in these, the waning days of stern: 2013-2014 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

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Shoot Riley instead; it gets you further.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

From a Miami Herald story today:

LeBron James scored a game-high 33 points to go along with eight assists and eight boards. James, though, appeared to sustain a groin injury during the second quarter and will be evaluated before Saturday's tilt. He could sit this one out to rest and avoid further damage.

"Uh, it's not feeling too well right now," James said of the groin. "I don't know what happened in the first half. I played the whole second half and overtime, strained my groin, so I'll see how I feel on our trip to Portland tonight and tomorrow, but it ain't feeling too good right now."

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

if the heat win this year via guys picked off the scrap heap im gonna do a school shooting

no school shootings.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

it is illegal. and very bad.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

well thats why i want to

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

no worries. the pacers have already won this year's title. the rest of the season is just a "bread-and-circus" exercise for fans.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

The best case scenario for the Heat would be really cool to see played out. Locking up two dudes -- Oden and Bynum -- to basically chill for the whole season in order to use them against one specific team in the playoffs. Just dust them off in time to be prepped for ECF vs. Pacers, give them an extra few months of mending now. Tough to remember a precedent for that.

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

It would be hard to find two NBA markets smaller than Portland and Indianapolis. Therefore, we can be reasonably confident these two teams will not meet in the Finals.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

why are people (here and elsewhere) associating the heat and bynum? i know the heat have a need for bigs, oden's return is no sure thing, etc. but i haven't seen any reports -- yet, at least -- suggesting the heat have actual interest in bynum.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

wait, waht? (xp)

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link

if bron doesn't play against Portland to ugh I will be v disappointed.

also Bynum/Oden twin towers forever

Clay, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

wait, waht?

http://media.campustimes.org/2011/09/Funny-David-Stern-Picture2-300x217.jpg

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link

you've convinced me. that's why i'm expecting a lakers-knicks finals.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

wait. waht.

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Have been why are people (here and elsewhere) associating the heat and bynum? i know the heat have a need for bigs, oden's return is no sure thing, etc. but i haven't seen any reports -- yet, at least -- suggesting the heat have actual interest in bynum.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, December 28, 2013 2:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think just 100% speculation off of those brief Simmons tweets. Diction sounds less "I think that" and more "I heard that," fuck me for parsing tweet diction. FWIW he doesn't mention if Heat/Clips have an active interest in him, tho.

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

expecting a lakers-knicks finals

I think stern would def settle for miami v. l.a. clippers.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

can I get my tongue back out of my cheek now?

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

what a strange strange season we have going on here

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

During the lockout you would just blame the shortened season for injuries

Used to be a child could kick a ball in the street

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

Is there any good writing or theorizing on why all the injuries? Is it just that medicine is getting so good and paranoid that now we detect that much more?

Clay, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

this is football obvs but http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10193209/bill-belichick-new-england-patriots-questions-nfl-offseason-workout-limits id think a good approach would be to maybe cut the number of games in particular eliminate back to backs and lengthen training camp/preseason

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

it would not just cut down on injuries but also improve the quality of play

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

― lag∞n, Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:40 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like this is it. driving hard just to get hacked is now a sound strategy

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

taking the more practice less competition approach one step further replacing high school/aau and college with a european style academy system, would produce better players

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

i think maybe the biggest change in style of play has come on defense, all the switching from side to side is v demanding

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

but theres a lot more movement on offense too, too bad we didnt have those super stat cameras for the last 20 years cause i bet players move like twice as much over the course of a game as they used to

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

There's probably a way to track total distance moved over a game

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Overhead camera facing down like the ones they used to shoot aerial footage

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

― lag∞n, Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:40 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this + medical staffs being more aggressive to fix possible problems that could turn into career nagging injuries.

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Remember that camera they put in the floor underneath the basket. Wow that was weird

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

There's probably a way to track total distance moved over a game

― 乒乓, Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:48 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well there is now http://stats.nba.com/playerTracking.html

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

happy endings reduce the instance of injury 69%

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

board descrip

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I hadn't considered movement amount, but thinking about it, yeah, there's tons less standing around in basketball these days, particularly amongst the more progressive systems.

Clay, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

its funny cause a lot of it can be traced back to thibodeau and he plays his players too many minutes and his best player is chronically injured

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

NBA Legion ‏@MySportsLegion 5m -- Cavaliers have called multiple NBA team regarding an Andrew Bynum trade. "No one wants him" (via @SamAmicoFSO) Cavs likely to release Bynum.

hm.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

lol the clips are scooping him up no question

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

haha, what a cancer.

Kev, what have you got to say for ya boy?

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

"He doesn't want to play basketball anymore," a league source told Yahoo Sports.

The Cavaliers believe Bynum has been a "disruptive" presence within the team and have lost hope the partnership can be salvaged, sources said. Bynum often expressed a lack of desire to play and practice and was convinced by the Cavaliers not to quit previously, sources said.

haha who's gonna sign a guy that openly just hates playing the sport?

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

maybe he doesnt want to sign with anyone

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

he just wants to quit

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

just retire already yeah

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Quit get cool perms bowl a lot dance the salsa

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

he is going to become a yoga instructor.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Tbf if if I was a multimillionaire at the age of 24 like he was Id quit too

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

SPORTSTALK ‏@LegacySportTalk 1h -- Heat are interested in signing Andrew Bynum if he becomes a free agent.

lol.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

look out, "champion-in-waiting indiana pacers."

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link


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