― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
The aggression of the music, the whole crunk ethos (losing control &c)...
I like thinking of it as a dialogue with the female rappers and R&B girls, who more than hold their own via either rejection (Ciara) or trumping the aggressive sexual imagery with something even more threatening (Trina).
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link
No, I don't think they mean it literally at all. A generous interpretation would just be that it's a careless turn-of-phrase, a less-generous one might suggest that if beating a pussy up is your idea of the right way to, uh, sex than your ("you" as in "one", not you personally) attitudes towards women might need to be examined. I don't think it's neccesarily either, but I wouldn't be comfortable singing it out loud.
― C0L1N B--KETT, Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― C0L1N B--KETT, Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
There's a comic, surreal quality to the bravado here that makes it more amusing than offensive personally, though I totally understand if someone has no desire to hear it. I like stuff that's crass and irreverent. If it was performed more hatefully I wouldn't enjoy it. It's why I can enjoy Eazy-E's rhymes more than Ice Cube's sometimes on Straight Outta Compton.
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I sang it out loud today! My best friend wanted to know more. We were in the National Gallery, oh dear. I'd be totally comfortable with singing the whole song out loud as it's a whisper anyway.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej., Sunday, 9 January 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matthew "Flux" Perpetua, Monday, 10 January 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 10 January 2005 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 January 2005 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 January 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― ppp, Monday, 10 January 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― sleepnotwork, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link
btw Ying Yang Twins' "Georgia Dome" specifically references that one of them won't eat anything that gets up and walks away.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I could probably think of songs that are misogynist in a more unsavory way, maybe. Like the Ramones' "Loudmouth".
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link
TS: "beat" vs. "pound" as a verb referring to rough sex, consensual or otherwise?
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej., Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej., Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link
these don't sound non-consensual to me
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
actually, if you look, I haven't really praised it that highly (I think the extent of my value judgement was "this is bananas"). I wrote about/linked it becauses I thought (rightly) that it was noteworthy and would provoke discussion, and because noone else seemed to have heard it yet. I do like it, though.
I wouldn't say I'm totally suspicious or dismissive of weird or minimalist beats with novelty value. I could come up with a much longer list of the ones I love than the ones I hate. there are just some that grate on me or that I think could have been done more effectively.
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
i will report back forthwith...
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― C0L1N B--KETT, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
this some crazy shit. i dunno that i've ever really heard anything like this. that minimal, listener-under-water-sounding beat is surprisingly effective to these ears. the lyrics don't do much for me, but i really dig the delivery.
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link
ALL: oh *really*
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 January 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rizz (Rizz), Saturday, 15 January 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
"Somebody turned the faucet on and didn't turn it off," D-Roc, one half of the Ying Yang Twins, blurted out on Wednesday in the "TRL" green room. He was poking fun at the predicament he and his "brother" Kane are in. Their new song, "Wait," has gotten out early, so they are quickly trying to turn an album around. "Somebody had leaked our music, and the people, the world [were taken] by surprise," Kane further explained. "It wasn't time for us to be looking at our album." "Wait" is easily one of the Twins' most sex-charged songs yet, with the guys rapping through the entire record in the tone of a whisper. "It's coming from the point of talking to a lady in her ear," Kane said. "Perverted whispers in her ear!" D-Roc chipped in. "You trying to get you some!" "Wait" is the first single from the Twins' United States of Atlanta album, due this summer...
― Al (sitcom), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 28 January 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I have a favorite album title of the year already.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 January 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 January 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 29 January 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― C0L1N B--KETT, Saturday, 29 January 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 March 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 12 March 2005 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Timbaland's hard shit is harder than the Neptunes tho
― The Reverend, Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah honestly I think most of 'em are pretty bad but idk how many I'm thinking of. "3 A.M." being the one exception I'd agree with you on, shit's like a horror flick lol
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link
dude at Ohword back in the mid-'00s had a post dissing the hell out of Timbaland during his JT/Nelly Furtado/Danjahandz resurgence and one of his main criticisms was that his catalogue's devoid of straight-up bangers. I disagreed at the time but he was onto something
Not that his "poppier"/typical old style in diff. eras style hasn't yielded tons of classics but it is a problem that disconnects him a bit from the core of the genre imo. Plus there's the fact that I just can't listen to Missy's albums straight through like that, although that is partially her fault, I don't think she's a very good rapper & the "goofiness" is not enough to make up for it
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
also Mustard may be indebted to Jon but I don't think he's anywhere near as good. though yeah not into "Turn Down for What" and lol don't know the other one you mentioned, fuck Tyga though
OK triple post my bad gonna chill heh
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
This song grosses me out. I don't like it when vox are recorded in a way that you can hear the saliva noises of the vocalists mouth...there's some Leonard Cohen songs I can't listen to for the same reason...this is my biggest pet peeve in all of music....this is maybe significant cuz it's the first rap song ever to do it. but it's still GROSS! yucky.― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
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