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xp again As far as I know there has been some mention of honey on the label since the first time I had it, which would have been about 2007ish.

dan m, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

I don't know about the label, but it has certainly always been on the sweeter side.

Jeff, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

I was really impressed by the beer selection at West Lakeview Liquors, which I visited for the first time.

Does anyone know when any of the other special winter Central Waters brews are released? I've seen the bourbon barrel around, but that's it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

I saw some bba scotch ale the other night, but it may have been an older vintage. Annoys me that CW doesn't date the bottles.

Jeff, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

I like WLVL, but I'm always afraid I'm going to knock shit over in there.

Jeff, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link

i'm a terrible portlander and haven't been to a timbers game... i've been wanting to check one out for years now

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Friday, 24 January 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Here's 2013 schedule. I'm guessing the scotch ale I saw was last year's vintage.

http://centralwaters.com/beers/pdf/2013ProductionSchedule.pdf

Jeff, Friday, 24 January 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

Struck out on hop ranch but found some dirtwolf.

Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

i actually think dirtwolf > hop ranch. hop ranch seemed a little on the thin tside o me. not a bad beer by any means, i just think i prefer the dirtwolf. there was a lil tartness/unripe apricot tang to the hop ranch which is prob good with certain foods.

ian, Saturday, 25 January 2014 04:43 (ten years ago) link

welp, this was fun

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa356/fugexlac/beer_tasting_zpsc9e34d48.jpg

dan m, Saturday, 25 January 2014 06:19 (ten years ago) link

Mordy thanks for sending that Russian River Temptation, you made me a popular guy at this party.

dan m, Saturday, 25 January 2014 06:20 (ten years ago) link

I love Parabola, but it's the FSW I can NEVER seem to get.

Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

I dunno where he got it but the guy throwing the party had 2011-2013 Parabolas.

dan m, Saturday, 25 January 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link

It hits all the stores each year, but is gone within a few hours. Just one of those releases that 9 to 5'ers can have a hard time getting.

Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 15:29 (ten years ago) link

I think it gets released twice, right?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 January 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link

Nice line up there.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link

(dan m's pic)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link

what are those beers flanking the parabolas?

and yeah, definitely looks like a good time

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link

The one with the wax on the neck on the right is some kind of Surly seasonal, the one on the left side is a barleywine whose name escapes me.

dan m, Saturday, 25 January 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Dan, you and R should come over and drink sometime. Don't think I could top that lineup by myself but I could get close!

Jeff, Saturday, 25 January 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link

I'd love to!

Was informed the beer to the left of the parabolas is a half acre product.

dan m, Sunday, 26 January 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

Also drinking a Sucks btw

dan m, Sunday, 26 January 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

Half Acre Quakerbridge

Jeff, Sunday, 26 January 2014 04:22 (ten years ago) link

Surly seVIIn maybe?

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Sunday, 26 January 2014 06:54 (ten years ago) link

did a little tasting last night:

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/q782/braudimusprime/B6DF443B-FBB4-4D6A-9B0E-A7BE9C5DF036_zps5trbiwmx.jpg

big ups to mordy and dan for your contributions!

praise bee had a lot of nice subtleties, i think the honey was very interesting and added a lot to the finish. not as hoppy as i anticipated but i think that was good since the malts and honey really showed through. pairs fantastically with stilton!

proprietors - i had this low-level fear that it really would be a boozy mounds bar, some kind of big sweet dessert bomb. luckily it was not even close to that, i think using the rye barrels helped dial back the sweetness and the coconut was incredible, really well integrated and drifted so nicely into the aroma and finish of the beer.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:04 (ten years ago) link

That looks like fun, glad to hear Proprietors isn't just dessert beer. I'm planning on bringing my one remaining bottle to a party in a week or so and it's good to know it's not as sweet as people make it out to be.

On that note, I was nosing around the Binny's new arrivals list and found this abomination:

http://www.binnys.com/beer/Rogue_Voodoo_Doughnut_Shop_Pretzel_Raspberry_Chocolate_Ale_67040.html

dan m, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link

CAD, did you like the Bo & Luke? I had it on draft a few years ago before they smoked it and bottles it. It was one of the best beers I bet had. I probably like the smoked version less so, but it's still good.

Jeff, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link

I pretty much hated Sweet Repute.

Jeff, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

I think overall I enjoyed backyard rye better than proprieters.

Jeff, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

http://alchemistbeer.com/blog/#2831

In a couple weeks, we will be releasing the first batch of Focal Banger, an American IPA first brewed at the pub back in the day. Focal Banger will be brewed with Mosaic and Citra, and we are working on fine tuning the malt bill.

#bangerz

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

bo & luke - we had this pretty late and i'm not a smoked beer guy, but i wasn't impressed. my pal walter put it well: "the smoke chased the pappy out."

sweet repute - second time i had it. it's ok, it's just like a normal ale with some maple syrup tossed in a barrel. it's prob a step up in terms of recent founders backstage offerings, but that's not saying much.

some other notes--

spencer trappist - very nicely done, all the banana and clove you'd expect, very clean and drinkable. too bad the retail pricing is astronomically high.

marshal zhukov - serious competitor for best non-barrel imp. stout.

duck duck gooze - i got this through dumb luck and really had been trying to ignore the hype and insanity. it was wonderful though. very well-balanced for what it is.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link

Pre-smoked it was amazing. Not sure why they ever decided to smoke it.

Jeff, Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link

tnite's epic beer tasting (i think the proprietors was the best thing there tbh! so delicious)

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1658207_10203234664375209_370360611_o.jpg

Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 04:31 (ten years ago) link

nice lineup!

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 January 2014 04:40 (ten years ago) link

wow!

i don't remember disliking the figaro, but i don't remember it standing out too much either. cascade has a tonnn of stuff available in bottle shops around here right now, including the mindblowing bourbonic plague. if anyone is interested in a trade for such things let me know (bourbonic plague is p limited iirc)

which hair of the dog is that?

besides maybe that bruery selection, the only other one i've tried is the fifty fifty eclipse (i forget which version). how did that compare to the bourbon county?

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

does yr ilxmail work?

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link

the hair of the dog was probably the worst of the bunch - it was Michael. really overpowering booze taste. the bcbs proprietors was by far the best beer of the night - way superior to the four roses eclipse.

Mordy , Monday, 27 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

I am going to this (mostly because they have amazing cheap records for sale very year to benefit the station)

http://klcc.org/klcc-microbrew-festival-feb-7-8-2014

if u scroll down you will see a good list of the local breweries

L and I went out to Agrarian's tasting room this weekend, had some damn good beer (dry hopped pale for me, hoppy dark CDA type thing for her). also pork belly and white truffle pizza which was really good. They are 5 miles north of Coburg.

sleeve, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

never had the michael, but that's unfortunate (esp at 6% abv, it's weird that the alcohol taste was so overpowering). usually i stick to the adam / adam of the wood and fred / fred of the wood, also the blue dot is surprisingly good for a sweeter imperial ipa. i have tried another flanders red from them, on tap and with much higer alcohol content than the michael, and remember it being delicious

have fond memories of eclipse as well, but i'd imagine that those vary quite a bit from batch to batch

cheap records + beer sounds like a good idea. sounds like a gotta check out agrarian too

and yes - my webmail works!

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

*i gotta check...

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

ok just tried ilxmailing you so let me know if you get it

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:10 (ten years ago) link

Obligatory Hopslam acquired. Store that had it also had Surly Darkness for $30+ a bottle.

dan m, Monday, 27 January 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

I paid 23 for my bottle of darkness. Have seen it up to $40 lolololol.

Jeff, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link

there's so much hyperbole with imperial stouts, i have no way to contextualize things.. they seem to all range from good to great to excellent to ZOMG THE BEST to NO THIS IS THE BEST etc.

i realize this is impossible to quantify but it seems like across the board people are just really super into bourbon county. is it p much the pliny of imperial stouts or is there some other holier grail out there? i am a big proponent myself, but i've only tried the standard version bcbs and i think there are plenty of similarly excellent beers out there that don't have the same massive following. how would people itt compare bcbs to stuff like darkness or parabola?

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link

Gigantic imperial stout at the same store was $9.99, didn't buy bc Hopslam is so stupidly priced.

dan m, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link

Bcbs is much sweeter than the Darkness or Parabola ime.

dan m, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

all I can say abt the current crop of imp stouts is that I really like some of them and Boneyard's Suge Night in particular stands out to me

this thread makes me realize that I hardly ever buy fancy/limited stuff in bottles, there are just so many things on tap to try

I mean...

BEER NAME STYLE ABV 32oz FILL 64oz Fill
1 Finnriver Black Current Cider Cider 6.5% $8 $16
2 Cascade Bipolar Imperial IPA 7.6% $7 $14
3 The Commons Urban Noir Dark Farmhouse 4.9% $6 $12
4 Black Butte XXV Imperial Porter 11.3% $20 $40
5 Cigar City/De Proef Tropical Tripel Tripel 9.5% na na
6 Tilquin Gueuze Lambic 4.8% na na
7 Oakshire Very Ill Tempered Gnome Strong Ale 9.5% $10 $20
8 Barley Brown’s Forklift (Yes!) Imperial IPA 9% $7 $14
9 Crux Freakcake Oud Bruin (Sour) 10.5% na na
10 Block 15 Prophecies Belgian Dark Strong 9.2% $16 $32
11 Hop Valley Citrus Mistress IPA 6.4% $5 $10
12 Lagunitas Pils Pils Style Lager 6% $5 $10
13 Breakside Framboise Sour 5.5% na na
14 Moylans Hopsickle (Triple Hoppy!) Imperial IPA 9.2% $9 $18
15 Natian CuDA CDA 7.4% $6 $12
16 Breakside Wanderlust IPA 6.6% $6 $12
17 Laurelwood Portland Roast Espresso Stout Stout 6.3% $5 $10
18 Breakside Safe Word Triple IPA 11% na na

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link

Darkness isn't barrel aged, so that's the big difference.

Jeff, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link

BCBS is a bourbon bomb, which is why it appeals to me more than rest. Something like KBS is more balanced, but I just don't need subtly most of the time.

Jeff, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link

CW bbs is good, but is thin and doesn't have the mouthfeel of BCBS. Lacks the viscosity. Parabola is a close second for me.

Jeff, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:45 (ten years ago) link


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