Martin Scorsese's SILENCE, adapted from Shûsaku Endô's novel of monks in 17th-century Japan, starring Liam Neeson, Andrew Garfield, Ken Watanabe, and Adam Driver

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lol eazy

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

yeah, like that sledgehammer Age of Innocence

(he was gonna do Silence a few years ago w/ DDL and Benicio del Toro... has wanted to make it for 20 years a la Last Temptation)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link

Ward F, that Shinoda film doesn't exist unless it's "available"

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link

that shinoda film is "available"

balls, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link

there's a legit region 2 release from the masters of cinema label

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link

just askin', i'd like to see it

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

It's on the Criterion hulu.

yeah, i don't do that

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link

For those that DO, it's there.

eleven months pass...

After nearly 20 years of false starts, Deadline reports that a Martin Scorsese passion project has finally secured its funding. Silence, based on the Shusaku Endo novel about Jesuit missionaries facing persecution in 17th-century Japan, will begin production in Taiwan on January 30. Fábrica de Cine and SharpSword Films have now committed to financing the movie, which is being targeted for a 2016 release by Paramount Pictures. In a statement, Scorsese said, “I’ve wanted to make Silence for almost two decades, and it is finally a reality.”

The last time it took this long for Scorsese to get a project together was Gangs Of New York, which the director tried to make with The Clash in the late ’70s and finally made it to the screen in 2002 with Daniel Day-Lewis and Scorsese’s then-newfound muse Leonardo DiCaprio. Amazingly, DiCaprio won’t appear in Silence, and will be presumably sitting on a jet ski in Ibiza with a model while filming is under way. After going through a Gangs Of New York-style set of permutations over the years, the cast of Silence now includes Liam Neeson, Andrew Garfield, Adam Driver, and Ichi The Killer and Thor actor Tadanobu Asano, replacing Ken Watanabe as, we hope, a guy who keeps shushing everyone.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 23 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

ho damn, Tadanobu Asano

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

wait Joe Strummer was originally going to be in Gangs of NY

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

Silence was originally meant to star Savage Garden

da croupier, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

Thor actor Tadanobu Asano

i grant that "thor" might be the highest-grossing movie asano has been in but that just sounds so weird. dude is an axiom of asian cinema going on 15 years.

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

i wish i could be excited by a new scorsese movie these days, but damn his track record over the past 15 years is bad (i though WOWS and SHUTTER ISLAND were passable, the rest not so much)

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

Shutter Island is so enjoyably terrible, just a clusterfuck from start to finish. Didn't think he had anything as funny and dynamic as WOWS in him, was pleasantly surprised. Nonetheless, the days of me being excited about a new Scorsese movie are long gone.

Οὖτις, Friday, 23 January 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

Am currently finishing the novel and like it. Am going to watch the Shinoda film next and am looking forward to Marty cribbing some Mizoguchi camera moves and Ozu camera placements in his ( you know he's gonna go there!).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 13 September 2015 03:17 (eight years ago) link

can we get mods to replace Ken Watanabe w/ Tadanobu Asano in thread titlr?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 September 2015 09:55 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Weehee! I'm glad Tsukamoto is in this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 January 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

in limited release Dec 23

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/silence-martin-scorsese-1201870272/

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 September 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

garfield and driver look so, so bad

, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

original film is incredible, its a real shame scorsese feels he needs to remake already incredible asian films rather than come up with new ideas. saying that, i'm not sure i want another wolf of wall street. dignified retirement with just maybe documentaries from now on please?

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

this seems up scorsese's alley but who knows how it'll turn out? garfield reminds me of someone in the trailer but i can't place it.

nomar, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

scorsese's batting 1.000 so far w/his religious pics for me tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq7EDnC629s

nomar, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

I don't think this is a remake per se

Number None, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

It looks very different from the other film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

not comfortable w considering adaptations of same src txt as remakes

also p sure this is a batman begins prequel

schlump, Friday, 25 November 2016 05:26 (seven years ago) link

not comfortable w considering adaptations of same src txt as remakes

it's one of my pet hates tbh

Number None, Friday, 25 November 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah, just cuz there was an adap of the novel 45 years ago it seems BS to say there can be no others

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 November 2016 07:27 (seven years ago) link

i read an article by Fr. James Martin (jesuit writer and priest who did heavy consultation on this film) and it made me pretty excited for it.

akm, Friday, 25 November 2016 07:31 (seven years ago) link

garfield givin me the steve zahn vibes

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 November 2016 08:50 (seven years ago) link

Endo is Catholic iirc so this seems like an obv fit for Scorsese, whose Catholicism informs so much of his work imo

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 25 November 2016 12:51 (seven years ago) link

Seems weird now that Adam Driver is playing second fiddle to Andrew Garfield. I guess it was cast like 3 years ago or whatever.

piscesx, Monday, 28 November 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

dang this movie

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 07:53 (seven years ago) link

i think the trailers for this tried to make it look a bit more mel gibson-ish in its religious persecution aspect but it's a very subdued and internal film in a lot of respects, it's quite something. hardly stylized in the usual scorsese sense whatsoever, it's a very "still" film. it moves at an extremely leisurely pace that i found pretty hypnotic but...it's not for everyone, that's for sure.

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

Driver lost 50 lbs for this, it seems, so playing Joey Ramone is not out of the question i guess.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

Scorsese, Japan, interior, still, I'm all over this tbh

woke cop, boo! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:40 (seven years ago) link

Nomar how did u get to see this ?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link

garfield reminds me of someone in the trailer but i can't place it.

Just saw a trailer for this at the movies and he looks like that guy from Horrible Histories, Mathew Baynton, so much so that I wasn't sure it wasn't him for a while. No doubt not the person he reminds you of though.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

... he also looks a bit like Andy Murray, lol.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

i saw it as a guest at a WGA screening last night. i wasn't sure what to expect, maybe something far less austere? it's not flashy, it has nary a single scorsese stylistic tic that i can think of, this is a very serious and adult film about religion. it probably won't succeed for everyone but i think many of the people who didn't like his 'gangs of new york' thru 'wolf of wall street' run might end up being some of its biggest proponents. i could be wrong. i think he's done something really interesting here. the performances are all very good to outstanding and it looks amazing.

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

glad he couldn't squeeze in any Stones tracks

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

so Garfield's OK? I thought he might liack the gravitas.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

i thought garfield was fine, i had only seen him in a couple smaller roles and couldn't get a read on him in those (red riding and social network) but here i think he's gives a good central performance.

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

*he gives

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

this movie doesn't really fuck around, you can really see why Scorsese has wanted to make it and you can see it's incredibly personal (as opposed to say, my wondering why he wanted to make Gangs of New York, even though i did like it.)

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

can we get mods to replace Ken Watanabe w/ Tadanobu Asano in thread title?

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Sunday, September 13, 2015 5:55 AM

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

btw tadanobu asano was exceptionally good

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

i wish that idea came thru more somehow but idk how itd be done

johnny crunch, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

the '71 film is showing at NYC MoMA today and Sunday (albeit in 16mm, which means that's all they could get)

https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/4282?locale=en

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Checked it out of the library to rewatch on this fine holiday weekend.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

rewatched the original recently and have to say Scorsese did an incredible job, and maybe improved upon it. begs the question, when he can make films like this, why does he have to make things like Wolf Of Wall Street?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 24 May 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

so he can follow it up w/ a billion-dollar deNiro-Pacino film

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 May 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

The Shinoda film looks beautiful but is destroyed by one of the worst performances I have ever sat through. Amazingly the guy seems not to have had a role since.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 24 May 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

, why does he have to make things like Wolf Of Wall Street?

the grosses of WOWS and Shutter Island paid for the flop of Silence. I don't see the big deal -- dat's Hollywood, Jack.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Oh and Endō co-wrote the screenplay but did not sanction the ending Shinoda chose

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 24 May 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I wish the novel were longer.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

I was fine with the movie not being longer.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 4 October 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link

the movie was great though

Dan S, Friday, 4 October 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

Yep.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 October 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

i like that the novel is compact tbh, a virtue that more writers should embrace

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 08:30 (four years ago) link

I've not seen this, but every time I see the thread title it reminds me of the Paul Mooney review of The Last Samauri.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 4 October 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

i’ve been thinking about this movie lately

maybe need to see it again

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

My boring opinion is it's my favourite he done

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

It's one of his best

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

final shot is all-time

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 December 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

I'd totally given up on him after hugo and the wolf of shite street, then he directs two career-best movies in a row.

calzino, Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

the Masahira Shinoda version is up there with Marty's too

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

I tried watching this but bailed out halfway through. Somewhat tedious.

o. nate, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Give it another chance.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

I just read the entire thread, it was ten times more enlightening than watching the film.
Scorsese's interest in religious topics is painfully sincere and obvious but I don't think his skill set matches his aims, none of the three religious films he's made work. The final shot in this is warmed-over Tarkovsky.
Stylistically, Scorsese tries to restrain his expressionist tendencies, but what results looks like a particularly slow "serious" European co-production directed by someone like Roland Joffé.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

How does the painful sincerity and obviousness show itself in Silence?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

I’m sure I said this earlier in the thread, but Silence moved me.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

top 5 Scorsese

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 18 December 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

How does the painful sincerity and obviousness show itself in Silence?

Just that it's obvious that he's working over deeply considered beliefs and trying to communicate them, the film wasn't made just to win a bunch of awards or to kill time.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 December 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link


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