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i end of drinking a lot of Union Jack due to it always being marked down to $8.99 at the Whole foods by me. At that price you really can't do any better.

this is good stuff. i tried the wookey jack for the first time recently and it was another example of a stellar black ipa, the rye balanced things really well. i guess people seem to be figuring out the right hop profile or proportions or something but it seems like black ipas and cdas are really improving

i have no idea how widespread it is yet but hop valley alphadelic ipa is often pretty cheap and was recentl;y made available in cans and has some really nice subtle hop flavor

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 20 December 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link

For fresh hop beers, Celebration is well-above average which is a distinction not a lot of the main line of Sierra Nevadas can make.
Torpedo is above-average, I think that it's not nearly as bad as some are suggesting. There's far lesser beers being talked about ITT.

Also Celebration is a 3 month seasonal vs. Torpedo which is year-round.

i end of drinking a lot of Union Jack due to it always being marked down to $8.99 at the Whole foods by me. At that price you really can't do any better

Wow, where do you live? Not trying to be snippy but that's a pretty high-markup for a marked-down beer. I mean there are Whole Foods that sell Pliny for $4.49 so yes you can actually do much much better and at half the price!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 20 December 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

$8.99 for a six-pack, at least around these parts

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

Ah okay, I thought that was bomber price. We don't get union jack or wooley jack 6-ers only bombers (but we do get DBA 6-ers).

The only Firestone beer that blew me away was the aged PNC imperial stout, I tend to intentionally overlook a lot of their beer to be honest. I should probably break that habit.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

Which one is PNC?

Jeff, Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link

I looked on their site but couldn't find any info, this is the BA profile:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2210/95028

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Oh cool, never heard of that one!

Jeff, Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say 8.99 is a sick price for a sixer of union jack.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 December 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

http://beerobsessed.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/port-brewing-fresh-hop-ipa.jpg

reasonably priced + pretty delicious

Mordy , Monday, 23 December 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link

New beers in the past week:

Petrus aged pale ale, pretty fantastic
Some Mikkeler collaborative double IPA, can't remember or figure out the name, it was great tho
Victory golden monkey tripel
Central Waters brewhouse coffee stout ($4 bomber!)
Clown Shoes muffin top Belgian IPA tripel
Southern tier 2xmas (ugh, no idea why I accepted this)
Summit grand pilsener

dan m, Monday, 23 December 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link

I have a Petrus aged red in my fridge, never had it before.

nickn, Monday, 23 December 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

petrus aged pale is prob my fave sour beer.. so good.
2xmas was pretty gross

ian, Monday, 23 December 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link

it's not like i wasn't warned tho. i should have not taken the dare to drink glogg-spiced beer.

ian, Monday, 23 December 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link

Had that Petrus aged red tonight. Not what I expected (though if I had read the label, a couple of discrete cherries on the front and "...with the intrigue of tart cherry" on the back, maybe I would have guessed). It reminded me of a cherry Coke/Dr Pepper, but not in a bad way. More sweet than sour, but thankfully not too sweet. I may buy this again. 8.5% abv, in a 750 ml bottle.

nickn, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link

A nice surprise tonight, the little bar in my wife's little hometown on the Minnesota prairie has an extensive offering of Boulevard bottles.

dan m, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 06:36 (ten years ago) link

hop ranch is maybe even better than dirt wolf

Mordy , Sunday, 29 December 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

My wife's uncle gave me a 4 pack of oaked Arrogant Bastard for Christmas. It's not exactly my thing but pretty good for free beer. The oak overwhelms the rest of the beer imho but then again I've only had like a single regular AB before.

dan m, Sunday, 29 December 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link

habanero sculpin - novelty beer! srs habanero heat in the throat.

ian, Sunday, 29 December 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

Not great. A waste of good sculpin.

Jeff, Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link

Been working my way through a sixer of the Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale. Not bad, but I had some Lagunitas IPA before that, and I think that one actually nailed the balance of fresh hop flavor and bitterness better (ie., more hop flavor, less bitterness).

o. nate, Sunday, 29 December 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

xpost: i wouldn't say i waste, it's actually kind of good in a weird way i think. but not drinkable at all. after a few sips i was done. i am not a spice fanatic. do spice fanatics like this beer? the same people who buy all those insane hot sauces. who wants to drink a pint, much less a growler???

ian, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link

i really liked the spicy mango founders back series from this year, partially bc it was legit spicy. i'd like to try a spicy sculpin.

Mordy , Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

Mango magnifico was fantastic. Much better than habanero sculpin.

Jeff, Sunday, 29 December 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link

Been working my way through a sixer of the Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale. Not bad, but I had some Lagunitas IPA before that, and I think that one actually nailed the balance of fresh hop flavor and bitterness better (ie., more hop flavor, less bitterness).

― o. nate, Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:57 PM (Yesterday)

Lagunitas IPA is dry-hopped (ie, not fresh hopped). Both are good beers at any rate, just two different styles.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 29 December 2013 08:01 (ten years ago) link

green flash palate wrecker kind of disappointing - its not bad, but it comes across as a less well put together lagunitas sucks imo

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Monday, 30 December 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

That is an odd comparison as Palate Wrecker is one of the most bitter (149 IBU) double IPAs out there whereas Sucks is almost on the complete opposite side of the IBU spectrum (for a west coast style double IPA). I agree that both have unusual grain bills, but the tastes are like night and day to me.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

My local was out of Sucks last night, so I opted for Green Flash West Coast IPA instead. As great as that beer is, I prefer Sucks. Have not yet tried Palate Wrecker.

Glenn Miller-core (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

More new beers in the past week:

Black Rocks 51K IPA*
Black Rocks Coconut Brown*
Ale Asylum Hopalicious -- solid recommendation from Jordan on this one
Stone Oaked Arrogant Bastard
Lift Bridge Hop Dish IPA
Dubuisson Scaldis de Noel -- very good, and I am decidedly not a fan of most Christmas ales
Jolly Pumpkin Bam Noire
New Holland The Poet Oatmeal Stout

*These from the brewery proclaimed "the best in the Upper Peninsula" (of Michigan, my homeland) and surprisingly good considering that most/all beers made there are mainly tourist-oriented and thus kind of lacking, though I will say the coconut aspect of the brown caught me off guard. There are not a lot of palm trees on the shores of Lake Superior. The IPA would stand up to most regional craft offerings, though it wasn't particularly distinctive.

dan m, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

Great Lakes brewery recently started showing up by me. everything i've had from them has been pretty great.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

did anyone else try that He'Brew Jewbelation (17%, 17 malts, 17 hops)? i enjoyed it, definitely a crazy beer though.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link

yes, i love the jewbelation beers

Mordy , Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link

I was gifted a bottle last night. Gifter figured most bottles are never consumed, bought mostly for the novelty.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Had the Hill Farmstead Edith that CAD sent a me awhile ago. It was lovely.

Jeff, Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

Gifter figured most bottles are never consumed, bought mostly for the novelty.

^i can't even process this

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link

def can age those jewbilations

Mordy , Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link

I held a Jewbilation in my hands last week, but couldn't bring myself to buy it (~$15 for a bomber?).

nickn, Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Drinking a Ballast Point Big Eye... The local had no Sculpin. This is rly good tho.

dan m, Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link

^i can't even process this

Sorry, I was writing in passing, on a phone. I meant the person who bought it for me figured it was often purchased for the Jew-centric novelty. He-Brew, Jew-bilation, etc. Like, ha ha, what do we get our Jewish friend? This super Jewish branded beer, of course.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 January 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that seems fair. It does seem really hokey.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 January 2014 00:31 (ten years ago) link

Oh, I see. When I first came across it I thought it was gimmicky, but that was years ago and the name doesn't register anymore. I thought you were talking about that beer itself.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 3 January 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

Had the Hill Farmstead Edith that CAD sent a me awhile ago. It was lovely.

― Jeff, Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:19 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh good! i think that may be my favorite of their regular saison rotation.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 January 2014 01:33 (ten years ago) link

I've never had a bad beer by them. So solid.

Jeff, Friday, 3 January 2014 01:47 (ten years ago) link

Pour Decisions: Newish St. Paul brewery I hadn't had anything by until New Years Eve. Maroon & Bold (Double Infuriatingly Passive Aggressive ale) was weird: actually an imperial red ale, murky, unfiltered, barely carbonated, and rather malty/sweet up front. The hops are mainly in the finish. Sort of like someone's semi-successful homebrew experiment. Also pricy. Would not re-buy.

German Disco Songsmith (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 January 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link

i feel like the name "pour decisions" was....not a good choice.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link

i saw a guy at tired hands yesterday wearing a pour decisions t-shirt and had no idea what it referred to

Mordy , Friday, 3 January 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, PD's rep from the outset has been brewing beers that don't fit traditional styles, but this was not a good first example for me.

German Disco Songsmith (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 January 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link

^^^ isn't this also Surly's MO?

dan m, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

it sounds like a bad version of arrogant bastard based on what you're saying (xp)

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link

I had a Pour Decisions Patersbier a little while ago at Ward 6 (super recommended ultra local bar/restaurant on St. Paul's east side for locals) and it was pretty fantastic actually.

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link

This guy: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29624/88304/

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link


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