tried their IPA yesterday and really liked it. Good flavor, not syrupy, not over-hopped.

ian, Saturday, 2 November 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

Whoa I was drunk last night. That Backwoods Bastard nightcap was probably ill advised.

Jeff, Saturday, 2 November 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

I'm raising a glass of Heavier Handed to the thread right now.

dan m, Saturday, 2 November 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

Also every time I see "dipa" I read it as diaper.

dan m, Saturday, 2 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

i was into the foolproof ipa, solid m.o.r. type beer.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 2 November 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

yeah I feel like I've had plenty of "examples of the style," like probably dozens of different IPAs over the years, and I'm just not a fan of the style. Even with the best ones I almost never want more than one. I'm not big on any beer that makes the flavor of particular hops the complete centerpiece of the taste.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 3 November 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

Actually I did love the Evil Twin Femme Fatale Yuzu though. I would definitely try another Evil Twin IPA.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 3 November 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link

hurting, you might be able to still find bottles of evil twin femme fatale brett. it is great & has nice clean citrus flavor in the initial rush

ian, Sunday, 3 November 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah I think the Yuzu was some kind of small run of the brett that also had yuzu fruit

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

This guillotine stuff is damn good (same brewery as Delirium Tremens)

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

belgian-style golden ale, almost champagne-like

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

the hitachino sweet stout otoh is borderline disgusting

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

I have hated every hitachino I have tried, and I've tried several. Particularly maddening considering the price.

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Monday, 4 November 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

Basically my thought is if you are reaching for a hitachino, stop, turn around and find a mikkeller if you want to blow $$$ on a 12 ounce and be pretty sure it will be worth it. Or at least not suck.

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Monday, 4 November 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link

I was pretty mad because I've always been like "$7 for a single? No beer is that good." But it turns out it's not even like $2 good.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

The Guillotine had one of the tastiest heads ever -- super thick foam. I could just drink the foam.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

there's like one good hitachino, one that's not bad, and the rest are experiments in flavortown that are best not breached

that one with ginger in it is bleehhh and I love ginger

mh, Monday, 4 November 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

the stout kind of tasted like it was made by people who had heard a description of a stout but never tasted one

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

is that the one that is kind of syrupy?

I am not much for wheaty beers these days but I will still rep for their white ale

mh, Monday, 4 November 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

Hitachino Nest is by far the worst craft brewery going.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

coughroguecough

Mordy , Monday, 4 November 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

haha

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

I had this guinness red harvest stout on Halloween and it was good but seemed to be exactly like guinness except the black food was replaced by a deep ruby red. Maybe there was a bit more sweetness, like a scotch ale?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

Haha, Hitachino Nest has 2 drinkable beers to Rogue's 1.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

I have hated every hitachino I have tried, and I've tried several. Particularly maddening considering the price.

they are not great but the one that's "based on a japanese original ale" or whatever is nice - like i dunno, as nice as brooklyn lager or something, i was looking at bars in nyc for my visit and saw hitachino for 13 dollars or some shit, no way is it that kind of stand-out.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

might have been a restaurant rather than a bar, but still.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

went to a friend's "near beer" party, where everyone was supposed to bring beer from their hometown. probably the best thing i tried that i hadn't had before was Alesmith (San Diego). the IPA was good but i was told the Speedway Stout is the way to go.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

speedway stout is imo tremendous

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

went to a friend's "near beer" party...

Was about to say "That's no friend!" till I read the rest. (For those too young to remember, Near Beer was a non-alcoholic beer I tried a couple times in the early 70s, may still be in production).

Also tried the Ballast Point Sculpin IPA that was raved about upthread. Excellent, but $15/6-pack is kind of steep.

nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

drank so much SN celebration this weekend

I really don't know much about beers from the DC area, which is where I grew up

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link

http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/blogs/99bottles/2013/11/the_alchemist_closing_cannery_to_the_public.html

Does this mean I've probably had all the Heady I'll ever get? Every can I've ever had is because people have gotten their stock by driving to the cannery.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

my phone blew the fuck up abt that today

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

it's going to be much tougher to justify the trip to vermont from boston. but given some of the ppl i know who were contemplating heady runs (to make it clear these are people who really could not be described as beer nerds by any definition) it's no surprise. if you're resourceful and willing to drive it's still possible to scrape together a case (i know, i've done it) but overall this sucks.

contemplating one more run next wednesday.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

Go for it!

I say this as I'm drinking a fresh batch of Pipeworks Unicorn vs. Ninja and holy fuck is that a good beer. They've really nailed this one, probably the best PW's I've had.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

just opened the delerium nocturnum -- interesting, definitely has some flavors in common with the guillotine, and also some elements that remind me of a chocolate stout

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link

belgian ales are really a whole other thing from most beer imo, they're like something in between beer and wine

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link

Newcastle Werewolf (their rye malt ale) was pretty okay (and much better than their brown ale). Nothing to seek out, but probably the best offering at the local Rite-Aid near me (save the unrefrigerated Sierra Nevada).

جهاد النكاح (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link


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