― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
The Guardian's midi-sized one launches next year, I think.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link
This is correct. They said they would continue to run both formats as long as it was financially sustainable, or something like that. That was Thursday last week. They announced on the the Sunday that they were to go fully tabloid, or *ahem* compact.
I don't know if it has been mentioned at all here, but the Guardian has announced it will go to European Broadsheet (slightly smaller) in about 2006 (I think this was to do with pressing equipment and availability or suchlike).
The front of the mail vs Independent this morning makes me think (a) I should buy the Indie more (b) I should really insist my mother stops reading the Mail (I have been trying for years).
― 3underscore (___), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Todd Manson, Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:31 (nineteen years ago) link
That Mail front page is beyond depressing.
(Can someone fill me in on this Clarke County thing, I appear to have missed it altogether).
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link
"Family from hell" is an unfortunate thing to put right about that picture. Go Dirty Des!
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― debden, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― debden, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:18 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Whenever Bush is told "you have no mandate for this war" he always replies "you forget Tony Blair."
2. Tony Blair being so uncritically and slavishly behind Bush/the war undoubtedly helped to legitimise the whole enterprise and boost Bush's personal ratings in America.
3. Tony Blair is so uncritically and slavishly behind Bush/the war for the same reason he impersonates a Tory Prime Minister the rest of the time - because he is scared that Middle England will boot him out at the next election.
4. And which newspaper is the most stalwart of backbones for "Middle England"? Why, the Daily Mail.
So really it was the Daily Mail wot won it for Bush.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― robster (robster), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― debden, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link
MARCH OF THE MORAL MAJORITY
phew! I thought it was gonna say Kat Slater lost her baby daughter or something!
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I disagree with this Marcello - it is pretty much admitted by all quarters that Labour will take the next election. Not necessarily with the comfort of the last (the Lib Dems are aiming at about 80-90 seats, and will probably get quite close), though the key part depends on the Tory performance that doesn't look forthcoming.
Blair's position has now changed - I almost see it that Blair is now more accountable to the Labour party members than to the electorate, mainly as a result of his plan to not stay for a fourth term. The third term is in the bag, and with the majority he will carry the only way for him to be ousted is to lose the Labour party backing. The proximity to Bush may be enough for this in the next few years.
I am actually quite interested to see how Blair and Bush now work. Their motives - neither seeing beyond 2008 most likely - could now adjust somewhat. Both Bush and Blair give a sense of wanting to be legends. I kind of fear where they may go from here, and to who they are accountable.
― 3underscore (___), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link
If you replaced Bush/Iraq with Europe/asylum I would be 100% in agreement with you. The Mail's political influence goes far beyond party politics.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
'The Victory of the Moral Majority'
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― robster (robster), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, God.
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― robster (robster), Thursday, 4 November 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 November 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
-- koogs (il...), November 4th, 2004.
...followed by the five words: "...this is all our fault."
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 4 November 2004 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm not saying what SHE does is right, but come on, this is way over the line.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=uk&q=sophie+anderton&btnG=Search+News
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 09:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Sophie also made a disgusting sexual slur about Kate that cannot be printed.
spoilsports
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link
The contestants for Sophie's body are normally rich and powerful. She's had a string of high-profile lovers including industrialist Robert Hanson, footballer Mark Bosnich, nightclub boss Mark Alexiou and football club owner Simon Jordan.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF "contestants"?
― Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:44 (sixteen years ago) link
What is most shocking about this is that she was paid 100k to be the face of Face Bake. Do these companies have fcking money to burn? More taxes are needed.
― Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 10:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't see any other possible conclusion.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link
I can confirm today that following that landmark libel case, Katie Hopkins has entered into an IVA to avoid bankruptcy. I knew for a while but could not say anything for legal reasons. The arbitrary defender of free speech didn't want anyone to know, ironically...— Jack Monroe #bootstrapcook (@BootstrapCook) September 15, 2018
― mark s, Saturday, 15 September 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
I've just spent the day at the hospital but that's cheered me right up that, thanks
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 15 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link