Yeah a friend had discovered that a few years ago, apparently he's pretty active in that circuit. And why not?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
it's not like he never referenced cars or driving in his lyrics tbf
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
outro of 'for dreaming' still one of the greatest moments in rock history obv
― VENIET IMBER (imago), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
Catherine Wheel seems to be more disliked than I would have thought on ILM, but I suppose there are always winners and losers. This band I really heard tangentially once on TV and found that CD used and then liked it enough to eventually get some more as I would run into other ones by them CDs for a buck or two. I think Catherine Wheel had quite a good of atmosphere at times, I kind of hear it Pink Floyd as much as shoegaze. Maybe it's because I have put them together on 90s CDR comps, they seem a bit like a UK Afghan Whigs without the soul fetish.
This track "Saccharine" I thought was really good 90s psychedelic rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKMYooP2vZc
― earlnash, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah that's cool
they were definitely going for Pink Floyd
― imago, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
one of these days i'll have every catherine wheel b-side downloaded
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
also i always loved adam & eve but the ilx pro-a&e contingent made me love it more
Not only going for Pink Floyd to the point of covering "Wish You Were Here," Storm Thorgerson designed some of the album covers. What more do you need, really.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
The sidelong suite? You could make a case for the second half of A&E
― imago, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link
i actually own all Catherine Wheel singles.
i should do a poll, hmm.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
Always kind of likedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTyFyQCq5KY
― Good Time Charlie Don't Surf (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:41 (nine years ago) link
dude has a seriously unearthly voice and sense of phrasing. it seems like he chooses particular lyrics to sort of tweak the melody, maximizing its power? voice is a gift from god for real
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
and he's bruce dickinson's cousin but you probably knew that already!
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
yeah like doi tbh! but it is amazing that one fam could produce two such different and amazing voices
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
amazing, amazing
repeating the word "amazing" is such a high thing to do
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Which recordings in particular have you been listening to?
― Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
ferment and chrome ONLY
its my fall music
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
i never checked out much beyond their first two albums tbh but those two albums were my early '90s jam
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
i wouldnt venture much farther out tbh
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
adam & eve adam & eve adam & eve
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
wait: happy days is ok too. but only chrome and ferment are covered by the stuff i said earlier. i havent given adam and eve its due time, maybe, but it didnt really reach me when i listened to it before. the things i like about CW are missing from it
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
it's not shoegazey at all but it's their best songwriting imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
but basically the things i like about cw: unbelievable melodies
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
and the precise guitar harmonics in "delicious" fuck with my head at least as much as the vivid blurs on ferment
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
melodies, layers of guitar, awesome voice, naked emotions lol
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
same
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
and the words. even when they look stupid on paper, the words always sound great.
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
will say that the words on adam and eve are particularly stupid
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
haha well, maybe that's why i hated it
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
i'll commit to revisiting it tonight and seeing. also the solo album (s? is there more than one?) stunk imo. his shit just doesn't work for me without all the loud guitars.
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
"Delicious" is sooooo good. The singing is good, but the song maxes out going into the last chorus when the guitars and drums all explode together.
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 26 September 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
The duet with Tanya Donelly, "Judy Staring At The Sun" on "Happy Days" is great.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Peaked with chrome. Adam and Eve has some nice too but awful cringy vocals/lyrics
"Phantom of the america mother" is so horrible, it's like the worst coldplay song that never existed.
Wishville is atrocious
They were fantastic live
― brimstead, Saturday, 27 September 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
Adam & Eve is like a Pink Floyd that actually rock it's phenomenal, I'm drunk too
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
For Dreaming is such an astonishing song
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
i just realized (doi) that both iron maiden and catherine wheel are the names of medieval torture devices
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
oh shit
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
The first two albums and "Heal"/"Heal 2" are my personal CW canon. Everything else is superfluous (and/or plain bad).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 September 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
I did/do love Catherine wheel, but things did seem to get progressively less interesting from album to album. "Black Metallic" is one of my all-time jams though.
― LimbsKing, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
I still love the first two albums, especially Chrome. I haven't heard the rest in a while but the more they moved away from vaguely shoegaze-y stuff, the less I liked them.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
dude's solo album - lord no
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
"crank" is such a good song, the video on the other hand is really funny but kind of perfect in its 90s-ness
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
he lives in l.a. now and restores porsches.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
not as cool as cousin bruce flying an iron maiden passenger jet around the world tbqh
yep. hes such a corny person but i kind of love him for it
http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Dickinson-with-Porsche-911.jpg
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
would drive
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
would annoy
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
i can't drive stick tho so back to the honda
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
[wtf you cant drive a stick?!!]
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
i've been thinking abut it a lot, that rob's way of writing lyrics is so talk talk-esquelike, reading the lyrics as a poem on a page, they're so cringeybut they're great, moving even, when combined with their respective tunessometimes it seems obvious that hes just making up things that sound cool and have so real meaning, or contorting words for seemingly no reason other than it sounds nice (like when he says "supeer" in crank when he could have easily just said another word like surreal or ideal or whatever)i keep wondering if this is purposeful on his part, and thinking about how someone could go about writing lyrics that wayits so different from how i've ever operated, or heard songwriters describe their processidk
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link