Sonic Youth to Play UPenn Spring Fling + Student Reactions

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Spoon played at Rice my senior year, way back when in '97. I enjoyed the show and the copy of the Soft Effects EP that I picked up afterwards, but the band kinda dropped off my radar for a few years after that.

John Fredland (jfredland), Monday, 28 March 2005 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Cat Power should never be played or (especially) play at a party.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, these kids seem really spoiled.

shookout (shookout), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Best post:
Haha. "Who are they? I've never heard of them before?" I've never heard of you before either, but you don't see me complaining to a newspaper about it. Sonic Youth are pretty huge, not an "Underground Punk Rock" band. Maybe if Brother Inferior or Skitsystem or something was playing, that phrase could be justified. And by the way, why do you guys feel that you "deserve" a bigger name? You pay to go to college to get an education, not to see bands, you should be happy with what you have. You don't deserve anything

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i got stuck with... no one! my college didnt have extracurricular activity organizations and we werent allowed to have concerts on campus [aside from the ones put on by the school of performing arts].

penn kids ARE spoiled, but then again most ivy league folks are. i mean, you dont pay all that money for an education, its for the privilege.

Spoon played at Rice my senior year, way back when in '97. I enjoyed the show and the copy of the Soft Effects EP that I picked up afterwards, but the band kinda dropped off my radar for a few years after that.

you're a funny one.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

also: apologies to the ivy league alumni here -- you folks dont suck.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

SUBOG-sponsored shows during my brief stint @ UConn (12 years ago): Arrested Development; Violent Femmes; Rusted Root

WHUS-sponsored shows during my brief stint @ UConn (12 years ago): Fugazi & Shudder to Think; Velocity Girl & Magic Hour; Archers of Loaf; Dambuilders

Bless you, WHUS. (Even if I didn't go to the Fugazi show.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 March 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

the best post starts "i asked my punk-informed friend..." - that seems to be the only really open-minded post to me. WTF? sonic youth fans hate "drop it like it's hot"? laaaaaame.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it is situations like this that create corny indie fuxx.

J (Jay), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It would be awesome if they did the silverware-in-the-strings stuff.

Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

They should play NYC Ghosts and Flowers in its entirety as punishment for the students' comments.

cdwill, Monday, 28 March 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

One of our spring weekends was headlined by John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Sonic Youth played on campus for a whole lotta $$$ in '98. They treated it as a tour warm-up and only played songs from the unreleased A Thousand Leaves. They seemed to think they'd be cheesing off the PSU mainstream but the jocks loved it cuz it was loud, the hippies were grooving off the hits of sunshine and it was their fans that stood around going "uhhh...the Diamond Sea? Anything?" I had a promo copy of the album so I dug it. I kinda wonder if spending a kajill on SY is just asking for a standoffish gig.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm dying here. Talib Kweli (who is playing on Saturday) is the best thing our Programming Board has brought in recent memory, and even he's dropped off of late! Before that we've had Maroon 5, Dashboard Confessional, and OAR. Kill me, but first abolish our programming board

x^xpost poortheatre: Are you on NYU PB?

i am nervous (cochere), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha- when I was at Stanford we had Toad the Wet Sprocket. Now that was pathetic.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

God that Thousand Leaves tour was BORING and craptastic. The whole album, in order! It was like watching karoake.

In 96/97, my university choose Sass Jordan & Trooper over Sloan. I have no right to complain.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Craziness, Noodles! I saw SY on that tour @ Smith (before, or just after, the album came out), & it was fantastic! Granted, I hadn't heard the album before the show, but, still, WOOOOOOOOOOO!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah but that's the hometown gig!

miccio (miccio), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The album had been out for about half a year at that point, and to make matters worse it was done as played on the album. I had more fun watching their kid on the side of the stage with industrial headphones on. She showed more energy then the band combined until the encore.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i saw sonic youth on their recent tour and they were pretty on -- excellent stage presence, good setlist. less penn kids just means more room for me.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone I was with thought Steve Shelley should have gotten the majority of the money from our gig. Dude was on.

(two uses of "on" in the past tense x-post!)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I compare them [SY] to Ace-of-Base, an afterthought, almost a novelty act.....and now I hear Dartmouth gets Robert Randolph AND Talib Kwali? I thought we had more pride than that.

???

sleep (sleep), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

stereolab ain't no $10k, nor is sy $25k - unless their agents wanna hose dumb college kidz (precisely what's happening).

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

or, maybe more precisely, want to suckle at bloated ivy league entertainment budgets.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

hstencil: i know stereolab were 10K in philly last time around at the troc, for a fact.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

the RZA headlining princeton lawnparties was pretty messy...thankfully there was free beer. go ivy league state!

irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

as a graduate student at penn and a regular poster here, i have to repost my ranting response to the DP editorially that started "So what is your favorite Cat Power song? Oh, you don't know who they are?"

My rant in it's entirety:

these performers are hardly esoteric...pretty standard fare for anyone who gives two shits about popular music. anyway, it doesn't take an idiot to figure out that large scale collegiate concerts are a mistake to begin with. pop-music philistines will always resent decent line-ups while failing to realize that the bands they'd like to hear are too busy selling out stadiums and amphitheaters to bother with putting on a private concert for Penn students.

as the author of the editorial can't figure out that a crowd-pleasing concert of the sort he craves is untenable at Penn (even though there was a DP article covering exactly why it is impossible published several months ago), i suspect he is even more worthless than an idiot: the sort of person that will move from his fraternity house right out to the suburbs upon graduation where he can live out the remainder of his proudly unexamined life.
(just imagine listening to Linkin Park on your humvee's kickin' bose stereo...i bet it will sound soooo awesome. it's out there... just waiting for you... dumb-ass.)

vocab review
philistine: A smug, ignorant, especially middle-class person who is regarded as being indifferent or antagonistic to artistic and cultural values. (does this describe you?)

mono.mono (mono.mono), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

so I came a little unhinged maybe, but the whole affair is so irritatin'. i think that Penn had the Roots last year which only reminded me of the time that the Pharcyde played a similarly large-spring concert at my alma mater and opened with their song "Jiggaboo Time."

This song features the lyric: "When you're rappin' for the white man/it's jigaboo time/it's jiggaboo time."

At least Sonic Youth and Cat Power vs. Penn keeps it all in the family...the hipsters vs. squares in whiteyville.

(which is not to say that there aren't non-caucasian students at Penn, but their numbers are egregiously small.)

mono.mono (mono.mono), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hurlo, you guys should try to play at penn next year!

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

if out hud plays they can stay at my apartment.

mono.mono (mono.mono), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

if stereolab is more expensive now that mary hansen's dead, that sucks.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

This band fucking blows. They're a bunch of washed up losers. If SPEC was going to hire these clowns why didn't they just go and get the cast of the surreal life...they're just as washed up and just as bad. If they really wanted to get a good non hip-hop band what's wrong with Jimmy Eat World, Saves the Day, The Format, & Taking Back Sunday????

Personally you couldn't pay me to watch Sonic Youth. I'll definitely be going to the Jimmy Eat World/Taking Back Sunday/The Format show on 4/15 at the Tweeter Center in Camden.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Erm, not me. Quotation marks are good.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Peter, if we can get on that gravy train, why not, heh heh. I don't think it's in the cards, though.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, man. my school got shit like Maestro Fresh Wes (if you have any idea of who that is, holla)

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

We had Guster one year. (Okay, we also had Run DMC, but that's what going to school in da Bronx does for ya.)

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think there were ever any good bands at my school. But the sad thing is, SY is really only good live if you have their most recent album memorized. I respect their refusal to do Greatest Hits sets, but I've seen them twice and been bored both times. "Yay, another song I don't recognize."

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Huh? They played tons of old stuff on both the Murray Street and NYC G&F tours. I think all their albums were represented.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

huh? i saw sonic youth in november [or october, whatever] and they played a lot of old and new stuff:

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/live/livesonicyouth.html

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

huh? i saw sonic youth in late summer and they played a lot of old and new stuff:

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/live/livesonicyouth.html

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

damn. i guess i didnt catch my error! can a moderator delete the first post? thanks.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, they've definitely been better about balancing the new with old on recent tours. it's kind of my theory that the reason Murray St. and NYCG&F were such short albums is because they knew they'd want to play all the new stuff but didn't want it to dominate the set like it did for the ATL tour. of course, Nurse was longer, but when I saw them last year they left out a few songs and made room for more hits.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

doesn't every college have minor controversies like this no matter who they book for the big spring/fall concerts? and inevitably columnists and letters to the school paper jump into the fray, it's hilarious.

in my freshman year (2000), Outkast AND Ludacris played my school, but most of the concerts since then have been relatively minor college-friendly hip hop like The Roots and Cee-Lo and people always bitch.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

people always bitch about everything booking-wise, yeah. i'm still apologizing to people because jeru's guarantee was $15k and we couldn't afford it (much less limo from poughkeepsie, backstage rider requests, etc.).

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Huh, maybe things have changed recently. I saw them once in 1995 and once in 2002 (I think, it was when they toured with Wilco), and both times the set seemed at least 3/4 new.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

my campus radio station is supposedly trying to get together a show featuring the Clipse and Ying Yang Twins. I will shit a gold statue in the shape of Steve Urkel if they pull it off.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 28 March 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

reading some of those anti-sonic youth posts is just totally bewildering. this dude, for example:

sonic youth [...] was in the midst of the grunge era but not nearly as influential as the other bands. they are, and will be remembered as a band that fit in with the times but didn't break much ground on their own, much like soundgarden and bush (who i wouldn't mind seeing). nirvana is very influential but just because they are, and sonic youth came out before them and they are relatively the same genre, you can't say that sonic youth is as influential as nirvana. that's blasphemy! (it goes on like this.)

sure dude, bush is in the same ballpark (league, even!) as sonic youth. just keep telling yourself that.

(so is this show open to the public? if so, i'm there, but it doesn't look they'll let the unwashed masses in.)

spasticheritage, Monday, 28 March 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

time for me to find facebook group

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

http://upenn.thefacebook.com/group_profile.php?gid=3910
http://upenn.thefacebook.com/group_profile.php?gid=3940


Cool Kids Like Sonic Youth has 56 members. [ see all of them ]
Students against Sonic Youth has 148 members. [ see all of them ]

BOATPEOPLEHATEFUCK (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

"wow, man. my school got shit like Maestro Fresh Wes (if you have any idea of who that is, holla)"

*Hollering*

my school too.

Canadian schools just ain't got the cash. i'm shocked at some of what i've seen upthread. the reactions from the Penn State kids is just one more reason to hate the Ivy League. I guess in their defence, the freshmen would have only been 3 years old when SY signed to Geffen, but that's still no excuse!

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 07:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Penn most decidedly /= Penn State!

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Tulane's campus programming is unbelievably lame. Last week hey had Cake play with Gomez. Next month it's Taking Back Sunday. Tulane is like the worst place on Earth, except for the baseball.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link


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