in these, the waning days of stern: 2013-2014 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

he can run into a wall I'm fine with that

read some thing abt ipads and the nfl apparently it's some league wide thing that they needed to agree on and theyll be using them next season, tons of teams use them during the week but arent allowed to during games wtf

in a way gay is right, seeing that he went 6/19 is probably not gonna help anything. maybe team stats are good things for the coach to talk about when it comes to schemes

― k3vin k., Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:16 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

srs? its def super important to know how you did

Stats in larger samples are important, but I don't think it's important to know how poorly you did in one game right after it's over.

naw u got to know preferably during the game

lol simmons trying to trade any halfway productive celtics vet on twitter

like its not surprising rudy gay would be leading this revolt guy has been straight up in denial his entire career

naw u got to know preferably during the game

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:10 PM (28 seconds ago)

i mean i'm not sure what seeing your raw stats really does, rudy gay probably knows he misses a lot of shots, clearly it's not something he's able to fix on his own with a stat sheet

if the argument if for better stats then fine, like you took a bunch of shots early in the shot clock that are not the type of shots you make etc

if your argument is Rudy gay obvs will not listen then that seems like more of an issue. with gay than with stats. maybe he hasnt been shown enough stats idk

well right i mean obv it can't just be fg% or something

Imho fg% is better than nothing

read some thing abt ipads and the nfl apparently it's some league wide thing that they needed to agree on and theyll be using them next season, tons of teams use them during the week but arent allowed to during games wtf

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Lol just imagining 5 color printers on the sideline furiously printing out screencaps

mchale raises an interesting question that you guys can probably answer better than I can: who's the best player to also be a good/successful coach? (jury still out on mchale I guess--he probably has another year at best to produce major results)

― ryan, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think his job is pretty safe right now in general

Lenny Wilkens is probably the greatest player to become a great coach

http://celticshub.com/2013/11/26/jared-sullingers-post-defense-has-been-excellent/

i second bird, he only coached for three years but he seemed very good at it, obvs a v good gm too, also i think he was a good player

oh man sullinger is still so fat, i guess he had back surgery so he has an excuse but still v curious to see how good hell be if he ever gets in shape

sullinger's interviews about his weight are pretty endearing, he's like "yeah I'm fat, I'm working on it." Says Kevin Love is his role model for losing weight.

i second bird, he only coached for three years but he seemed very good at it, obvs a v good gm too, also i think he was a good player

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:45 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Imagine what we'd think of him as a GM if Kahn had accepted the Jonny Flynn trade.

Bird probably the only guy to do the trifecta though.

altho nellie did draft Dirk!

bill russell was pretty good at coaching and playing at the same time

Jerry Sloan, two time all-star and four time all-defensive first teamer, probably my answer tho

guess it depends on what yr standard for playing greatness is

fair enough, I change my answer to scott skiles

he had 30 assists in one game

I like his name, scott skiles, it's kinda funny and makes me laugh

Jerry Sloan, two time all-star and four time all-defensive first teamer, probably my answer tho

― Clay, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:02 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he was a good play but not on Wilkens' level. Can make the case that Nellie was better.

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#wakeupsheeple #mambaout

i hate kobles, but i support kobe getting that paper, fuck team, go for mines

Kobe's only half right. I'd be pretty surprised if anything in the CBA says that players "have to be selfless" when it comes to the salary cap. Pretty sure that part is optional.

ctc xp

he's referring to the criticism he's gotten for the deal xp

kobels otm

that criticism comes from fans and other outsiders. the correct kobe answer to that is, "See this money. It's my fuck you money. So, fuck you."

the rules on to for which we make do for why

kobe knows selflessness is for clowns who don't have multiple rings and a lock on the hof

have no sympathy for kobe, the CBA wars aren't about superstars they're about journeymen who have short careers and end up hurt with no health benefits. kobe is rich for life regardless -- why does he need 25 million instead of like, 12? he's probably worth like 300. he's entitled to do whatever he wants, but i wish his fans would acknowledge that guys like lebron, KD, etc took less to help their teams while kobe's been all about him

by KD i mean KG

kobe is right in that the owners manipulated the situation and set up the dynamic in which he is either selfish or not

the extension definitely adds some fun drama to his comeback, looking forward to it

There was already a hard cap before the lockout.

And Garnett and Duncan were "selfless" before the lockout.

kobe is right in that the owners manipulated the situation and set up the dynamic in which he is either selfish or not

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:10 AM (6 minutes ago)

in the sense that if there were no salary cap this would be a non-issue, but the "millionaires vs billionaires" debate etc is a separate thing from this

Like if you want to say fuck the owners that's cool but you actually are limiting their ability to field a competitive team.

owner agreed to the deal too

It is amazing though that people are giving him shit when so many lesser players have received max money

that kobe tweet is awesome i don't care if he's almost a billionaire anyway