blood orange

just to build on that earlier point, i mean i was gonna say this on the sky f thread but i'm p cool with having a flavour of circumspect disposable devdom as part of a balanced diet... it's a question of degrees though and if you begin to self-identify with it in an oppositional rather than complementary sense (so like believing the sky album an everlasting best of 2013 classic etc) then it does get to a pop-not-indie shambalalala type personal precious cubbyhole that requires summary clotheslining u feel me

fwiw this guy is a great guitar player!

pop-not-indie shambalalala type personal precious cubbyhole that requires summary clotheslining

gr8s man if u wish to clash me then leave the pussyhole manoeuvres aside and get on with it

sorry i'm just a war correspondent.

cmon what's up buddy, let it all out

u like this artiste, and are butthurt that others do not, is that it. u wanted to start this thread five, five whole weeks ago but u didnt see any kindred spirits around. u feel like u should be lonely, angry, but... it's not... there? u want to tell ppl why this record is meaningful 2 u but it's hard, so hard... why god why it is it so hard... to feel things

lol rtc you're allright

it's too late i'm going to listen to this album now hope ur happy

listen to the last one first imo

this one is better imho

no one be butthurt

rtc is treating this guy like hes just some chillwave but hes p obviously has a lot more observable qualities

I like this. Sort of like a more focused Dam-Funk. (or maybe just more New York -- Dam-Funk's haziness is very West Coast)

i gotta say that fader article has some real spinal tap moments

Sometimes, because of a condition Hynes has called synesthesia, which links the senses of sight and sound in his brain, the city’s noisiness can overwhelm him, especially at crowded bars. But he likes the way the Empire State Building sounds. “It’s a G major ninth up here,” he says, scribbling that fact in a notepad.

ha he sound exhausting but im happy to know hes out there doing his thing being an artist

a lot of musicians do operate on synesthesiac level whether its really a condition or just an approach seeing the colors in music and so forth

recall talking to this guy i knew in passing who worked at the studio where mobb deep were recording maybe hell on earth and he said they would get completely fucked up and pass out head on the mixing board then wake up and start mumbling about colors and how they could see the music and then continue recording

I know synesthesia is a real thing and I'm sure it affects different people to different degrees, but the way reporters always treat it like it's OMG SO AMAZING is funny to me. Like, associating colors or tastes or textures to sounds or shapes or words is not really that hard to understand -- it's a basic tool of poetry, and even of a lot of criticism (e.g. "angular guitars"), it's a normal metaphorical way of talking about sensory experience. I'm sure it operates on a different, more instinctive level for synesthetes, but it does not blow my mind that a certain tone or chord sounds "blue" or "pink" to someone.

it plays into the profiled/profiler dynamic very well is prob what it comes down to

tbf it got what few passing sentences in that piece

No, I know. That's just the second synesthetic artist reference I've seen/heard in the last week (the other was on NPR talking about somebody, I don't remember who). But yeah, it definitely plays into artist profiles in general. You don't hear much about synesthetic bankers.

Think what you're not getting tipsy is that what normally operates at a metaphorical level for non-synesthetes literally operates at a literal level for synesthetes

That's why it's OMG SO AMAZING

DUH

My guess is that there's more like a synesthetic spectrum and we're talking more about degrees of intensity than some on-off switch. But I don't know! I just notice it a lot in feature stories.

i wonder what the color blood orange sounds like to him

it doesnt sound like hes a literal synesthete from the piece tho just kinda speedy, protip anyone can become synesthetic with the right drugs

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2013/11/14/dev-hynes-delivered-a-stunning-lecture-on-synesthesia-and-musical-composition/

if you took enough of the drugs and got familiar w the experience you could prob train yrself to see sounds w/o the drugs or w/e #drugforums

Googling "synesthetic spectrum" gives me:

Cross-modal correspondences pervade not only several forms of traditional synesthesia but also, importantly, the experiences of individuals typically deemed non-synesthetic (Marks, 1975, 1978; Spence, 2011). Even non-synesthetes perceive high-pitched vs. low-pitched sounds to resemble bright vs. dark colors—the resemblances evident in various tasks of cross-modal comparison (Marks, 1975; Ward et al., 2006). Where music-color synesthetes see brighter colors in high-pitched notes (e.g., “gold, yellow and white moving … like a rippling stream”: Mulvenna and Walsh, 2005; p. 399), people lacking the induced qualia of synesthesia nevertheless recognize cross-modal similarities.

Cross-modal correspondences often reflect alignments between bipolar dimensions, such as higher pitch being associated with greater lightness, greater brightness, higher vertical location, and smaller size (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Wicker, 1968; Marks, 1974, 1989; Ward et al., 2006). Several auditory-visual correspondences reveal themselves in young children (Marks et al., 1987; Mondloch and Maurer, 2004) and infants (Lewkowicz and Turkewitz, 1980; Walker et al., 2010; Haryu and Kajikawa, 2012), as well as in denizens of disparate cultures: Members of a remote, semi-nomadic, preliterate desert-tribe in southern Africa, having virtually no contact with Western culture, nevertheless overwhelmingly matched lighter gray colors to higher-pitched tones—thereby revealing pitch-lightness correspondence (Mulvenna, 2012).

The tendency for non-synesthetes to perceive similarities between experiences in different domains, despite the absence of secondary qualia, has been called “synesthetic thinking” (Karwoski et al., 1942) and “weak synesthesia” (Martino and Marks, 2001), consistent with the notion that cross-modal correspondence reflects general perceptual and cognitive processes. Further, by capitalizing on cross-modal correspondences, synesthesia too presumably capitalizes on these general processes of perception and cognition (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Marks, 1978; Ward et al., 2006).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3783847/

Too much time on ILM

http://i.imgur.com/O70lUTI.png

xp "This collateralized debt obligation is orange," said JP Morgan securities analyst Parker Thornberry, gazing at his iPad. "Credit default swaps are more kind of aquamarine."

lol yes

lol blood avocados too

listening again now

markers have you ever had this

http://i.imgur.com/FoSwZyi.jpg

thoughts?

^big up that

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

no i have not

that is the best sanpel soft drink

the amara one is sweet too

no idea what that word even means

a lot of musicians do operate on synesthesiac level whether its really a condition or just an approach seeing the colors in music and so forth

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:20 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was less the sentence about having synesthesia (which even if untrue is obv essential the Dev Hynes mystique & ~feeling things~) than the sentence after where he describes the empire state building as being "a G major ninth” which, LOL bullshit

the man has feelings damn

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

― 乒乓, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:30 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

Why is that bullshit tho. Are you a synesthete

xp!

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:50 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUQ-OBazbc

obviously i agree that vw are zzz but blood orange should be no one's standard of rawness

i dont think vw are zzz tho just their new album and maybe like sort of their last album, blood orange is obvs p raw tho maybe not standard bearer levels

nothing raw about blood orange

sterile and vague maybe