Volk guitarists of youtube, an anthology

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMb7CGJq_0Q

ogmor, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

i should go play on the street
being a street performer seems like the only actually kinda dignified and cool way of being a performer anymore

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Tommy Emmanuel definitely seems like guitar magazine fodder. My friend's dad is way into technique/professionalism, so that makes sense. I get a kick out of watching shredders of any stripe, but not much real joy out of listening to them. Still cool to see folks rip though.

Really though Ogmor, thanks a bunch for the Iwan Tanzil recommendation, that sounds amazing and right up my alley. Guitar arrangements of Indonesian music sounds essentially like the exact thing I want to hear right now, so I am going to explore more. Very cool recommendation!

grandavis, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

xp the thought of properly performing is still kind of hideous to me, but playing outside & becoming part of the ambience is a noble tradition: pandit pran nath; that mysterious guy w.c. handy met playing slide guitar at the train station in 1903; kaoru abe; even the guys playing for tourists in seville or w/e seem to be having a great time

ogmor, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

grandavis let me know how it goes w/ tanzil. youtube doesn't have much and all the recordings i've seen are straight western stuff, but it seems like his arrangements are quite popular

ogmor, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I have thought of playing on the street lately a bunch, and picking up an acoustic guitar more than I have in a long time, just because it does seem a little more dignified than still plying my weird electric stuff, but I am lucky that my town has a lingering (though small) audience that comes out for the kind of stuff I want to see and play. I wonder when that well will rund dry, but hopefully it won't. I mean, it helps that I basically only play when asked (I don't chase gigs) and that I get to open for people who make me feel like there is a context for what I am doing.

Also, the street performers in my town are almost universally awful and hokey and I would maybe be more embarrassed to be lumped into that kinda thing than becoming the old guy playing weird electric guitar in real venues. In these times Glenn Jones/Tom Carter/Loren Connors are hugely comforting musicians in that they are all still playing cool shit and are very much older than I am.

grandavis, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

Sure will Ogmor, may not get to it today but it seems like it is definitely worth exploring fully. Just sounds like I need to hear more of it. Like that clip you posted for sure.

grandavis, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if just searching for "Indonesian guitar music/arrangements" would work. Will give it a try.

grandavis, Friday, 7 February 2014 16:39 (ten years ago) link

there's a very inviting indonesian guitar youtube hole out there if you fancy falling down it

sahilin is on the excellent smithsonian indonesian guitars comp, here he is playing guitar accompaniment to a conversation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MALF8O1qVY

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link

there's a lot of this (sumatran?) playing w/ these anguished (?) 10 minute songs, videos have a v distinct style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6bu75y6nrY

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link

completely different, back to the classical guitar arrangements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8JT7MhVhLs

this guy is great, a NY pastor, he's got a fun version of freight train as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKiLzKEGb_0

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link

Uh-oh, the listening pile just got a lot longer. Thanks!

grandavis, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link

oddly while working through this thread i too had the urge to try to find indonesian guitar stuff, by looking up track titles from various compilations to see if there are other versions. i didn't have a huge amount of luck, but down the rabbit hole i did find this guy who perhaps could be doing with a better sound environment but i enjoyed it anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIXTKja4uew

Merdeyeux, Monday, 10 February 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link

nice! what comps were you looking at besides the smithsonian? there must be some sublime frequencies stuff...

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

my first urge was to try to find guitar renditions of the stuff from the original folkways music of indonesia album, especially 'sorban palid' as that is the best music ever but tragically truncated. i found a couple of versions of that piece, neither were especially striking, but i may just continue down that path and see where it takes me anyway.

Merdeyeux, Monday, 10 February 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

There are lots of great videos under the label "early african guitar" -- a label I don't really understand but whatever

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 February 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link

yeah i think the early african guitar videos are from footage taken by austrian gerhard kubik - http://www.afropop.org/wp/8638/africa-and-the-blues-an-interview-with-gerhard-kubik/"> http://www.afropop.org/wp/8638/africa-and-the-blues-an-interview-with-gerhard-kubik/ i posted the mwenda jean bosco one upthread, they're all worth a watch tho

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link

merdeyeux please post yr finds!

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

i will once i get out of this really quite different rabbit hole of indonesian karaoke videos...

Merdeyeux, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

just some bros hanging out in their undies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlcDKKluth8

Merdeyeux, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

(not much going on guitar-wise but i'm into the sape, which i hadn't heard of before)

Merdeyeux, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link

can i post non-guitar street performer tuff to this thread

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 10 February 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link

yeah the sape is apparently from kalimantan/borneo, ppl playing sape stuff on guitar doesn't really work imo but the sape sounds great

i don't think i need to play thread police. there is enough similar non-guitar stuff to fill another thread but anything at all related i'd definitely stick here

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

i just got obsessed with this guy (lots of stuff on youtube of him)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PCckif3P8Q

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 10 February 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

i love it.

ogmor, Monday, 10 February 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

how does he not have an EP on mexican summer yet

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Monday, 10 February 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

really cool thread, thanks much. still making my way through it.

the 4th post, is that guy mongolian?

goole, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

yes, i think so. he is one of my favs.

ogmor, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HizJ-sV9vY

ogmor, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcSVVPahGUI

ogmor, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:38 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um9oPm-L30s

ogmor, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link

there's plenty of oromo stuff on youtube w/ lively comment sections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGcmB_1mI-4

ogmor, Friday, 21 February 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link

koo nimo jamming w/ friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m5W9ep_xZU

ogmor, Friday, 21 February 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link

never heard anything like that big palm-wine guitar trio

ogmor, Friday, 21 February 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link

i didn't find a single decent craviola player on youtube so here's the real deal instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or5JAwYUEYY

cock chirea, Friday, 21 February 2014 02:32 (ten years ago) link

i've never heard of a craviola before. that's gnarly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XML3FpJ_B0

seems to be a lot of percussive buskers in australia, this guy is the best i've seen

ogmor, Friday, 21 February 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXItFXTTf7I&index=38

ogmor, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:36 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHXtKMMEsI

ogmor, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWJAtX-qhZk

ogmor, Saturday, 1 March 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link

this is my new fave ilm thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW-KR3yRNjU

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 1 March 2014 10:10 (ten years ago) link

superb, C18th pieces played on a cittern in an edinburgh study is, as far as i'm concerned, exquisite. those pieces are great, last one especially. cittern's seem a bit undignified to play tho.

ogmor, Saturday, 1 March 2014 10:52 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBH4Di5miKw

ogmor, Monday, 3 March 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpcsuEUnfV8

ogmor, Monday, 3 March 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIZ4zGbD7w0

ogmor, Monday, 3 March 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z9HycjXZUE

ogmor, Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

this is wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUyYqyGqvPk

ogmor, Sunday, 23 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyiT92z4pA

ogmor, Friday, 30 May 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q03JgNBuXsg

ogmor, Friday, 30 May 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSxoRAmOnEQ

too much content

ogmor, Friday, 30 May 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=680703702011305&fref=nf

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 August 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah nvm i have no idea what i'm talking about. hopefully someone can come in who actually knows what the fuck is up

global tetrahedron, Friday, 7 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

glad yr enjoying it! I love how microtones are a part of guitar esp slide playing. Harry Partch made some 'adapted guitars' and john schneider is playing a ten string one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI0nGL8Bkbk

get a load of that fretboard. he's also got a guitar with separate, movable frets for each string to play in whatever tuning you want

nebulous British ilxor (ogmor), Friday, 7 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

friend just pointed me in the direction of this dude -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne-1HmUnjxU
i think he fits in with this thread?

tylerw, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

also let me join the chorus saying this thread is wild

tylerw, Friday, 7 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

I updated the spotify playlist global mentioned upthread btw if anyone's interested. it's an imo quite compelling mixture of andean mountain men, 18th century germans, slack key guitar, muscovite gypsy tunes, zimbabwean ragtime, single-string stomps, brazilian hillbillies etc. that has some affinity with the spirit of this thread in terms of joining the dots of guitar music world-wide.

volk guitar - http://open.spotify.com/user/ogmor/playlist/6YJVAWIuy5Xk2wBtbI4zj3

spotify inevitably has less of the coarse appeal of amateurs/bedroom recordings/street performers etc. and I've been listening to a lot of virtuosic guitarists lately anyway, but the playlist is a mb better way of trying to give a sense of the guitar as an instrument/sound-world/constantly-evolving set of idioms & styles.

also, really like this guy's playing, he has a few videos up but this is gorgeous -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeqnEDF7jU&src_vid=K5IyfLHFIdU

ogmor, Thursday, 11 December 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link

i could derail this thread with dozens of slack key videos but i'll just post one at random

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WD1y679R4c

dude on the right is a living legend and a solid bro

gr8080, Friday, 12 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

all slack key is v pertinent to this thread post away!

ogmor, Saturday, 13 December 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link

the cicadas in the background here are sublime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKoUrbb00

gr8080, Saturday, 13 December 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Ooh nice!

grandavis, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecIBzDU-pM

ogmor, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

fairly sick

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

in tears

never change, australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW9jRrPTrpQ

ogmor, Thursday, 11 August 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y67dkDTLTr0

ogmor, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Guzal Muminova shows off of dutar techniques, riffs through Uzbek trad, wears a leopard print blouse, keeps toddler at bay, and is all around kvlt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jgJKDtdTEA&list=PLiiyeesJx-n1xvn42EIDw5jvjS0giHcoD&t=0s&index=8

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

that's not playing for me but if it's this it's A+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jgJKDtdTEA

ogmor, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

that's amazing
totally showing it to my students!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

Thanks for fixing!

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

As I work my way through the Caspian region, Azeri mugham is postrock, Iranian tradtional is kosmische and the Uzbeks are metal.

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

Iranian traditional is kosmische

iiiiinteresting -- example?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

this would be the most krautish example

https://open.spotify.com/album/1wVWcht0OT9w3ViWjRlW5W?si=-FSNgSWQRN6O5eRxrjQIFw

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

this is one of the only videos i ever put on youtube, met this guy at an open mic night, really cool, kirar music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRv590rF6yw

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

that's rad, the only krar player I've heard before is kassa tessema, who I really like, but this guy's strumming style is really different and I think mb the instrument itself looks smaller

ogmor, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

yeah you can't see it very well, it looked maybe home made? the body looked like the same material as a solid body electric guitar, and he had a humbucker in it

i ended up doing a show w/him (and global i think?) anyway haven't seen him since but yeah his whole set was great, really hypnotic

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link


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