in these, the waning days of stern: 2013-2014 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

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i thought yr point was that the lakers omg need kobe to rake in the $$$

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

I'm just saying the lakers operate in the stratosphere where the only other team operating is the Knicks. They have the financial flexibility and cushion to throw good money after bad. If they think they can make some big FA signings even w Kobe's contract on the books they will. They're not the Thunder

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

they will not make a big free agent signing with kobe on the books cause no major free agent wants to play on a team thats not going to win and filling one of yr max slots w a non max player is a sure way not to win, theyll prob sign a second tier free agent to a huge contract and suck lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

come join our tenth place team youre just what we need to put us over the top kevin love

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

James harden come play for us

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

o man harden on this lakers team would be pretty perfect

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

jd started managing the team soon after cablevision bought it iirc fyi

Which makes him unlike buss sr who guided his team to many many titles, yes

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link

The real test is to see if the lakers can do the equivalent of agreeing to eddy curry and Jerome James contracts and still maintain their position as second most valuable franchise in the country

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

not sure what yr point is here poly

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link

I don't think there's anything instructive about comparing Buss Jr. and Dolan Jr. They're heirs to fortunes, that's about it.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link

theyre incompetent heirs to fortunes, guys who didnt earn their jobs and suck at them, as jordan said #america

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

i believe the zach lowe column points out that the lakers are going to have to do some serious work to add even one max contract next summer which will leave them with a max guy, an undeserving max guy, and a team of probably worse scrubs than their current team of scrubs.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link

yup

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

theyll prob just resign pau tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

2 undeserving max guys if they get melo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

it would be super funny if melo went from ny to la

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link

i'm telling you they're banking on someone forcing a trade there

it's always happened!

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

So a sign and trade w gasol or Nash?

乒乓, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

I look at the Lakers and I see a team that hasn't developed young talent since Jerry West left. That's not Buss Jr.'s fault. At some point he has to cut the cord on Kupchak, a bad GM who has also won a few titles. It's not an enviable position. To call Buss Jr. incompetent because ... of the Nash trade? What?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

I have no idea why I'm defending this guy because i could not give a fuck but it doesn't make sense to me.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

i've never heard anyone in the media say a single positive thing about lil buss

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

it seems like anyone with sources in the lakers thinks he's basically incompetent

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

To call Buss Jr. incompetent because ... of the Nash trade? What?

― polyphonic, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:55 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

giving mike d'antoni a three year contract?

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

yeah he just overpaid kobe and set the lakers back two years too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

kupchak is bad too tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

not developing young players when you're constantly picking outside of the lottery is a pretty minor issue imo

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

its a pretty essential skill for winning in todays nba imho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

giving mike d'antoni a three year contract?

The length of the coach's deal doesn't matter. He rolled the dice on an available veteran coach and struck out. He's been better than Mike Brown or Rudy Tomjanovich or Magic Johnson.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm telling you they're banking on someone forcing a trade there

it's always happened!

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:54 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i agree with this, bad way to run things but it's all they know.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

except for the part where phil jackson wanted to come back xp

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

its a pretty essential skill for winning in todays nba imho

― lag∞n, Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

there are franchises (the lakers are one of them) that can survive without really "developing" young talent imo

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

but they did develop kobe so...

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

I don't think Phil Jackson was healthy for that team and I thought it was smart for them to go in another direction. But I don't think any new coach can actually coach the team until Kobe retires. D'Antoni is a decent assistant coach for Kobes.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

i feel like its hard if you dont have a guy or two on a rookie contract contributing to fill out yr roster, like you dont need to find an allstar but its hard to have depth if you dont find contributors in the draft

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

remember when the lakers were in the 2013 playoffs?

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

i thought those were warm up exhibitions for the spurs

to BRR! is humane (m bison), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

5 on 5 drills.

46. BEETLEJUICE, "乒乓" (1988) (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

what does howard say there

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I'll beat your ass yous a bitch according to a google result

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

ill beat yr ass looks like it could be right but the last word isn't bitch

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

poor put-upon mitch kupchak

Clay, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

d'antoni probably my frontrunner for COY right now tbh

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

you'd think stotts would be getting quite a bit of consideration right now

Clay, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link

oh man thinking about it how awesome would it be if the lakers had let kobe walk hed go to another team and be super motivated to get revenge and for sure declare publicly thats what he was up to and then take 30 shots a game while shooting sub 40% and playing no defense and getting injured a lot

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link

d'antoni probably my frontrunner for COY right now tbh

― k3vin k., Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lol stop

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

what the lakers have overachieved and it's largely due to d'antoni's system. someone like stotts is an obvious choice but i have a harder time attributing that to coaching as opposed to their best players just playing better

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

stotts is a really good coach.

i'm not sure at a game under .500 how much the lakers have overachieved anyway

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

Everyone always wants to give coach of the year to the .500 team that should be .300 but I'll take Vogel or Pops.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah i mean pops should probably be in the lebron category of "should win it every year unless something crazy happens" but coaches can only do so much with the rosters they've got, this lakers team is a bunch of jokers and they're .500 in a tough conference

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link


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