blood orange

recall talking to this guy i knew in passing who worked at the studio where mobb deep were recording maybe hell on earth and he said they would get completely fucked up and pass out head on the mixing board then wake up and start mumbling about colors and how they could see the music and then continue recording

I know synesthesia is a real thing and I'm sure it affects different people to different degrees, but the way reporters always treat it like it's OMG SO AMAZING is funny to me. Like, associating colors or tastes or textures to sounds or shapes or words is not really that hard to understand -- it's a basic tool of poetry, and even of a lot of criticism (e.g. "angular guitars"), it's a normal metaphorical way of talking about sensory experience. I'm sure it operates on a different, more instinctive level for synesthetes, but it does not blow my mind that a certain tone or chord sounds "blue" or "pink" to someone.

it plays into the profiled/profiler dynamic very well is prob what it comes down to

tbf it got what few passing sentences in that piece

No, I know. That's just the second synesthetic artist reference I've seen/heard in the last week (the other was on NPR talking about somebody, I don't remember who). But yeah, it definitely plays into artist profiles in general. You don't hear much about synesthetic bankers.

Think what you're not getting tipsy is that what normally operates at a metaphorical level for non-synesthetes literally operates at a literal level for synesthetes

That's why it's OMG SO AMAZING

DUH

My guess is that there's more like a synesthetic spectrum and we're talking more about degrees of intensity than some on-off switch. But I don't know! I just notice it a lot in feature stories.

i wonder what the color blood orange sounds like to him

it doesnt sound like hes a literal synesthete from the piece tho just kinda speedy, protip anyone can become synesthetic with the right drugs

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2013/11/14/dev-hynes-delivered-a-stunning-lecture-on-synesthesia-and-musical-composition/

if you took enough of the drugs and got familiar w the experience you could prob train yrself to see sounds w/o the drugs or w/e #drugforums

Googling "synesthetic spectrum" gives me:

Cross-modal correspondences pervade not only several forms of traditional synesthesia but also, importantly, the experiences of individuals typically deemed non-synesthetic (Marks, 1975, 1978; Spence, 2011). Even non-synesthetes perceive high-pitched vs. low-pitched sounds to resemble bright vs. dark colors—the resemblances evident in various tasks of cross-modal comparison (Marks, 1975; Ward et al., 2006). Where music-color synesthetes see brighter colors in high-pitched notes (e.g., “gold, yellow and white moving … like a rippling stream”: Mulvenna and Walsh, 2005; p. 399), people lacking the induced qualia of synesthesia nevertheless recognize cross-modal similarities.

Cross-modal correspondences often reflect alignments between bipolar dimensions, such as higher pitch being associated with greater lightness, greater brightness, higher vertical location, and smaller size (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Wicker, 1968; Marks, 1974, 1989; Ward et al., 2006). Several auditory-visual correspondences reveal themselves in young children (Marks et al., 1987; Mondloch and Maurer, 2004) and infants (Lewkowicz and Turkewitz, 1980; Walker et al., 2010; Haryu and Kajikawa, 2012), as well as in denizens of disparate cultures: Members of a remote, semi-nomadic, preliterate desert-tribe in southern Africa, having virtually no contact with Western culture, nevertheless overwhelmingly matched lighter gray colors to higher-pitched tones—thereby revealing pitch-lightness correspondence (Mulvenna, 2012).

The tendency for non-synesthetes to perceive similarities between experiences in different domains, despite the absence of secondary qualia, has been called “synesthetic thinking” (Karwoski et al., 1942) and “weak synesthesia” (Martino and Marks, 2001), consistent with the notion that cross-modal correspondence reflects general perceptual and cognitive processes. Further, by capitalizing on cross-modal correspondences, synesthesia too presumably capitalizes on these general processes of perception and cognition (e.g., Karwoski et al., 1942; Marks, 1978; Ward et al., 2006).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3783847/

Too much time on ILM

http://i.imgur.com/O70lUTI.png

xp "This collateralized debt obligation is orange," said JP Morgan securities analyst Parker Thornberry, gazing at his iPad. "Credit default swaps are more kind of aquamarine."

lol yes

lol blood avocados too

listening again now

markers have you ever had this

http://i.imgur.com/FoSwZyi.jpg

thoughts?

^big up that

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

no i have not

that is the best sanpel soft drink

the amara one is sweet too

no idea what that word even means

a lot of musicians do operate on synesthesiac level whether its really a condition or just an approach seeing the colors in music and so forth

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:20 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was less the sentence about having synesthesia (which even if untrue is obv essential the Dev Hynes mystique & ~feeling things~) than the sentence after where he describes the empire state building as being "a G major ninth” which, LOL bullshit

the man has feelings damn

Is there a secrete Vampre Weekend-Blood Orange connection??

― 乒乓, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:30 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

Why is that bullshit tho. Are you a synesthete

xp!

the fader article says theyre friends, is that why youre asking, all i know

they shd callabo tho vampy the weeknd could use a lil blood orange rawness their new shit is so zzzzz

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:50 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkUQ-OBazbc

obviously i agree that vw are zzz but blood orange should be no one's standard of rawness

i dont think vw are zzz tho just their new album and maybe like sort of their last album, blood orange is obvs p raw tho maybe not standard bearer levels

nothing raw about blood orange

sterile and vague maybe

lol at feeling strongly enough about him either way to be throwing up wanker signs tbh, it's just just kinda ambiguous referential apologetically-shuffling-off-this-mortal-coil slop for ppl too daunted by the world to find art in it

as much as i enjoy yr drip coffee approach to making any sense i dont really get either 'referential' or 'apologetic' from his stuff? i also actually haven't heard that much of it though. 'mewling' is probably the airily disapproving adjective of choice for me though, ~in dreams~

tbh i like/am interested in this dudes dbag art school guy moments more than anything else, partly because it seems so completely unapologetic

otm hes living life

blood orange sanpel is too sweet imo

all the sanpels are too sweet tbh :(

rip youth

Blood orange is supposed to be raw it's a frit

he describes the empire state building as being "a G major ninth”

i can get behind this

nice

or if you meant 'referential' in the sense that his musical progenitors are worn fairly transparently than sure, although how much of that is a condition of living rn is hard to parse, i made the grave mistake of trying to read the HAIM thread last night and it was like eleven hundred posts of critical muggers trying to outdo each other at bludgeoning those young women with forgotten 80s pop moments so i mean, you say you like prince a lot, might as well flaunt it or were in the 'how short was yr skirt that night, young lady' territory anyway

blood orange sanpel is too sweet imo

― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 17:59 (2 minutes ago)

have u tried this one

http://www.melburyandappleton.co.uk/ekmps/shops/melburyapple/images/san-pellegrino-chinotto-chino-330ml-4387-p.jpg

all the sanpels are too sweet tbh :(

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:59 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reminds me of "white cranberry" juice... no such thing as white cranberries, it's just a version of the juice with a ton more sugar pumped in

(i know there are such thing as blood oranges... but if anything they're more tart than the regs)

i've tried sanpel chinotto but i dont know if thats the same one

italian kids at my jr high used to drink a lot of brio chinotto, i always just assumed it was a weird italian coke

the fader article calls his look early 80s but its so obvs late 80s

san pellis arent good sodas theyre the spelt of bread cmon

What the heck at Sanpel Chino

That looks like some kind of Mountain Dew Code Red Xtreme rebranding

that is my favourite fake cyrillic drink