can't believe ilx has no lostprophets thread

Not going to get into paedo Top Trumps but there's a special degree of horror involved in raping a baby that's hard to compare to anything else.

jesus christ i hadn't heard this story at all, i'm wishing i still hadn't.

tiers of hell but this isnt even narc of sd, saville was yr standard hebephile degenerate with fame multiplier, this one is so bad court reporters are refusing to transcribe evidence from court

this one is so bad court reporters are refusing to transcribe evidence from court

i boggled when i read that, given what IS in the news stories

I mean, holy fuck

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 24m
Police believe that Watkins may have abused others and therefore this investigation is not over. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 29m
"Most shocking harrowing child abuse evidence I have ever seen" says senior investigating officer. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 30m
CPS "sexual exploitation at it's worst. Victims too young to understand what happened to them" #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 36m
@Darren_smithh in order to protect the identity of the children the mother's identities are protected

Oliver Kirk ‏@Kirkabout 43m
@CrimeLineLaw @rupertevelyn I had to stop reading.....horrific- and that's from someone who has dealt with terrible offences.

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 49m
Believe it or not i have heavily edited the details of the case. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 55m
sample of child victim's hair found they had been exposed to Meth Amphetymne. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 55m
Along with the abuse there was "extreme pornography" involving sex with animals found on various devices belonging to Watkins #lostprophets
# Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
It's fair to say we have all been spared the horror of having to view this material as a result of Watkins' guilty plea. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
sex abuse footage was found in 'cloud' storage belonging to Ian Watkins. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
Hearing of conversation involving "whoring out" the child victim as well as plying them with crack cocaine. #lostprophets

Ian Watkins to mother "the sooner we start training her the better" referring to depraved crimes with v small child #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
The details of this case are the most graphic and distressing paedophile crimes i have ever listened to. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
cant repeat what we are hearing now. #lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
Watkins message to child's mother talked of wanting "to cross the line".
mother "a summer of incest and child porn"
watkins "hell yes baby"

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
Watkins recorded himself with the child's mother committing the abuse inside the hotel where the lostprophets were staying

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
Attempted rape of the very young child by the Lostprophets front-man was recorded on a camcorder at a hotel in Shepherds Bush in April 2012

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
The female defendants admit abusing their own children at the behest of Ian Watkins and making them available to him to abuse. lostprophets

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 1h
We are now going to hear the "opening of the case" against #lostprophets lead singer "determined and committed paedophile" Ian Watkins

jfc, i don't even

Karleen ‏@KarleenKM 10m
@rupertevelyn There's been rumours about it since I was around 16/17 i'm glad it's not over a lot of people will be proven not to be liars.
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i'm guessing nick is referring to how watkins was able to convince the mother to permit the abuse, wrt to fame and fandom

― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:57 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again though the idea of a parent offering their kids up for sexual abuse seems to really be on an abstract level of unpleasantness that 'fame' isn't going to adequately explain

everything about this is so far through the wall of fucked-up that i can't even

I don't think there are any lessons to be drawn here re: fame. There are plenty of non-famous paedophiles exerting similar control over victims and accomplices. It's just a staggering case. I can't get beyond holy fuck.

a charismatic manipulator whose fame (such as it was) gave extra opportunities to indulge his whims? AKA a fuckin' douchebag

This fuckwit won't last a month

(not arguing for a summery fate but yknow this guy's head on a shield etc)

Never having heard a LProphets record, I'm assuming it's some sort of 'U2-lite' rocky type of thing, somewhere between Muse and Stereophonics, right?

Obviously I'm not going to now. I have sympathy for fans of the band, and the rest of the band themselves. Presumably they'va all got themselves other music jobs by now, being good musicians, right?

They're just a really shitty band.

Nondescript.

more a Brit nu-metal/emo and bloody awful at that, depraved lead singer notwithstanding

I'm sure.

But what was their perceived MO? Their 'mission statement' ? (In a nutshell, obv)

that was xposted, obv, too.

This fuckwit won't last a month

― veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:17 (4 minutes ago)

the prison service have to ensure his safety so he's probably going to be the most heavily segregated non-lethal detainee in the country

There must be a hell of a lot of people out there with Lostprophets tattoos now frantically booking laser removal treatments.

But what was their perceived MO?

the skinny on them when i was at Kerrang! was that they were essentially a rock band in name but more closely resembled a boy band in operation

have never knowingly heard a note of their music tbh

"Fake Sound of Progress" was a Steve "Lammo" Lamacq fave back in the day, no doubt he's currently burning a Lostprophets t-shirt

I daresay there'll be a trawling for "suspicious" lyrics

anyone doing that is a cunt.

Well, I was going to say, if there were they'd be reported on by now.

This fuckwit won't last a month

― veneer timber (imago), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:17 (4 minutes ago)

the prison service have to ensure his safety so he's probably going to be the most heavily segregated non-lethal detainee in the country

― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 4:26 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Idk Nakh, protective custody is all very well and good but it tends to work best when none of the other inmates are actually certain what the vulnerable inmates are in for. No chance of that here, every Cat A and B prisoner in the country is going to be waiting to see where this excrescence shows up.

Obviously he'll be very heavily protected but this is just such a visceral case. Remains to be seen how much cover the prison staff will actually offer him.

Tbh the women are probably gonna have it as bad, if not worse. Can't be many worse places to be than a high Category prison if you're a mother who's allowed your baby to be used as a sex toy.

this is a strange sort of natural justice vs categorical imperative thing where it is vitally important that he is granted as a great a duty of care as possible but if somehow he did end up like this then nobody would give a shit

hopefully he just suicides

that all sounds fairly sensible

You'd hope they were "just" smoking meth with the baby in the room but who the fuck knows.

gonna go & see what the Charlton forum makes of this. usually surprisingly adept at suppressing more unconsidered outbursts but I feel this might be a (possibly deserved) exception

do[n't] keep us informed

lostprophets did an aggroangstrock cover of "Cry Me A River" that was linked on here eons ago: I'm sorry, but that Justin Timberlake track is garbage

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/26/ian-watkins-lostprophets-_0_n_4343245.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Some of the evidence was too extreme and distressing to report.

then you read some of the stuff so fuck knows how bad the stuff is they cant report.

Mostly otm rage, a few despairing attacks on British penal policy. Nothing that really feels disproportionate. Watkins has surely claimed Worst Human Of 2013

if theres a worse human than he is i dont wanna know

don't think the cafc end of season awards are important enough that he will get day release clearance

tbh this case is so revolting I regret reviving this thread now

If you didn't do it, someone else would have.

i was on my way and Tom beat me to it

tbh the thought of likely violent outcomes for Watkins just makes me feel sadder still. i understand people's need to vent in these circumstances, but this sickness doesn't need a ceremonial sacrifice to underlie it. let him live with the life he's made for myself and let him confront it every day.

underline it, i meant

imagine being one of those groupies he filmed. more than punishment for having terrible taste.

aiui those groupies were providing the guy with access to their infants? or were there other groupies involved? i don't really want to know tbh, wasn't reading the details too closely

he shagged some 16-year-old girls, assume no infants involved at that point. but who tf knows.

there were underage groupies (16 yr olds) and then there were these first round elimination mother of the year candidates discussed in the trial.

idk he seems to have been carrying on a fairly typical provincial ephebo rockstar teensex lifestyle at the same time as he was being a depraved psychopath

(16 isn't underage in Britain) (Can't believe I'm making that point on this thread)